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Joseph wrote:

actualy that's pretty decent you just need some more defense if your moving out of the SSB, and you may need some mining soon you can't have people giving you money for upkeep forever but right now it's easy.

RigorMortis wrote:

At rank 23 defense isn't a big deal, focus on hull and attack. Maybe grab the Trinity-Core Drives if you have some GP.

RigorMortis wrote:

At rank 23 defense isn't a big deal, focus on hull and attack. Maybe grab the Trinity-Core Drives if you have some GP.

Pichu wrote:

bobdebouwer wrote:

dominion cannons + 1 protean armory = 24 space
fill with researched hull or some energy.

Stick to decks = rank + 19 and in the medium term you will outclass guys that are in bigger legions.

Dont worry about research too much and try to get yourself into a lvl 5/6 artifact base if you can. Just pvp and raid like mad to get your last 2 proteans.

I went SSB(Small Ship Build)but then i realized its a waste of time.

KJReed wrote:

What's your reasoning for it being a waste of time?

Pichu wrote:

KJReed wrote:

What's your reasoning for it being a waste of time?

Well because the limited scan and energy capabilities you can do with it.
I like npcs more then pvp due to the drops at high ranks like to troop carriers. You benefit more from that then pvp, after you get the pvp mods

Epicownage wrote:

Pichu wrote:

KJReed wrote:

What's your reasoning for it being a waste of time?

Without turning this thread into one huge slow vs fast ranking debate, you don't necessarily benefit more from NPCing.

bobdebouwer wrote:

Epicownage wrote:

Without turning this thread into one huge slow vs fast ranking debate, you don't necessarily benefit more from NPCing.

Eh?

Epicownage wrote:

bobdebouwer wrote:

Epicownage wrote:

Without turning this thread into one huge slow vs fast ranking debate, you don't necessarily benefit more from NPCing.

Eh?

It's all about relative strength.

Author:	Pichu [ Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:39 pm ]
Post subject:	Need advice how to improve rank 23 ship
112 Energy 715 Hull 25 Shield Size Class: Light Frigate Space: 50 / 52 Attack: 259 Defense: 14 I went SSB(Small Ship Build)but then i realized its a waste of time. Im wondering if its worth resetting and starting again? Artifacts 332 points / hour Production: 330 research / hour I know they are rubbish but i will be researching +5s and shields soon that wil help slightly. Im currently in SA2 getting research to do so

Author:	Joseph [ Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:45 pm ]
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actualy that's pretty decent you just need some more defense if your moving out of the SSB, and you may need some mining soon you can't have people giving you money for upkeep forever but right now it's easy.

Author:	Pichu [ Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:46 pm ]
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Joseph wrote: actualy that's pretty decent you just need some more defense if your moving out of the SSB, and you may need some mining soon you can't have people giving you money for upkeep forever but right now it's easy. That is ok i have a couple thousand ctp on me

Author:	RigorMortis [ Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:42 pm ]
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At rank 23 defense isn't a big deal, focus on hull and attack. Maybe grab the Trinity-Core Drives if you have some GP.

Author:	KJReed [ Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:50 pm ]
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RigorMortis wrote: At rank 23 defense isn't a big deal, focus on hull and attack. Maybe grab the Trinity-Core Drives if you have some GP. Agreed. Over of the big benefits of the ssb is you dont need def. And ssb isn't a waste of time. Just a pain that's worth it long run. Wil say should buy fathers before trinities.

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Author:	Pichu [ Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:22 pm ]
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RigorMortis wrote: At rank 23 defense isn't a big deal, focus on hull and attack. Maybe grab the Trinity-Core Drives if you have some GP. I have 1 dominion cannon and one other in cargo need space for it im close to my first protean armory, they will help . I rarely can get gp maybe a few months or on my birthday i can get a bit of gp for those and fathers

Author:	bobdebouwer [ Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:38 pm ]
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2 dominion cannons + 1 protean armory = 24 space fill with researched hull or some energy. Stick to decks = rank + 19 and in the medium term you will outclass guys that are in bigger legions. Dont worry about research too much and try to get yourself into a lvl 5/6 artifact base if you can. Just pvp and raid like mad to get your last 2 proteans.

Author:	Pichu [ Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:40 pm ]
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Pichu wrote: bobdebouwer wrote: dominion cannons + 1 protean armory = 24 space fill with researched hull or some energy. Stick to decks = rank + 19 and in the medium term you will outclass guys that are in bigger legions. Dont worry about research too much and try to get yourself into a lvl 5/6 artifact base if you can. Just pvp and raid like mad to get your last 2 proteans. I went SSB(Small Ship Build)but then i realized its a waste of time.

Author:	KJReed [ Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:45 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Need advice how to improve rank 23 ship
What's your reasoning for it being a waste of time?

Author:	Pichu [ Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:49 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Need advice how to improve rank 23 ship
KJReed wrote: What's your reasoning for it being a waste of time? Well because the limited scan and energy capabilities you can do with it. I like npcs more then pvp due to the drops at high ranks like to troop carriers. You benefit more from that then pvp, after you get the pvp mods

Author:	bobdebouwer [ Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:09 pm ]
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If you plan properly, at around rank 100 you can move away from an SSB into a real fighting machine.

Author:	Epicownage [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:14 am ]
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Pichu wrote: KJReed wrote: What's your reasoning for it being a waste of time? Well because the limited scan and energy capabilities you can do with it. I like npcs more then pvp due to the drops at high ranks like to troop carriers. You benefit more from that then pvp, after you get the pvp mods Without turning this thread into one huge slow vs fast ranking debate, you don't necessarily benefit more from NPCing.

Author:	Devastation [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:59 am ]
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Author:	bobdebouwer [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:51 pm ]
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Epicownage wrote: Pichu wrote: KJReed wrote: What's your reasoning for it being a waste of time? Well because the limited scan and energy capabilities you can do with it. I like npcs more then pvp due to the drops at high ranks like to troop carriers. You benefit more from that then pvp, after you get the pvp mods Without turning this thread into one huge slow vs fast ranking debate, you don't necessarily benefit more from NPCing. Eh?

Author:	Mythryndir Stormkyn [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:46 pm ]
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Pichu.. at your rank range guns get priority, then hull, then def. Resetting at rank 23?? no reason. Small ship build is completely worthless at rank, but serves well til 150 or so (worth saying keeping a deck/cap ratio in mind even longer is helpful also). Best to develop a kill ship regardless if you like pvp or npc (as you know you will do loads of both). But as mentioned above now is the time to kill like a beast. Reds are never easier than 150 and below, and the dominions are strong for your rank (size/dmg/upkeep). Expect a very detailed guide doc to be available within days to all SA legions for developing extremely effective low rank kill ships.

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Author:	Epicownage [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:40 pm ]
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bobdebouwer wrote: Epicownage wrote: Without turning this thread into one huge slow vs fast ranking debate, you don't necessarily benefit more from NPCing. Eh? It's all about relative strength.

Author:	Silens [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:26 pm ]
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Bigger guns.

Author:	KJReed [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:52 am ]
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Epicownage wrote: bobdebouwer wrote: Epicownage wrote: Without turning this thread into one huge slow vs fast ranking debate, you don't necessarily benefit more from NPCing. Eh? It's all about relative strength. for the energy spent you get more from npcing. Npcing then freezing would be better than missions or pvp(assuming have battle market stuff already) up to the same point.

Author:	KJReed [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:54 am ]
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Oh and as to the original post if you are moving away from a ssb your gonna need more def.

Author:	Pichu [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:43 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Need advice how to improve rank 23 ship
Ok thanks for the advice and heres an update on my ship(My defense is still same ) ize Class: Light Frigate Space: 66 / 66 Attack: 319 Defense: 14 Hull: 975 Shield: 25 Energy: 118 It might be a good idea for me when/if i get gp to get the 2 trinity cores they are cheap and low space And my mods 1 Protean armory and 2 Nanosphere platings Hull 2 dominion cannos weapons Im researching the +6s 1/3 and then hull to nexus then +750 shields(got 450 shields right now)