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Not enough space on the planet to deploy artifact (1 required). So you do need a space empty; that much is confirmed.

Edit: I tried a Mylarai Extractor and sadly the crappy +1 AP I got cannot be removed. So I now have worst than a Space Elevator on that planet.

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Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:59 am
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Not enough space on the planet to deploy artifact (1 required). So you do need a space empty; that much is confirmed.

Edit: I tried a Mylarai Extractor and sadly the crappy +1 AP I got cannot be removed. So I now have worst than a Space Elevator on that planet.


why is that ? you can just demolish it if you unhappy :P

Oh, and can you get more than one node per planet ?


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Oh, and can you get more than one node per planet ?

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Tried the ability on the planet with the structure and got the "Planet already has maximum number" warning.

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Looks like I'll be demolishing the structure if I don't get the arti 3 sz 1 structure so far. I'm guessing its also A/R/M 1/2/3 and X 1/1/1 for all 10.

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ICBLF wrote:
asquall wrote:
So let me guess :

M for mining, A for artifact, R for research, X for all arti

basic : you get 1 production, or 1 all production, in X
prime : you get 3 production, or 2 all production, in X

4 x 2 = 8

There is still 2 more structures to guess

Naw, I still like my guess. Basic, (some middle term), Prime for each resource (A, R, M x 3 = 9) and X being 1/1/1.

Bainar Access R-Node - Advanced Research: 2

okay so

A R M (basic, advance, prime) and X

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I finally hit the jackpot!!!

Bainar Access A-Node - Prime Artifact: 3

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I was really excited to see what this all did. Then on my first try, I got this.

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40 hours later, I destroyed this and go this.

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Wow, that really sucked.

Here is a suggestion for Dan to ignore.

Initial: Size 1, Research 1
Upgrade 1: Size 1 Research 1, Mining 1
Upgrade 2: Size 1 Research 1, Mining 1, Artifact 1
Upgrade 3: Size 1 Research 2, Mining 1, Artifact 1
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Upgrade 9: Size 1 Research 3, Mining 3, Artifact 3

So 15 days for a maxed out size 1, 3/3/3. Not too over powered but makes the ability a lot less useless.

As it stands now, in theory, you could use it 9 times in a row and get all +1 research.


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I was really excited to see what this all did. Then on my first try, I got this.

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40 hours later, I destroyed this and go this.

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Wow, that really sucked.

Here is a suggestion for Dan to ignore.

Initial: Size 1, Research 1
Upgrade 1: Size 1 Research 1, Mining 1
Upgrade 2: Size 1 Research 1, Mining 1, Artifact 1
Upgrade 3: Size 1 Research 2, Mining 1, Artifact 1
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Upgrade 9: Size 1 Research 3, Mining 3, Artifact 3

So 15 days for a maxed out size 1, 3/3/3. Not too over powered but makes the ability a lot less useless.

As it stands now, in theory, you could use it 9 times in a row and get all +1 research.


I have to agree. As usual, the reward is not worth the requirements to get the reward. I think making the structure upgradeable to that point would indeed make the ability worth it.


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Also agreed. Only the +3 AP and +1 to all are tolerable so far.

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It's not like it was hard to get. Definitely at only 10 hacks/day getting a 3 to 1 AP structure every 10 days on average is worth that tiny effort.


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I have no complaints about the reward.

I'm looking forward to placing these structures

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Also agreed. Only the +3 AP and +1 to all are tolerable so far.
TOLERABLE!


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2 ap in one space is quite nice. 3 is extremely good. I'm happy as it is.

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2 ap in one space is quite nice. 3 is extremely good. I'm happy as it is.

Until all you get is a string of 1:1 research


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ICBLF wrote:
2 ap in one space is quite nice. 3 is extremely good. I'm happy as it is.

Until all you get is a string of 1:1 research

Got 2 R Basics and then 2 M Basics in a row. I'm still happy with it. Patience is a virtue.

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I've used this ability 25 times. In that time, I've gotten 1 +3 artifact, 3 +2 artifacts, everything else has been a +1 artifact or a mining/research building. I've not seen a single +1 all yet.

Still very disappointed.


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Totals   28
Artifact 16
Research  4
Mining    6
All       2
   
Prime     2
Advanced  7
Basic    17

From my limited set of data so far, it looks strongly weighted towards basic and artifact. Two X so far.

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ICBLF wrote:
From my limited set of data so far, it looks strongly weighted towards basic and artifact. Two X so far.

Great, so worse than we expected.


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Seems accurate, I got Arty 1 one 7x in a row now. I am just wastign energy demolishing it and rebuilding the same exact thing.


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ICBLF wrote:
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Totals   28
Artifact 16
Research  4
Mining    6
All       2
   
Prime     2
Advanced  7
Basic    17

From my limited set of data so far, it looks strongly weighted towards basic and artifact. Two X so far.


Here are my Bainar totals as of today:

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Totals   23
Artifact 14
Research  3
Mining   5
All       1
   
Prime     2
Advanced  8
Basic    12


My numbers seem very similar to ICBLF's.

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