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Planetary Rings +20% Production VS Large Moons
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Author:  Spaceman [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:08 am ]
Post subject:  Planetary Rings +20% Production VS Large Moons
Which is a better option to have on mission exotic and mission dyson ?
Author:  kirkeastment [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Planetary Rings +20% Production VS Large Moons
Spaceman wrote:
Which is a better option to have on mission exotic and mission dyson ?


I would personally go for moons on both... at the end of the day if dan keeps adding more and more +1/+2/+3 arti buildings for just 1 space, that extra 14 space on an ME or 16 space on a MD could add up.
Author:  Darth Flagitious [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:43 am ]
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I've not bought any Transfusers, but last I was aware, there isn't an option. You get what you get.
Author:  PaulHsiao [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:52 am ]
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Darth Flagitious wrote:
I've not bought any Transfusers, but last I was aware, there isn't an option. You get what you get.

For those that have deep pockets, not having a choice hardly matters :lol:

It ends up depending on what you have access to, many low ranks do not have access to things hidden deep inside a mission chain, where the extra space they have cannot be filled anyway. If you have enough items (artifact heavy, obviously), Large Moons would be better than rings. If you can't fill the space, rings are a great choice (assuming you are lucky enough to get them).
Author:  Trinton [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:04 am ]
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The planet could be chosen in advance based on what it has.

I haven't seen a hard core number crunching, but side by side I've seen more production from rings then moons from exotics in our legion both at 20x.
Author:  KJReed [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:27 am ]
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Rings. 20% boost to the most efficient things, as opposed to 20% more space for less efficient things.
Author:  Monk223 [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Planetary Rings +20% Production VS Large Moons
PaulHsiao wrote:
Darth Flagitious wrote:
I've not bought any Transfusers, but last I was aware, there isn't an option. You get what you get.

For those that have deep pockets, not having a choice hardly matters :lol:

It ends up depending on what you have access to, many low ranks do not have access to things hidden deep inside a mission chain, where the extra space they have cannot be filled anyway. If you have enough items (artifact heavy, obviously), Large Moons would be better than rings. If you can't fill the space, rings are a great choice (assuming you are lucky enough to get them).



DF was saying that transfusers produce random effects. Meaning, you have no choice in what you get, "you get what you get". These can only be used once. You use it, you get random effect, you can't use it again on that planet. Deep pockets won't help you there. So, yea, getting Large moons would be good, but that's only if you're lucky enough to get them on the planets. Although in my opinion, rings would be better.
Author:  KJReed [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Planetary Rings +20% Production VS Large Moons
Monk223 wrote:
PaulHsiao wrote:
Darth Flagitious wrote:
I've not bought any Transfusers, but last I was aware, there isn't an option. You get what you get.

For those that have deep pockets, not having a choice hardly matters :lol:

It ends up depending on what you have access to, many low ranks do not have access to things hidden deep inside a mission chain, where the extra space they have cannot be filled anyway. If you have enough items (artifact heavy, obviously), Large Moons would be better than rings. If you can't fill the space, rings are a great choice (assuming you are lucky enough to get them).



DF was saying that transfusers produce random effects. Meaning, you have no choice in what you get, "you get what you get". These can only be used once. You use it, you get random effect, you can't use it again on that planet. Deep pockets won't help you there. So, yea, getting Large moons would be good, but that's only if you're lucky enough to get them on the planets. Although in my opinion, rings would be better.

if you buy a planet that has rings to use your arti on then the randomness doesnt affect you.
Author:  Monk223 [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:35 am ]
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KJReed wrote:
if you buy a planet that has rings to use your arti on then the randomness doesnt affect you.


Well, according to the wiki (and the game :) ), the reality transfuser: Allows the planet to be analyzed to unlock a permanent random effect on it and can only be used on planets that do not already have such an effect.

So, what your saying is that there's a way around that? I guess a naturally occurring permanent effect would be it but I would suppose even naturally occurring events would fall under the second requirement.


P.S.: Typo in Reality Transfuser description.
Author:  KJReed [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Planetary Rings +20% Production VS Large Moons
Monk223 wrote:
KJReed wrote:
if you buy a planet that has rings to use your arti on then the randomness doesnt affect you.


Well, according to the wiki (and the game :) ), the reality transfuser: Allows the planet to be analyzed to unlock a permanent random effect on it and can only be used on planets that do not already have such an effect.

So, what your saying is that there's a way around that? I guess a naturally occurring permanent effect would be it but I would suppose even naturally occurring events would fall under the second requirement.


P.S.: Typo in Reality Transfuser description.

yeah theres two ways

1) use transfuser, dont like what you get pick another planet try again. repeat till you get desired effect, then use transformer.

2)(the smart way) go to trading post. pay tech/artis for planet with desired effect. use transformer.
Author:  Monk223 [ Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Planetary Rings +20% Production VS Large Moons
KJReed wrote:
Monk223 wrote:
KJReed wrote:
if you buy a planet that has rings to use your arti on then the randomness doesnt affect you.


Well, according to the wiki (and the game :) ), the reality transfuser: Allows the planet to be analyzed to unlock a permanent random effect on it and can only be used on planets that do not already have such an effect.

So, what your saying is that there's a way around that? I guess a naturally occurring permanent effect would be it but I would suppose even naturally occurring events would fall under the second requirement.


P.S.: Typo in Reality Transfuser description.

yeah theres two ways

1) use transfuser, dont like what you get pick another planet try again. repeat till you get desired effect, then use transformer.

2)(the smart way) go to trading post. pay tech/artis for planet with desired effect. use transformer.


I misinterpreted what you were saying. I see that you are saying before transforming into a dyson or exotic, buy planet with effect then transform. That makes sense, something to think about if I ever get the qse for my Mdyson.
Keep calm and carry on.

EDIT: Rings, go for the rings! Sonic has never let me down before.
Author:  asdfgr [ Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Planetary Rings +20% Production VS Large Moons
Rings, Best a planet with rings and moons (I've seen one, both were natural) but of course those are basiclly non-existent. But I believe Rings are better on an invincible planet, Moons are probably better on a needs to be cloaked planet.
Author:  creamer [ Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Planetary Rings +20% Production VS Large Moons
Reality Transfuser. Allows the planet to be analyzed to unlock a permanent random effect on it. Can only be used planets that do not already have such an effect. You cannot use the same arti on a planet twice, but Does this mean you can still use one on a planet where the Moons or Rings were found naturally?
Author:  KJReed [ Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:35 am ]
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Nope. Once a planet has rings ruins or moons you can't use it. (those are the only ones that gives, all others are natural only)
You could transfuse, get rings, then later naturally get moons. The chance of that is miniscule but still possible.
Author:  asdfgr [ Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:47 am ]
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A planet like that would sell for a lot (even if it were a very tiny barren with ex sparse mining). Is it possible to get maybe 3 or even 4 effects on the planet?
Author:  KJReed [ Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Planetary Rings +20% Production VS Large Moons
asdfgr wrote:
A planet like that would sell for a lot (even if it were a very tiny barren with ex sparse mining). Is it possible to get maybe 3 or even 4 effects on the planet?

there is no known limit.
Author:  asdfgr [ Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:02 am ]
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Okay, we can all be hopeful!!! I wish I had a single planet with a pernament effect on it. I have 31 owned planets.
Author:  Mekoides [ Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Planetary Rings +20% Production VS Large Moons
asdfgr wrote:
Okay, we can all be hopeful!!! I wish I had a single planet with a pernament effect on it. I have 31 owned planets.


I only have 5 planets and one has a permanent effect. I was so excited to see the message when I logged in...until I saw it was a Stealth Screen.
Author:  asdfgr [ Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:08 pm ]
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If it is a vl, arti icy, it s very good, stealth screen makes it very easy to make invisible.
Author:  thunderbolta [ Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Planetary Rings +20% Production VS Large Moons
How to guarentee the effect you want on your mission planets:

Step 1) Get a planet that you wish to transform. You'll probably want to uplift this depending on what happens next step, so make it a good one.
Step 2) Transfuse.
Step 3) If you get the desired effect, Hyper Terraform/Dyson Terraform. Otherwise, just uplift to 15x and enjoy.
If you didn't get the desired effect, repeat.
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