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I thought having 10x the energy as my level = autorank.
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Asheron
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:28 am Posts: 580 Location: Asheron's Island, Dereth
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FOREWORD: I'm arguably a "beginner to autoranking"
I have 7355 energy (without deactivating relays & e-draining weapons.) My rank is 745. I don't seem to come close to autoranking even with Neurals activated.
Who claimed that having 10x the energy as our level will allow us to autorank? I'm learning the hard way that this is a wrong claim.
Then again, is there a mission with a ratio that allows it? What's the ratio to be allowed to autorank at 10x the energy as our level?
Someone clear up this new confusion. Thanks. - Asheron
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Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:02 am |
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Deigobene
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:26 pm Posts: 1076
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10x is widely proposed as the amount at which you can autorank with Neurals and RSL Memory Implants, assuming you have decent attack, something around 20x your rank. 12x should allow you to autorank without neurals and RSL Memory Implants, assuming you have decent attack, and also assuming you don't run into too many low xp bosses. What you need really need is just more energy, all the time. This really won't change as you get to higher levels. 18x or 19x allows for significant base battle contributions, random low xp missions like Raix, Thraccti Ability, Bainar Ability, Ranking Cuniculus... etc, etc, etc Whole lot of energy needed, for a whole lotta stuff
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Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:19 am |
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ICBLF
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:52 pm Posts: 1663 Location: where the dead ships dwell
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XP buffs are bad.
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Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:26 am |
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KJReed
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:08 am Posts: 3142
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20 x your rank in attack is way way low. Probably should be aiming for 50 ish at least. Depending on npcs available and your rank you can actually do it without a, neural a.10 x or even slightly under.
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Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:34 am |
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SuperStar
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:46 am Posts: 285 Location: NOT on Spotify
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When I was rank 748, I had 13,938 unbuffed attack and 8,375 max energy. And with those stats, I was easily able to autorank off NPCs with a neural and the regular NPC buffs.
Asheron, what is your unbuffed attack? Because energy alone does not determine a ship's ability to autorank off NPCs.
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Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:41 am |
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miffedn00b
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:54 pm Posts: 46
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10x allows autoranking off NPCs with xp and atk buffs as stated by others here but not missions, in case that's what OP was referring to. Am not familiar with any mission with 3.1 times or higher xp/e.
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Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:47 am |
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asquall
Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:22 am Posts: 1121
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miffedn00b wrote: 10x allows autoranking off NPCs with xp and atk buffs as stated by others here but not missions, in case that's what OP was referring to. Am not familiar with any mission with 3.1 times or higher xp/e. Chron-Shifter mission EDIT : and the earlier Prejoran chain missions.
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Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:53 am |
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Mwchism
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:46 am Posts: 602 Location: Everett, WA
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SuperStar wrote: When I was rank 748, I had 13,938 unbuffed attack and 8,375 max energy. And with those stats, I was easily able to autorank off NPCs with a neural and the regular NPC buffs.
Asheron, what is your unbuffed attack? Because energy alone does not determine a ship's ability to autorank off NPCs. It's somewhere in the low 7k range i believe
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Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:12 am |
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Tree7304
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:05 am Posts: 2794
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Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:47 pm |
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Asheron
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:28 am Posts: 580 Location: Asheron's Island, Dereth
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Tree7304 wrote: http://galaxylegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=380350#p380350
Click that Asheron Ah, so then, I'll put rank points toward attack stats once I hit 10x energy of my level (without uninstalling energy-drainers.) Someone quoted that my attack stats should reach 50x my level. That sounds like hyperbole. Is 25x a good goal to go for in order to autorank off of NPCs? And what missions help the best in autoranking? - Asheron
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Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:47 am |
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ICBLF
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:52 pm Posts: 1663 Location: where the dead ships dwell
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Asheron wrote: And what missions help the best in autoranking? The Kill All the NPCs chain is the best for autoranking.
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Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:08 am |
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Deigobene
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:26 pm Posts: 1076
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Asheron wrote: Tree7304 wrote: http://galaxylegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=380350#p380350
Click that Asheron Ah, so then, I'll put rank points toward attack stats once I hit 10x energy of my level (without uninstalling energy-drainers.) Someone quoted that my attack stats should reach 50x my level. That sounds like hyperbole. Is 25x a good goal to go for in order to autorank off of NPCs? And what missions help the best in autoranking? - Asheron Yep, 50x your unbuffed attack is totally, absolutely and completely unnecessary. I have never had 50x my rank in attack, yet have happily been able to autorank since Rank 300 or so. As you can see from Taylor Swift's stats around your rank, around 20x unbuffed attack is more than enough. It is also almost exactly the figure Tree suggested in the other post. This also tallies with my own stats from around your rank, when 26x Attack and 12x energy was enough to easily autorank. As a general rule, if you want advice on autoranking, then Taylor Swift and Tree are very good places to start. As ICBLF has pointed out, no missions really help with autoranking. Unbuffed attack around 20x your rank and 10x (then 12-13x, then just more!) energy is all you need. Also, as ICBLF pointed out, it is very preferable not to have to use XP buffs like neurals.
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Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:28 am |
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KJReed
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:08 am Posts: 3142
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Deigobene wrote: Asheron wrote: Tree7304 wrote: http://galaxylegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=380350#p380350
Click that Asheron Ah, so then, I'll put rank points toward attack stats once I hit 10x energy of my level (without uninstalling energy-drainers.) Someone quoted that my attack stats should reach 50x my level. That sounds like hyperbole. Is 25x a good goal to go for in order to autorank off of NPCs? And what missions help the best in autoranking? - Asheron Yep, 50x your unbuffed attack is totally, absolutely and completely unnecessary. I have never had 50x my rank in attack, yet have happily been able to autorank since Rank 300 or so. As you can see from Taylor Swift's stats around your rank, around 20x unbuffed attack is more than enough. It is also almost exactly the figure Tree suggested in the other post. This also tallies with my own stats from around your rank, when 26x Attack and 12x energy was enough to easily autorank. As a general rule, if you want advice on autoranking, then Taylor Swift and Tree are very good places to start. As ICBLF has pointed out, no missions really help with autoranking. Unbuffed attack around 20x your rank and 10x (then 12-13x, then just more!) energy is all you need. Also, as ICBLF pointed out, it is very preferable not to have to use XP buffs like neurals. with 20x rank in attack and 10x energy you won rank without neural and probably rsl too.
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Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:45 pm |
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chiaro:scuro
Joined: Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:56 pm Posts: 82
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KJReed wrote: with 20x rank in attack and 10x energy you won't rank without neural and probably rsl too. Agreed, I have 40x attack and 10.5x energy, and I still can't autorank without an RSL. If I don't hit shared elites/bosses, or if they don't go down quickly enough, neurals become necessary as well I was under the impression that 11x energy was needed to be able to autorank off of NPCs - does this number not include xp buffs?
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kirkeastment
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:24 pm Posts: 2810 Location: UK
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chiaro:scuro wrote: KJReed wrote: with 20x rank in attack and 10x energy you won't rank without neural and probably rsl too. Agreed, I have 40x attack and 10.5x energy, and I still can't autorank without an RSL. If I don't hit shared elites/bosses, or if they don't go down quickly enough, neurals become necessary as well I was under the impression that 11x energy was needed to be able to autorank off of NPCs - does this number not include xp buffs? It does take around 11-12x these days, without xp buffs, because the 10x energy was before Assassins/Dark Eluder's/Scythe & that Scientists/Specialists Vessel came out, so doesn't factor in the increase of 10xp kill npc's.
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Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:57 pm |
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Deigobene
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:26 pm Posts: 1076
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At the risk of repeating myself, from the very first post in response to Asheron's OP... Yes, at 10x Energy, you will need to use XP buffs. Deigobene wrote: 10x is widely proposed as the amount at which you can autorank with Neurals and RSL Memory Implants, assuming you have decent attack, something around 20x your rank. 12x should allow you to autorank without neurals and RSL Memory Implants, assuming you have decent attack, and also assuming you don't run into too many low xp bosses. What you need really need is just more energy, all the time. This really won't change as you get to higher levels. 18x or 19x allows for significant base battle contributions, random low xp missions like Raix, Thraccti Ability, Bainar Ability, Ranking Cuniculus... etc, etc, etc Whole lot of energy needed, for a whole lotta stuff
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Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:46 pm |
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pokerman123
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:19 am Posts: 852
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for your rank aim for a 14 to 1 rank ratio on energy you should be able to auto rank with out having to use any xp buffs also giving you a bit of energy to hit the lab to make some goodies as well as i posted as you get higher in another post you will need a bigger energy bar i am aiming for a 20 to 1 energy bar personally right now keep getting stuck at 17 to 1 lol as for attack it will grow in time just do a 2 t.o's 1 energy per prisoner or all 3 depending how fast you want that 14 to 1 ratio i was told this by allot of people when i was lower rank a 14 to 1 ratio is great for npc hunting never heard about a 10 to 1 ratio though
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Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:15 pm |
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mumra_2790
Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:11 pm Posts: 160
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I'm rank 628 with 20k Buffed attack and 7k energy, with a Neural I am able to autorank. Even then I go to the lab to use excess energy
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Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:07 am |
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