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I have began freeze ranking (I'm a pvper) I hack a lot for blues I'm rank 11 where should I spend my rank points if I have 10 points out of the 10what to spend on eg 4tac officers 2helmsme 4enginers-10points also would like tips pointers and how I'm suppose to know when to stop freeze ranking thanks :D

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Don't Freeze rank! There is no benefits in freeze ranking at such a low level.

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Haahhhhaaaa you are so funny haahaa do you really think start slow ranking is useless sorry what is you combat rep laughable mine isn't :lol:

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Haahhhhaaaa you are so funny haahaa do you really think start slow ranking is useless sorry what is you combat rep laughable mine isn't :lol:

he's from the Sith they all have good combat reps

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Player 1 ranks normally. They take lots of planets, and become very powerful.

Player 2 freeze ranks at the pathetic little rank of 11, and grows much slower. After about 1 month, player 1 comes along and beats player 2 into the ground.

Freeze-ranking works... except when your at such a low rank. Plus, I wouldn't start on the Sith Lords. They are one of the best PvP legions in the game.

PS Combat rep is worthless. Enjoy :lol:

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I'm rank 11 I have 80+blue badges and 22+reds slow freeze rank does this easily and the more time you do this the better attack defense energy and deck cargo you have with slow ranking so I'm doing well this is how I play if you have something to contribute than talk if you don't mind your own buisnes

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I'm rank 11 I have 80+blue badges and 22+reds slow freeze rank does this easily and the more time you do this the better attack defense energy and deck cargo you have with slow ranking so I'm doing well this is how I play if you have something to contribute than talk if you don't mind your own buisnes


I'm rank 1476, been playing 476 days, and i can get 22 reds badges in 22 minutes. I am also up to 2200 kills which is an insane reputation. Sidenote, i could be at 2200 kills and 2200 deaths, it still wouldn't mean #&$# as to how strong my ship is. If anything a good counter-kill ratio could just mean that you spend alot of time guarding great planets you've stolen, or you've spent a great deal of time guarding exotica.


I don't slow/freeze rank, i just NPC alot. This gets me good planets and it works well.


You tell me, in 476 days time, what will your rank be & will you have 10k+ engineers/tacs? The answer is no, because you will still be stuck at just 500-1000 artifacts per hour.


Freeze ranking to me, just seems like a way to play the game, whilst not actually playing it if you get my meaning. A person that freeze ranks, barely does anything in the game other than hack and raid already disabled players, good things to do at low ranks yes, but something that is just as easy to do at higher ranks and is more fruitful too.


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I honestly could not care less about your ship and artifact bases help a lot so look above your post it says if you have to contribute something than post

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I honestly could not care less about your ship and artifact bases help a lot so look above your post it says if you have to contribute something than post


Ok, to your OP - No freeze ranker puts rank points into engineers, because that defeats the bloody point of you trying to freeze rank.

If it is your insistence to freeze rank then you should put rank points into tac officers/helmsman at a rate of 4:1 for every 5 rank points.

You should know though, just being in a legion with an artifact base will not make your ship strong for your rank. There are entire legions out there that now use that system so there will be alot of competition for that playstyle. The difference will be your individual artifact production.

As to when to stop freeze ranking. Well the answer is simple, you stop when you get bored of playing the game in that style. Whether at that time your able to adapt to a new style depends on how well you will have built your ship to that point.


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Thanks for helping ill remember that when I get prisoners :D

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Haahhhhaaaa you are so funny haahaa do you really think start slow ranking is useless sorry what is you combat rep laughable mine isn't :lol:

I have an insane reputation and I'm in WDE. I never said freeze ranking is useless i just said it's stupid at your level get past rank 100 then slow rank if that's your style.Are you an SSB? If so follow kirkeastments advice if your not for every 5 rank points put in 1Deck,1Helmsman and 3tactical Officers.

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I honestly could not care less about your ship and artifact bases help a lot so look above your post it says if you have to contribute something than post

thing is they have a point freeze ranking won't accomplish anything unless you have a good artifact production. its best to wait until at least rank 100 or until you get at least 2k per hour.

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So... I've tried freeze/slow ranking three times now... I don't even make it into the 2nd day. S*%$ is BORING. IMO it ruins the early game where you can PvP, Base, Npc, such and such (The fun things). On mid-late game though, that's when it's the perfect time to slow/freeze rank due to having a poor late game content (Dan :roll: ). I pace myself normally, and I can say that I have an above avg ship than the other slow/ranking ranking ships not one full slow/freeze rank pace.

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1)Get at least 3-5k artifact production before you even consider freeze ranking.
2)Don't bother putting rank points into engineers while freeze ranking, that defeats the whole purpose. Put rank points into tactical officers, or decks.
3)Kills-Death ratio means nothing at all, and is by no means a measure of strength.
4)Slow ranking and freeze ranking are two separate things, in slow ranking, you slow down experience gain, while in freeze ranking, you stop it altogether.
5)You may want to consider getting a jump start with a RP base.

Please note that slow or freeze ranking does, in fact, make you stronger, but only to those around you, and slightly above you. A player that starts at the same time you do and ranks normally, as Blucifer noted, will get further and more powerful than you most likely will, thanks to not having the planet capacity holding down his/her production (mainly AP), and therefore, his/her growth. Whenever you feel like it's right, if you still do make the choice to freeze rank (I strongly suggest otherwise), take off. Go with your gut, if you feel confident enough to start pounding away at others, do it. Go with the flow at that point, make goals, don't get sidetracked, you should get where you're trying to go. Think long-term, not short-term.


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So... I've tried freeze/slow ranking three times now... I don't even make it into the 2nd day. S*%$ is BORING. IMO it ruins the early game where you can PvP, Base, Npc, such and such (The fun things). On mid-late game though, that's when it's the perfect time to slow/freeze rank due to having a poor late game content (Dan :roll: ). I pace myself normally, and I can say that I have an above avg ship than the other slow/ranking ranking ships not one full slow/freeze rank pace.

Heh. I tried freeze ranking myself, since I was out of the country and did not have the time to do much else than collect shipments, and dump resources. With a month out of the country, I had +8s done, planetary shields finished, and plenty of other stuff that would keep me ahead. This has allowed me to stay ahead of the game in my recent rank ups from PvPing, but might have been counter-productive, considering what else I could have done during that same amount of time. I most certainly could not out last more than two weeks of the type of boredom (since I tried it for an extra week after my return).


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Thanks for helping ill remember that when I get prisoners :D

I freeze ranked (or was near it) for about a month around rank 30. Overall, I wish I had ranked up more and spent those 30 days with my current productions, as my tech had already been above par. Don't do it at rank 11 unless it's only going to be for a few days and you are in a research legion that would allow you to obtain greater tech than those around you. I would recommend freezing at rank 50 at least, but higher is better. Slow rank, yes, if you want, but not freeze.

If you do honestly want to freeze, do decks and tactical officers. You can get by with a SSB, but as a "normal" sized ship I can go blow for blow with a fair few of the SSBs around my rank and come out about even. Not being a SSB also allows you to scan more planets more easily, allowing for a higher AP/h to allow you more prisoners, shipbots, brackets, etc.

I would personally put rank points into decks until approximately 1200-1500 decks, obtain 200 engineers, then put all rank points into Tactical Officers.

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My advice:
Do not rank freeze yet. Get up to 100 then freeze for only a short while. Once you're rank 200 or so, 4k AP/hr then freeze for as long as you like.

Lastly, Ancient Untouchables is a legion dedicated to slow/freeze ranking. You may want to enquire with them about joining. The Sith Lords would be another option. I believe both legions have rank limits though, so I re-iterate: GET YOUR RANK UP FIRST!

As for me, I have an insane rep, and can often manage 50 kills in a single day. I can hack more often due to the TMs I get from my artifact production, which is probably literally 50x yours at a conservative guess.

As a final piece of advice, I'd go 5 TOs, and allow shipbots to carry you. If you're in a good artifact base, you may not have much issues. If you're in an RP base, go 1 deck, 4 TOs.

Very early the SSB rules. Quickly bail out though, and go full on decks by rank 50.

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ok i see your points now i wont freeze thanks for helping me much appreciated :D

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look there.. everyone contemplates freeze ranking at some point. but heres the deal, you NEED arti production to make it work.
you simply have NONE at your rank. i dont care if youve got 6 dysons maxed out, your production isnt going to matter no matter what at your rank.

you gain stronger by gaining LOTS of prisoners. not gaining one or two or even three on a lucky day from the base artifact output.
im gaining 3-5 every pull as well as over 150 hull a day, ~50 research, ~50 def as well as ~100 attack. EVERY DAY.. my arti income is 22K/hr, and base output is ~60K... guess how much i care for base output now... not one bit. its a minor bonus.

if you want to freeze to get all the badge modules, by all means, its super easy at your rank, PUMP ENERGY (dont listen to other people) you need energy to disable people. no point playing if you can only disable one person each time you log on.
also increase tac officers. and helmsmen. a little bit of cargo doesnt hurt, but those are just lost points, you should wait for a few MSPs from your base output.

im rank 567, and had nearly this arti production for 100 ranks. so its not hard to do. only ~3.5K of it is from $$ bought planets (exotic and dyson), which are worth it.

Also like everyone else wrote. combat rep means squat. its all how you build your ship.
dont attack players whose actions are 3/5/5, they probably have a halc trap on.

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