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Author:  masterlynch4 [ Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Highest possible passives

Im trying to go for the highest possible passive stats on a plamsa/gas world what order would i use what artifacts in to get the best/ highest passive stats I know i should probably start with gas rods till 1k attack but as far as cloaking defense goes im not sure.

Author:  ODragon [ Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Highest possible passives

Cloak is always the same:

28 Interspacial Fold Generator
3 Magnetosphere Charger

Max Passive Cloak: 3892

I'm not sure anyone ever cared to figure out attack/defense.

Author:  varunjitsingh146 [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Highest possible passives

ODragon wrote:
Cloak is always the same:

28 Interspacial Fold Generator
3 Magnetosphere Charger

Max Passive Cloak: 3892

I'm not sure anyone ever cared to figure out attack/defense.

is there even a limit for attack? can't you just keep stacking NPC artis non stop?

Author:  stuffybeary [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:34 am ]
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somehat related question... how to achieve maximum passive cloak on an icy/oceanic?

Author:  masterlynch4 [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:01 am ]
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stuffybeary wrote:
somehat related question... how to achieve maximum passive cloak on an icy/oceanic?

use 28 Interspacial Fold Generator then 3 Magnetosphere Charger i believe. according to dragon.
varunjitsingh146 wrote:
ODragon wrote:
Cloak is always the same:

28 Interspacial Fold Generator
3 Magnetosphere Charger

Max Passive Cloak: 3892

I'm not sure anyone ever cared to figure out attack/defense.

is there even a limit for attack? can't you just keep stacking NPC artis non stop?

no there is a limit on every npc artifact example gas rods wont go any higher then 1000 passive attack same thing with eruption channelers. Im trying to find out whats the max passive for all of them and how to obtain them i know that its around 3500 for attack and def but since im making a plasma ill be able to add 300 defense plus whatever is the max passive.

Author:  Wolfy Minion [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:21 am ]
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3892 is max for defense and cloak defense is a bit more difficult to do since you need to 9 Gravitic Amplifiers + 12 Magnetosphere Chargers.

Attack is 3893 using 18 conductive pillars + 6 Magnetosphere Chargers.


But honestly the Magnetosphere Chargers are best just used on cloak and let the passive defense cap at 2100,passive attack at 3080 for most planets and 6050 for dysons/metallics.

Author:  masterlynch4 [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:47 am ]
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so this is what i have go so far is all this correct?
in order to get max passive:
cloaking use 28 Interspacial Fold Generator then 3 Magnetosphere Chargers 3892
defense use 9 Gravitic Amplifiers then 12 Magnetosphere Chargers. 3892
Attack use 20 gas rods then 8 conductive pillars then 5 Magnetosphere Chargers. 3893
is all that correct or did i miss something? also since i am using this on a gas planet then turning it into a plasma planet does that mean that the max passive defense for it would then be 4192 since it increases 300 defense during transformation.

Author:  Wolfy Minion [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:51 am ]
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yes all that is correct, demons also get +800 attack , sentient get 700 att/def

Edit: the attack is wrong actually. I said 18 pillars = 1980 attack + 5 chargers, your method is 1000+880=1880 +5 chargers

Author:  Darth Flagitious [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:54 am ]
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Something like that. Let me say this though... Using Dark Badges to buy Magnetosphere Chargers to use for passive attack or defense is kind of a waste. Just pump the cloak to around 21k which is easily done with passives and repeatable artifacts. No one can steal something they can't find.

Author:  masterlynch4 [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:27 am ]
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Littlefluffy wrote:
yes all that is correct, demons also get +800 attack , sentient get 700 att/def

Edit: the attack is wrong actually. I said 18 pillars = 1980 attack + 5 chargers, your method is 1000+880=1880 +5 chargers

so best would probably be 20 gas rods and 9 pillars right?
Darth Flagitious wrote:
Something like that. Let me say this though... Using Dark Badges to buy Magnetosphere Chargers to use for passive attack or defense is kind of a waste. Just pump the cloak to around 21k which is easily done with passives and repeatable artifacts. No one can steal something they can't find.

I know this is going to be my first "project" planet and i wanna try and make it the best that i can. Thats why i wanna have Max passive attack defense and cloak.

Author:  Wolfy Minion [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:33 am ]
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masterlynch4 wrote:
Littlefluffy wrote:
yes all that is correct, demons also get +800 attack , sentient get 700 att/def

Edit: the attack is wrong actually. I said 18 pillars = 1980 attack + 5 chargers, your method is 1000+880=1880 +5 chargers

so best would probably be 20 gas rods and 9 pillars right?

I miscounted needs 6 chargers

no that would go over 3500 on the 5th charger which would drop the attack to 3510

Author:  masterlynch4 [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:39 am ]
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Littlefluffy wrote:
masterlynch4 wrote:
Littlefluffy wrote:
yes all that is correct, demons also get +800 attack , sentient get 700 att/def

Edit: the attack is wrong actually. I said 18 pillars = 1980 attack + 5 chargers, your method is 1000+880=1880 +5 chargers

so best would probably be 20 gas rods and 9 pillars right?

I miscounted needs 6 chargers

no that would go over 3500 on the 5th charger which would drop the attack to 3510

so 20 gas rods 8 pillars and 6 chargers?

Author:  Wolfy Minion [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:48 am ]
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masterlynch4 wrote:
littlefluffy wrote:
no that would go over 3500 on the 5th charger which would drop the attack to 3510

so 20 gas rods 8 pillars and 6 chargers?


I take it by the fact you keep asking about the igniters you already placed them. You can get max with 5 pillars and 7 chargers.

Author:  masterlynch4 [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:50 am ]
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no i just already have a lot of gas ignitor rods vs being rank 179 and having 0 pillars

Author:  Tree7304 [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:54 am ]
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cloak
25 Interspacial Fold Generator + 4 Magnetosphere Charger = 3892 passive cloak
28 Interspacial Fold Generator + 3 Magnetosphere Charger = 3892 passive cloak

defense *plasma after upgrading the passives to get the extra 300 defense
21 Gravitic Amplifier + 5 Magnetosphere Charger + Plasma arti = 3987 passive cloak

attack
20 Gas Igniter Rod + 19 Conductive Pillar + 2 Magnetosphere Charger = 3844
18 Gas Igniter Rod + 20 Conductive Pillar + 2 Magnetosphere Charger = 3856

These are the ideal/efficient ways that I used when giving a few planets to low ranks not able to properly defend planets.

There are of course ways to get slightly larger amounts of each passive but the cost in Magnetosphere Chargers is absurd and you probably don't wanna do that.
If you do though, I can figure out the absolute max of each passive

Author:  masterlynch4 [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:25 pm ]
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Tree7304 wrote:
cloak
25 Interspacial Fold Generator + 4 Magnetosphere Charger = 3892 passive cloak
28 Interspacial Fold Generator + 3 Magnetosphere Charger = 3892 passive cloak

defense *plasma after upgrading the passives to get the extra 300 defense
21 Gravitic Amplifier + 5 Magnetosphere Charger + Plasma arti = 3987 passive cloak

attack
20 Gas Igniter Rod + 19 Conductive Pillar + 2 Magnetosphere Charger = 3844
18 Gas Igniter Rod + 20 Conductive Pillar + 2 Magnetosphere Charger = 3856

These are the ideal/efficient ways that I used when giving a few planets to low ranks not able to properly defend planets.

There are of course ways to get slightly larger amounts of each passive but the cost in Magnetosphere Chargers is absurd and you probably don't wanna do that.
If you do though, I can figure out the absolute max of each passive

Thanks that really helped make it clearer do you know what rank the npc for pillars i know the npcs rank is 500 so is that what rank i can see them at? if so i think im going to wait on maxing passive attack max passive cloak and 20 gas rods should be fine until i can see the pillar npcs.

Author:  Tree7304 [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:46 pm ]
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masterlynch4 wrote:
Thanks that really helped make it clearer do you know what rank the npc for pillars i know the npcs rank is 500 so is that what rank i can see them at? if so i think im going to wait on maxing passive attack max passive cloak and 20 gas rods should be fine until i can see the pillar npcs.

I think at 350.

Author:  masterlynch4 [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:56 pm ]
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yup in that case ill probably do attack last. I am in the process now of getting all the artifacts. I wanna try and use and put all the passives on at once. so someone doesn't scan it when i have near max passives or near being not scannable.

Author:  stuffybeary [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Highest possible passives

no there is a limit on every npc artifact example gas rods wont go any higher then 1000 passive attack same thing with eruption channelers. Im trying to find out whats the max passive for all of them and how to obtain them i know that its around 3500 for attack and def but since im making a plasma ill be able to add 300 defense plus whatever is the max passive.[/quote]
I was able to get 1050 attack from eruption channelers although it was probably a glitch and now it's stopped

Author:  masterlynch4 [ Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:59 pm ]
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It might be natural i don't know. I've seen a couple 1850 demons but its uncommon i guess im not sure on that.

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