I see this medal listed on the wiki, but I look my medals page and I can’t seem to find it. Does anyone know what requirements are needed to see this medal?

Re: critical hack medal

Also, the wiki is a good source of information these days.

that medal is a hidden medal, meaning you can only see it when you actually completes it (lol)

It takes a while to do that though Good luck

With that said it still has broken links still

He said he saw it on the wiki, that didn't answer the question. None of this did, in fact.

Close, you have to be under the effect of a QFT to see it.



I believe that answers his question completely.

He asked what was needed to see the medal on his medals page. The quote describes the action needed to see it. Scroll up one and two posts on the quote I linked, and you will see that it's a hidden medal. While the wiki doesn't provide the info about it being hidden, it does provide the requirements as well.

Perhaps it wasn't clear enough, but I'm pretty sure it did answer the question completely.

Wolfy, that is not correct. Asquall's information was correct.

None of what was said in that post answered the question. The quote does not describe how to see it, only how to get it (these are two different things). Certainly, you can find the information somewhere else in the linked thread, but considering the link went directly to a specific post that didn't answer the question, and the bit about saying "the wiki is a good source of information" when the op specifically mentioned the wiki, it is clear that the first post hadn't actually been read and thus the response wouldn't answer the question. The fact that the answer was somewhere else in the linked thread was a fortunate but easy to miss coincidence. And of course, the link provides the same misinformation Wolfy had, which doesn't help matters.

Just had someone without the medal get hit with a QFT to test it. I stand corrected. I was misinformed you actually have to complete it not just meet the requirements to complete it to see it.

Or a purposeful attempt to show another interested party the fishing hole to see if they can suss out the fish on their own (though you seem more interested in giving pronouncements than in giving consideration to another perspective, so I am not surprised you worded it so dismissively).

So the fact that you didn't answer the question was on purpose? It seems like a stretch, pretending that you didn't know the question and then going to another thread and quoting the only person in that thread who didn't know what was going on, just to say in a more roundabout way that people need to use the Search better. But, if it means admitting the post didn't answer the question, then I'll accept it.

No, I did answer the questions, both the question in the title ("Requirements for medal") and the second question in the OP ("what requirements are needed to see this medal?"). Not sure if you are being purposefully dense, but the way to get the medal is also the way to see the medal is also the quote I included in my response to the OP.

The only thing I did not explicitly point out was that it was a hidden medal, which the other thread and other forum threads do a good job of explaining. So what I did do on purpose was give a minimal complete answer to the OP's questions, while pointing them in the direction of how to find out more.


More of a stretch than how you misinterpret my posts?


There's that same strawman of my statements that I refuted above.


Are you saying it's bad to link to threads that answer questions?



This is just bizarre. Are you saying that Darius was wrong about how to get the medal, and therefore the text I quoted was wrong? I don't even know how you can pretend to be logical stringing the sentence together that way. Is there any way to reinterpret "didn't know what was going on" to Darius' post that describes the requirements to get the medal in question which was posted in response to Petick's question about what the requirements are for the medal?!


No, I answered the question by quoting the text of the post so the OP had the information they asked for, and I provided a direct link to the source of the quote so the OP could find any other information they wanted about it there. If I wanted to say "you need to use the Search better", I would have. If you want to boil my post down to some intent, it might best be stated as "here, you can read all about it over here, and the same information you asked for is in the wiki next to the medal title". Unlike the perspective you implied when you said "He said he saw it on the wiki, that didn't answer the question," I do not believe that just citing a resource proves that the resource is being well used, and I think "read it again" is sometimes a valid response.


How about you stop putting words in my mouth and actually address what I say in my posts rather than constructing bizarre sophistries?

I'm fine with this.

I'm not sure how you can claim to have answered the question while at the same time saying you were leaving it to him to search for and discover the answer.

Oh, and "then going to another thread" was not a point by itself, so don't take it out of context.

Darious made the same mistake you're pretending you didn't make; telling someone how to get the Medal when they asked how to see the Medal.

Let's make this simple. First, in defense of Darious, Peticks expresses confusion about the medal and what the requirements are.

Darious then provides a complete description of the requirements. Only one of Peticks 2 questions had to do with the medal showing up.

Second, and I'm going to put this in an exploded view so you can tell me exactly which part of it I made a mistake on, there are two questions in the OP:

• The question in the title - Requirements for medal "Firewall? What Firewall?"
• The question in the post - Does anyone know what requirements are needed to see this medal?

Now, are you claiming

a) those aren't questions, in which case I'll go back with the Thermians until I learn your Earth language,

... or

b) "Perform a critical hack while your ship is under the effect of a 'Quantum Overload'" is not the correct answer to either of those questions, in which case you should submit a bug report to Dan because those are the conditions I fulfilled to achieve and see that medal.

?

The correct answer is what Asquall said: you need to do it in order to see it. When asking for the requirements for the Medal, he meant the requirements besides actually accomplishing the task. In all cases besides this Medal, if you can't see the Medal then you can't get it. He made it clear that he knew the Medal and the task, he merely wanted to know the requirements to see it. Thus, if we consider this from the viewpoint of someone who doesn't know that this is a hidden Medal, we see that the two questions are the same question: what are the requirements in order to see it, so I can then accomplish it? The answer to that is (as far as we know) you need only accomplish the Medal in order to see it, there are no other requirements. He can't see it because he hasn't accomplished it, not because he doesn't meet the requirements, which all other Medals would suggest to be the case. That is the answer. Telling him how to accomplish the Medal doesn't explain any of that and, because this Medal is different from all others, that explanation is necessary. As you said, you didn't say that you need only accomplish the Medal in order to see it, and thus you did not answer the question.

So, you're just not going to address any of the points I made. I had thought you'd gotten all of the trolling out of your system in early May, but apparently you're still at it?

Everything you're saying rests upon the fact that your answer answered the question, which is incorrect. There are no other points to be made. As you said, you decided not to tell him that it's a hidden Medal and left him to discover that for himself. You mistakenly thought he was asking two different questions and that you answered one of them, but as I said, that is false. I don't see how you can fail to understand that, when an assumption is false, all points derived from that assumption are false. I'll try to make it even more simple.

1) I said you didn't answer the question.
2) You said you did, because you answered question 1 and left only question 2 open.
3) You assume that question 1 was the requirements to achieve the Medal.
4) Based on him saying he found it in the wiki, and the fact that in all other cases "requirements" means being able to see the Medal, it is clear that your assumption is false.
5) Because that assumption is false, 2 is invalid.
6) 2 was your only refute to 1.
7) Therefore, you have no refute to 1.

You're trying to accuse me of ignoring your points, but if you hadn't done that to me already I might have understood sooner. As I had said, you said both that you answered the question and left the answer for him to determine himself, which is an obvious contradiction. Many of your counterpoints in that longest post of yours involved saying what I said was a strawman argument, when in fact they were clear arguments against this obvious contradiction. Had you addressed that point, I would know what I now know, which is that you answered one question and left the other open, and it is therefore not a contradiction. However, the fact that you misunderstood him, and believed that the first question was about how to achieve the Medal, means that you answered no questions. He already knew everything you said, and was not asking about that. You left the part about it being a hidden Medal for him to figure out for himself, but that was the only answer to the only question. Therefore, you did not answer the question.

EDIT: Just to be clear, I thought it would be obvious that I was addressing your point "b". Since it was not, I will state it directly: my post made it clear that what you said did not, in fact, answer the question. The only answer to the only question is that you can see the Medal when you perform the task, and there are no other requirements. You can't even see it while under the effect of a Firewall, contrary to your link.

Stop this is not helping anyone. He got the answer he needed let it go already.