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Author:  ODragon [ Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
Wonder the cost... also if you can progress quicker through Darmos.
Author:  Deigobene [ Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
Yippee!!! Two adumbrates every 40 hours instead of the disappointment of just 1 ;)
Author:  Peticks [ Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
Deigobene wrote:
Yippee!!! Two adumbrates every 40 hours instead of the disappointment of just 1 ;)

You guys at the wild hunt only lock 1 base every 40 hours O.o :P
Author:  Deigobene [ Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
Peticks wrote:
Deigobene wrote:
Yippee!!! Two adumbrates every 40 hours instead of the disappointment of just 1 ;)

You guys at the wild hunt only lock 1 base every 40 hours O.o :P

lol -the ability has a 40 hour cooldown
Author:  MrSpock [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
Bloopbloop wrote:
Just got my Cuniculus Ally to rank 100. Here is the ability:

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Could you tell us the energy cost to use this ability if there is one?
Author:  ICBLF [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
MrSpock wrote:
Bloopbloop wrote:
Just got my Cuniculus Ally to rank 100. Here is the ability:

Image


Could you tell us the energy cost to use this ability if there is one?

None.
Author:  Toruk_Makto [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
shin1 wrote:
kinda crap ability it should have an 8 hr cool down


so twice the chance at a crystal is crap? o.O
Author:  Deigobene [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
Toruk_Makto wrote:
shin1 wrote:
kinda crap ability it should have an 8 hr cool down


so twice the chance at a crystal is crap? o.O

Two separate attempts at a very low chance does not make a good chance.
The vast majority of raids each 40 hours are going to net an adumbrate station. 5 adumbrates from 5 attempts so far for the people I know who have tried.

There is a small chance at a crystal, which would be awesome, but I think saying it is "kinda crap" is a pretty fair call.
Author:  Hallucinations [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
It would alright if the 2nd raid ended up in a new crate rather than the same old same old. Some new artifacts to get etc.
Author:  Toruk_Makto [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
Hallucinations wrote:
It would alright if the 2nd raid ended up in a new crate rather than the same old same old. Some new artifacts to get etc.


not bad thinking. and two very low chances is better than one XD i'm just glad it's far better than bainar's ability. no energy to use the ability and no energy to raid the base.
Author:  Deigobene [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
Toruk_Makto wrote:
Hallucinations wrote:
It would alright if the 2nd raid ended up in a new crate rather than the same old same old. Some new artifacts to get etc.


not bad thinking. and two very low chances is better than one XD i'm just glad it's far better than bainar's ability. no energy to use the ability and no energy to raid the base.

Yep, change to the second crate would make me a lot more excited. Upgradeable Continuum Parser Mark II that eats continuum parsers would be lovely, for example :)

For me, comparison with Bainar is exactly why I think someone describing it as "kinda crappy" is quite reasonable.
Personally, I am much more excited, despite the energy costs, by the chance of a 3x or 2x arti structure on my best planets than I am by the Bio-Con Aspect ability.
Author:  The Prisoner [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
You have like a 25% chance of getting a crystal from a 7.

Lock 7s noobzzzz
Author:  Deigobene [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
The Prisoner wrote:
You have like a 25% chance of getting a crystal from a 7.

Lock 7s noobzzzz

*Yawn* ...6s,7s,8s,9s.

For the statistically retarded, even if we assume "like" a 25% chance of a crystal, it still means the vast majority will not be crystals.
Do try to keep up...
Author:  The Prisoner [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
1 / 4 + 1 / 4 = 2 / 4 = 50%

So there is no majority and/or minority here
Author:  Deigobene [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
The Prisoner wrote:
1 / 4 + 1 / 4 = 2 / 4 = 50%

So there is no majority and/or minority here

*sigh* ...that is just not the way it works.
If I flip a coin twice, I do not have 100% chance. I have 2 chances at 50%. The coin has no memory...gaaaragh...
Not sure if you are really that stupid, or trolling, so will ignore.

EDIT: Ok, so that is probably harsh.
Let me try again, in a more helpful and optimistic vein:

*takes out chalk*

Prisoner's New Theory on Statistics and Probability

The Good News

According to Prisoner's New Theory on Statistics and Probability, the chance of Crystal is:
The Prisoner wrote:
1 / 4 + 1 / 4 = 2 / 4 = 50%

So the chance of getting a crystal is now a whopping 50%!!!

Rejoice! A one in two chance of a crystal sounds awesome!

The Not so Good News

According to Prisoner's New Theory on Statistics and Probability, the chance of a Non-Crystal is:
3 / 4 + 3 / 4 = 6 / 4 = 150%

Sadly, while according to Prisoner's New Theory on Statistics and Probability the chance of getting a crystal is now a whopping 50%, the chance of not getting a crystal also rises (amazingly by the same factor) to a slightly disheartening 150%... bummer :/

Sadness! 3 in 2 chance of not a crystal doesn't sound so awesome to me :(
(Assuming of course that it was possible to have a 150% chance of getting something)

So strangely, even in the brave new world of Prisoner's New Theory on Statistics and Probability, the rate of crystals and non-crystals remains the same despite repeated attempts. Who woulda thunk it?
Author:  Kropotkin [ Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
There are four possible outcomes from a double raid:

1: Non-crystal, non-crystal = 75% * 75% = 56.25%
2: Crystal, non-crystal = 25% * 75% = 18.75%
3: Non-crystal, crystal = 75% * 25% = 18.75%
4: Crystal, crystal = 25% * 25% = 6.25%

The probability of getting at least one crystal is the sum of outcomes 2, 3 and 4 which is 18.75% + 18.75% + 6.25% = 43.75% (Yes I know: 100% - 56.25% would be easier in this case ;))

Of course this probability only applies once every 40 hours, so the overall crystal probability per base raided is inversely proportional to the total number of bases raided during this period: ((43.75 + 25(x-1)) / x)% where x (a positive integer) is the number of bases raided.
Author:  The Prisoner [ Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
Now I feel stupid :P but I wont make excuses, I'll go learn stats instead!

'Merica
Author:  TheBandit [ Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
The Prisoner wrote:
Now I feel stupid :P but I wont make excuses, I'll go learn stats instead!

'Merica


Will you go do it...'Stat?'
Author:  The Prisoner [ Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
TheBandit wrote:
The Prisoner wrote:
Now I feel stupid :P but I wont make excuses, I'll go learn stats instead!

'Merica


Will you go do it...'Stat?'

Image
Author:  Bloopbloop [ Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cuniculus, Lepus Adjutant: Ally
MrSpock wrote:
Bloopbloop wrote:
Just got my Cuniculus Ally to rank 100. Here is the ability:

Image


Could you tell us the energy cost to use this ability if there is one?

Despite it not mentioning having to use any, it uses 500 energy per use.
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