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Author:  Billik [ Fri May 11, 2012 4:32 pm ]
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Once I finish Neutronium, what should I start working on?

Author:  thunderbolta [ Fri May 11, 2012 4:37 pm ]
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Rank?

Author:  Billik [ Fri May 11, 2012 4:39 pm ]
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135

Author:  elerian [ Fri May 11, 2012 4:48 pm ]
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Start with finishing the tech that you started.

Author:  Shortwave737 [ Fri May 11, 2012 4:50 pm ]
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Am I the only one who noticed the decimal point on that research? That seems a bit strange to me.

Author:  Nova149 [ Fri May 11, 2012 4:50 pm ]
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FInish Hull then go:
Energy or Defence

What's your research production and how many decks do you have?

Author:  Billik [ Fri May 11, 2012 4:52 pm ]
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Nova149 wrote:
FInish Hull then go:
Energy or Defence

What's your research production and how many decks do you have?


1859/hour
615 decks

Author:  Rarek [ Fri May 11, 2012 4:52 pm ]
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Phase Shifting. For sure.

Author:  strm avenger [ Fri May 11, 2012 4:55 pm ]
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Okay...

Antimatter Streams should be at 3/3.
Neutronium Plating should be finished to 3/3.
Phase Shifting should have already have been done. Also, Quantum Overlays.
As, oddly, should have Singularity Cores. I'd have expected that higher with your other techs.
X-Manifolds should also already been done. It'll let you keep your resources up.

All of that completed, +10s or if your feeling ambitious, +12s. Trust me, I've been doing +12 before Null Rays, Trans-Temporals, any of that tier with the exception of Fermionics. It'll set you a bit behind for a bit, then it'll pay off in huge amounts.

Author:  Nova149 [ Fri May 11, 2012 4:55 pm ]
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Rarek wrote:
Phase Shifting. For sure.


But his got no decks, a phase shift engine takes up like 60 decks

Most of his decks are used up by weapons and hull

Author:  Nova149 [ Fri May 11, 2012 4:58 pm ]
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Since his got limited space, i say sensors and stellar engineering, researching more ship hardware would only intensify the problem.

Just research stuff that doesn't take up decks

Author:  Billik [ Fri May 11, 2012 5:00 pm ]
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Nova149 wrote:
Rarek wrote:
Phase Shifting. For sure.


But his got no decks, a phase shift engine takes up like 60 decks

Most of his decks are used up by weapons and hull


^^^^^^ I only have defense from BM50's, NPC drops and the mass of helmsmen I get every day. Don't have much space for defensive modules as of yet.

Author:  strm avenger [ Fri May 11, 2012 5:03 pm ]
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For _ sake, BM CONVOYS ARE NOT A GOOD SOURCE OF DEFENCE! Energy Nullifiers. Seriously, they are cheap to upkeep, soft to research and BETTER THAN BM CONVOYS. It's a real pet-hate of mine people using them as pure defence. If you maxed on standard? Yeah. Base combat frequently? Sure. Standard defence? NO!

Author:  Nova149 [ Fri May 11, 2012 5:03 pm ]
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ANd dark ring thrusters :L

Author:  Nova149 [ Fri May 11, 2012 5:05 pm ]
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strm avenger wrote:
For _ sake, BM CONVOYS ARE NOT A GOOD SOURCE OF DEFENCE! Energy Nullifiers. Seriously, they are cheap to upkeep, soft to research and BETTER THAN BM CONVOYS. It's a real pet-hate of mine people using them as pure defence. If you maxed on standard? Yeah. Base combat frequently? Sure. Standard defence? NO!


Calm down . Calm Down .

He has only 600 decks, energy nullifiers take up 90 decks. Upkeep is not the problem.
i got 1100 decks at rank 150 and i only have 1 standard def mod Overlay engine M3, and 3 Bm50s and 4 Dark ring thrusters

Author:  Billik [ Fri May 11, 2012 5:06 pm ]
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Nova149 wrote:
ANd dark ring thrusters :L


All said and done, 725 defense as of right now

2 bm50's and 4 dark rings

Author:  strm avenger [ Fri May 11, 2012 5:11 pm ]
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Dark Ring Thrusters are great. No problem with them. BM Convoys? 5:1. Dark Rings? 5.833... Energy Nullifiers? 5.3076923076923076923076923076923. If you go just a little further to TT Mk1, 5.5609756097560975609756097560976. Alot better.

I am calm, I just pretend to rage to get the point accross. And it is a pet hate of mine.

Energy Nullifers are at 78 decks - not 90.

615 decks... gimme 10 minutes, and I'll draw summit up.

Author:  Nova149 [ Fri May 11, 2012 5:23 pm ]
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the Bm50s are 1:5 , you have to pay like 300,000 research points to research defence and the tier prior to it to obtain a very large defence module and a 0.3 extra defence per deck. The 300K RP can be better invested somewhere else, have dominion cannons as main weapons at early rank, bm50 as main def at early rank and research hull.

Acquiring a bm50 only requires you to shoot down some level 3 bases and install, individually they are small, can be installed incremementally and doesn't need a player to free up 78 decks, instead the player only needs 20 decks to install one bm50 shuttle.

Energy Nullifiers isn't "soft" to research either. i get 2700 research an hour and it would still take around one and half weeks to research.

Author:  strm avenger [ Fri May 11, 2012 5:31 pm ]
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Little over 1 week IS soft. The research I am doing right now is 1 month PER TIER. ;)

Author:  strm avenger [ Fri May 11, 2012 5:44 pm ]
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Okay, okay. Honestly, I give up. Your ship is so small there there is just nothing I can do with it. Seriously. You need some serious decks... Lowest I could get was 641, assuming you want your cores. If not (like I would) That'd be an extra 2 cannons.

Modules in [] you may not have. Others I have assumed you do have.
Hull
Deep Core Neutronium x5 - 175 decks
Vortul Plating x2 - 20 decks
[Protean Armories x3 - 24 decks]
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195 (219)

Weapons
Heavy Antiproton Cannon 3 - 126 decks
Vortul Blast Phaser x4 - 48 decks
[Dominion Cannon Mk 3 x4 - 68 decks]
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164 (242)
369 (461)

Energy
Singularity Core Mk 4 x3 - 87 decks
Drannik Core x4 - 40 decks
Relay x4 - 20 decks
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147 (0)
516 (608)

Defences
Dark Ring Thruster x4 - 48 decks
Energy Nullifier x1 - 78 decks
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126 (0)
641 (734)

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