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For ship strength:
need a lot more attack, defense, and hull.
Basic guidelines under rank 100 are about 10x your rank in attack and defense. PvPers in your range probably have what, 15-20x rank in attack and 10-15x rank in defense? You're at 5.9 buffed for attack and 4.15 buffed for defense.... it would take any decent PvPer less than 10 shots to disable your ship

Dark ring thruster (5.833) > microwarp nacelle III (3.778) in terms of defense:deck efficiency.

Auto-evasion node really isn't helping you, since it's only adding what, 37 defense for 10 deck?

Don't need cloak unless you're actively hacking

I though it boosts it for ALL modules


Are you talking about the auto-evasion node?

The description says "increases defense by 25, and also increases total defense by 3% while being attacked by other ships"

WIthout grid console, your defense is 329. The 3% boost while you're under attack brings your defense up to 339, which is only 10 difference. That means the auto-evasion node gives you a total of 35 defense for 10 space. Compare this to the dark ring thruster, which gives you 70 defense for 12 space.... the thruster is almost twice as efficient.

I checked , you're right , is it more useful at higher ranks ?

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I checked , you're right , is it more useful at higher ranks ?


it's more useful as your defense gets higher. At 10k defense, for example, the auto-evasion node provides an additional 325.75 defense for only 10 deck space - that's an efficiency of ~33 defense:deck. It's really not useful when your defense is low.

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I checked , you're right , is it more useful at higher ranks ?


it's more useful as your defense gets higher. At 10k defense, for example, the auto-evasion node provides an additional 325.75 defense for only 10 deck space - that's an efficiency of ~33 defense:deck. It's really not useful when your defense is low.

I'll remove the cloak from my ship , I'm changing to Kongul Fixer after I reach rank 100

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Uninstalled CipherBot
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What about Stryll Confinement Chamber ? Is it useless ?

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get rid of the cloak when you're not hacking, and exchange it for either attack or defense. hull numbers would be nice, too. I guess I should

artifact production needs to go up, to at least 10x your rank Can't happen , never find good artifacts planets , and no one give's me good planets :(

are you going for a small ship build? No I'm not

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If you are stuck in a legion that no body helps you, change legion!
My legion is an artifact legion and because I am a low level, all have helped me out with research planets. I am a level 140 but that is caused i fast leveled for the daily, my research income is 9000 per hour.
My artifact/mining in come are both over 2000+. I get about 60,000+ for the base 5 days a week.
Even if you came and joined our legion, I would even give you planets! Sharing and being a part family is what makes this game fun. If you loose that, then it sucks.

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If you are stuck in a legion that no body helps you, change legion!
My legion is an artifact legion and because I am a low level, all have helped me out with research planets. I am a level 140 but that is caused i fast leveled for the daily, my research income is 9000 per hour.
My artifact/mining in come are both over 2000+. I get about 60,000+ for the base 5 days a week.
Even if you came and joined our legion, I would even give you planets! Sharing and being a part family is what makes this game fun. If you loose that, then it sucks.


O_O That is a generous legion indeed.

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If you are stuck in a legion that no body helps you, change legion!
My legion is an artifact legion and because I am a low level, all have helped me out with research planets. I am a level 140 but that is caused i fast leveled for the daily, my research income is 9000 per hour.
My artifact/mining in come are both over 2000+. I get about 60,000+ for the base 5 days a week.
Even if you came and joined our legion, I would even give you planets! Sharing and being a part family is what makes this game fun. If you loose that, then it sucks.

hello, i'll be playing the part of skeptic today, in this rendition of galaxy legion.
at 140 your looking at owning 36 planets total
cross referencing the planet production formula with my own planetary productions your looking at:
all planets producing ~400 production, which is effectivley 36 Massive x10 planets that are all moderatly - moderatly well defended, with +12 structurse.

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magicmoo wrote:
If you are stuck in a legion that no body helps you, change legion!
My legion is an artifact legion and because I am a low level, all have helped me out with research planets. I am a level 140 but that is caused i fast leveled for the daily, my research income is 9000 per hour.
My artifact/mining in come are both over 2000+. I get about 60,000+ for the base 5 days a week.
Even if you came and joined our legion, I would even give you planets! Sharing and being a part family is what makes this game fun. If you loose that, then it sucks.

hello, i'll be playing the part of skeptic today, in this rendition of galaxy legion.
at 140 your looking at owning 36 planets total
cross referencing the planet production formula with my own planetary productions your looking at:
all planets producing ~400 production, which is effectivley 36 Massive x10 planets that are all moderatly - moderatly well defended, with +12 structurse.



I have a fantastic legion that have helped me have nothing but great planets. I have slowed leveled for a bit and I have only taken great planets. Which means I went with out for a while of course, but I made a family and family help each other out. I have also given out planets that I can't take in return for other planets as well.

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If you are stuck in a legion that no body helps you, change legion!
My legion is an artifact legion and because I am a low level, all have helped me out with research planets. I am a level 140 but that is caused i fast leveled for the daily, my research income is 9000 per hour.
My artifact/mining in come are both over 2000+. I get about 60,000+ for the base 5 days a week.
Even if you came and joined our legion, I would even give you planets! Sharing and being a part family is what makes this game fun. If you loose that, then it sucks.

hello, i'll be playing the part of skeptic today, in this rendition of galaxy legion.
at 140 your looking at owning 36 planets total
cross referencing the planet production formula with my own planetary productions your looking at:
all planets producing ~400 production, which is effectivley 36 Massive x10 planets that are all moderatly - moderatly well defended, with +12 structurse.



As the leader of the legion she is in, I can confirm her production stats. Trust me, we have been VERY generous on the planets she has ;) (Special shout outs to Hallucinations there!)

On top of that, she has spent the GP to get the invincible planets.

Though she is only on +10 production at the moment, so her total income score should go up again rather soon. In return, she sabs planets and generally is an overall friendly legionmate.

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magicmoo wrote:
If you are stuck in a legion that no body helps you, change legion!
My legion is an artifact legion and because I am a low level, all have helped me out with research planets. I am a level 140 but that is caused i fast leveled for the daily, my research income is 9000 per hour.
My artifact/mining in come are both over 2000+. I get about 60,000+ for the base 5 days a week.
Even if you came and joined our legion, I would even give you planets! Sharing and being a part family is what makes this game fun. If you loose that, then it sucks.

hello, i'll be playing the part of skeptic today, in this rendition of galaxy legion.
at 140 your looking at owning 36 planets total
cross referencing the planet production formula with my own planetary productions your looking at:
all planets producing ~400 production, which is effectivley 36 Massive x10 planets that are all moderatly - moderatly well defended, with +12 structurse.



I have a fantastic legion that have helped me have nothing but great planets. I have slowed leveled for a bit and I have only taken great planets. Which means I went with out for a while of course, but I made a family and family help each other out. I have also given out planets that I can't take in return for other planets as well.


And I am also a legion mate of her's and i am currently letting her borrow my project planet. I can confirm that she is telling the truth.


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Uninstalled CipherBot
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Installed 2 DRT

What about Stryll Confinement Chamber ? Is it useless ?

Yes. There are so many higher ratio hull mods than the Confinement Chamber that the chamber is near last on a long list.

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If you are stuck in a legion that no body helps you, change legion!
My legion is an artifact legion and because I am a low level, all have helped me out with research planets. I am a level 140 but that is caused i fast leveled for the daily, my research income is 9000 per hour.
My artifact/mining in come are both over 2000+. I get about 60,000+ for the base 5 days a week.
Even if you came and joined our legion, I would even give you planets! Sharing and being a part family is what makes this game fun. If you loose that, then it sucks.
Not bad, but I would recommend to stop getting RP planets. I stopped a long time ago and I've got 9,400 RP/h; more than half of that is already scientists, and I'm not even a high rank (and just barely what may classify as a mid-rank). I still get anything I need researched done in a timely manner (except that base tier, but it's just long). If you haven't already, I would recommend swapping your mission planets to AP-focused.

In addition, I don't blame Elerian for being suspicious; it's not often a top-10 legion will bring in someone low ranked, even if it does provide them an opportunity to bring up a monster of a ship that's ferociously loyal to the legion.

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magicmoo wrote:
If you are stuck in a legion that no body helps you, change legion!
My legion is an artifact legion and because I am a low level, all have helped me out with research planets. I am a level 140 but that is caused i fast leveled for the daily, my research income is 9000 per hour.
My artifact/mining in come are both over 2000+. I get about 60,000+ for the base 5 days a week.
Even if you came and joined our legion, I would even give you planets! Sharing and being a part family is what makes this game fun. If you loose that, then it sucks.
Not bad, but I would recommend to stop getting RP planets. I stopped a long time ago and I've got 9,400 RP/h; more than half of that is already scientists, and I'm not even a high rank (and just barely what may classify as a mid-rank). I still get anything I need researched done in a timely manner (except that base tier, but it's just long). If you haven't already, I would recommend swapping your mission planets to AP-focused.

In addition, I don't blame Elerian for being suspicious; it's not often a top-10 legion will bring in someone low ranked, even if it does provide them an opportunity to bring up a monster of a ship that's ferociously loyal to the legion.[/quote]


I only have one planet that I bought.

I don't blame him, but a good legion like Infinity, likes to even help the little players. I also give out tones, and do my fair share with everything as well.

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I only have one planet that I bought.

I don't blame him, but a good legion like Infinity, likes to even help the little players. I also give out tones, and do my fair share with everything as well.

Let me rephrase that, he had no way of knowing you are in Lords of Infinity. Due to the fact that top 10 legions (and many more at lower ranks in the leaderboards) tend not to accept low rankers, he had no reason to suspect you are in a top 10 legion either. Knowing that you are in one does, of course, explains your research levels and production values.

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I only have one planet that I bought.

I don't blame him, but a good legion like Infinity, likes to even help the little players. I also give out tones, and do my fair share with everything as well.

Let me rephrase that, he had no way of knowing you are in Lords of Infinity. Due to the fact that top 10 legions (and many more at lower ranks in the leaderboards) tend not to accept low rankers, he had no reason to suspect you are in a top 10 legion either. Knowing that you are in one does, of course, explains your research levels and production values.



I don't understand, I not complaining about that at all. What I am trying to state that there are other places he can go to get better help. Like one of out sister legions (which I give out great planets ) or another that helps him better. He said no one gives out planets.

My friends were just stating that it is correct number. I don't care about that. I just want this person to enjoy the game, I just want him to know other legions do give out good planets. I wasn't bragging about my income, i was stating that people can help even when your low.

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A lot of legions that are like that (such as Infinity's sister legions) tend to fill up quickly or, once they reach a certain point, begin to only start accepting higher ranks. In addition, the main legion (in this case Lords) will have many more high ranks than the sister legions typically. Said high ranks have less of a need for RP/MP and are able to give away better planets of those types, in addition to good artifact planets.

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I only have one planet that I bought.

I don't blame him, but a good legion like Infinity, likes to even help the little players. I also give out tones, and do my fair share with everything as well.



Ooh, it all makes sense now haha. I think we talked earlier on another thread where you also mentioned your crazy good ship and productions. Good luck and have fun ^_^

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