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fixers brilliant for hull :D on th Q-phased plating, disruptor cannons and inertial cancellers...woo


Yeah, particuarly for PvP fixers are great, although sadly not available to Vygoid. Vygoid Fixer would be my race of choice, but Konqul Fixer is better than Vygoid Excavator to my mind.

P.S. Nexus Plating, Singularity Launchers, Quantum Overlays. Working on scanners, buildings then Anti-Protons. Rank 87.

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Hacker. Yuck. If you want to hack go Spy not hacker... hacker only helps you in hacking. Spy will help when it comes to qualifying for missions, staying off the BT (supposedly), helping your planets remain hidden while you guard them...

+1...im beating you in at least 4 things...whats yur research per hour tetrix?


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fixers brilliant for hull :D on th Q-phased plating, disruptor cannons and inertial cancellers...woo


Yeah, particuarly for PvP fixers are great, although sadly not available to Vygoid. Vygoid Fixer would be my race of choice, but Konqul Fixer is better than Vygoid Excavator to my mind.

well its good for me cause i like to PVP and base attack. what are u now, fixer again or still spy?


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Fixer still, never got the GP to change.

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Fixer still, never got the GP to change.

thats good, fixers better anyway...but i see your on nexus plating :P good job and almost antiprotons :O


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Getting ready for the upkeep lurch. :/ I'll be fine. I make 70mil/day and with 2 anti-protons my upkeep will be around 30mil. I'll be okay up to around 4 anti-protons.

Which makes an excellent point for the Tetrix. Don't research more than you can afford. For a long time I relied on financial support become my income was less than my upkeep. Once you hit rank 85 your income will spike, that's a good time to upgrade alot of things.

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Getting ready for the upkeep lurch. :/ I'll be fine. I make 70mil/day and with 2 anti-protons my upkeep will be around 30mil. I'll be okay up to around 4 anti-protons.

Which makes an excellent point for the Tetrix. Don't research more than you can afford. For a long time I relied on financial support become my income was less than my upkeep. Once you hit rank 85 your income will spike, that's a good time to upgrade alot of things.



30mil? i never want to get to that, 700k+ now D: 3 cannons...D: one more question strm, how do u have so much decks? i been putting all my points in decks and calculated that i have 20-40 less than u did at yur rank


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strm avenger wrote:
Getting ready for the upkeep lurch. :/ I'll be fine. I make 70mil/day and with 2 anti-protons my upkeep will be around 30mil. I'll be okay up to around 4 anti-protons.

Which makes an excellent point for the Tetrix. Don't research more than you can afford. For a long time I relied on financial support become my income was less than my upkeep. Once you hit rank 85 your income will spike, that's a good time to upgrade alot of things.



30mil? i never want to get to that, 700k+ now D: 3 cannons...D: one more question strm, how do u have so much decks? i been putting all my points in decks and calculated that i have 20-40 less than u did at yur rank

He probably had a better artefact income

More art=more ship-bots, prisoners, x-charge cells etc. = more decks+ship strength

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strm avenger wrote:
Getting ready for the upkeep lurch. :/ I'll be fine. I make 70mil/day and with 2 anti-protons my upkeep will be around 30mil. I'll be okay up to around 4 anti-protons.

Which makes an excellent point for the Tetrix. Don't research more than you can afford. For a long time I relied on financial support become my income was less than my upkeep. Once you hit rank 85 your income will spike, that's a good time to upgrade alot of things.



30mil? i never want to get to that, 700k+ now D: 3 cannons...D: one more question strm, how do u have so much decks? i been putting all my points in decks and calculated that i have 20-40 less than u did at yur rank

He probably had a better artefact income

More art=more ship-bots, prisoners, x-charge cells etc. = more decks+ship strength


good point :P thanx lol


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Kronyn may be better than Vygoid especially at lower ranks. I'm not sure of the maths though.

Every 2 days you can boost a planets research production by 25%. Let's say that you colonise a research planet every 2 days and boost the production onece you colonise it. This makes the bonus better than the 20% Vygoid bonus.

It's unlikely you'll colonise research planets that fast in which case the bonus for the Kronyn is even better. In a week you can boost a planets production by 75%.

What this means is you'll need fewer research planets.

It's less useful at high ranks because I've already colonised loads of planets so it'll take me a long time to make up for the 20% loss in production.

As for profession, exavateur is really useful at higher ranks because good arti planets are hard to find. At lower ranks it's more important to focus on research I think.

Builder is also a good profession, especially at higher ranks. With Vygoid Builder you'll get the better technology quicker and be able to afford it. I have quite high mining so can afford to be without being a builder but I could install a lot more of the advanced ship tech if I was builder. I'm Rank 440+ and my upkeep is 2.6 billion but it'd be half that if i was builder.

Explorer is also good because it boosts scan to find better planets. The only problem is that's it's not useful all the time. It's only good when you do a scan blitz.

This is the good thing about NPC hunting. It's a great way to get planet production boosts for research and mining (and, if the Scourge are out at xmas, for artifact too). This compensates for the faster levelling. There's also lots of good ship stuff and other drops from big bosses. Once you've got a lot you can start scrapping them for complex tech parts which can be used to buy stuff on the forums.

If you decide to switch to hunting NPCs you can join Torment. we have close to 10k RP a day with a level 4 base. The legion leader - Dave is a good guy. we're both heavy NPC hunters. At about rank 100 you'll be ready to start NPC hunting.

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It's not 25% increase, unless your colonising average planets.

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If you decide to switch to hunting NPCs you can join Torment. we have close to 10k RP a day with a level 4 base. The legion leader - Dave is a good guy. we're both heavy NPC hunters. At about rank 100 you'll be ready to start NPC hunting.


this isnt an advertising thread....


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Remainder wrote:

If you decide to switch to hunting NPCs you can join Torment. we have close to 10k RP a day with a level 4 base. The legion leader - Dave is a good guy. we're both heavy NPC hunters. At about rank 100 you'll be ready to start NPC hunting.


this isnt an advertising thread....


It's an offer to join the legion I'm in if they switch to a strategy I advocate.

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It's not 25% increase, unless your colonising average planets.


Really? What's the bonus then on, say a rich planet?

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It's a boost to richness. Like Taltherian and Mylarai it increases the richness by 1. While the % displayed is 25%, on a rich planet your not going to make 25% more than you were before.

So if I get a large/rich gas and put 20 raw units on and use time vortexes to make it peaked.

20*2(richness)*2(colony age)=80
Now if I improve it...
20*2.25(richness)*2=90

Now if it were a flat 25% increase, that'd be 100. On a rich it's a 12.5% increase.

To clarify, the multiplier increases by 25%, not the actual production.

On an average planet:
20*1(richness)*2(age)=40
20*1.25(richness)*2(age)=50

Please note that the difference is actually the same, and that richness does not effect how good the upgrade is.

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My research per hour is 746. 304 mineral units. 111 artifact points. I know, I have terrible planets. :/ This is with cloak, attack, and defense only on the very best ones and +5 structures. Well, +4 arti structures.

Hmm... Kronyn does sound cool. I haven't even finished the first mission in the chain, though. I'll need a lot of flux probes. xP
I'll think about it.


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Sorry for bumping up an older topic, but I I've improved slightly. I think.

Rank 87 Vygoid Excavator
Energy: 200
Hull: 1385
Shield: 45
Credits: Around 600M

Size Class: Light Battleship
Space: 350/356
Attack: 963
Defense: 472
Scan: 6
Cloak: 75
Cargo: 61/160
Upkeep: 9.9M

Weapons: Light Singularity Launcher x2, Heavy Quantum Devastator, Dominion Cannon - Mark II x4, Prototype Mech XV
Energy: Drannik Power Core, Omicron Injector
Sensors: AI Supercomputer
Hull: Overcharged Q-Phased Plating x3
Shields: Harmonic Resonator
Cloaking: Kronyn Anomaly Engine, CipherBot
Defenses: Phase Shift Engine - Mark III, BM50 Convoy Shuttle, Thrust Stabilizer

My production is influenced by trading hubs, and may not be totally accurate.
Research: 1039
Mineral: 415
Artifact: 652


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Sorry for bumping up an older topic, but I I've improved slightly. I think.

Rank 87 Vygoid Excavator
Energy: 200
Hull: 1385
Shield: 45
Credits: Around 600M

Size Class: Light Battleship
Space: 350/356
Attack: 963
Defense: 472
Scan: 6
Cloak: 75
Cargo: 61/160
Upkeep: 9.9M

Weapons: Light Singularity Launcher x2, Heavy Quantum Devastator, Dominion Cannon - Mark II x4, Prototype Mech XV
Energy: Drannik Power Core, Omicron Injector
Sensors: AI Supercomputer
Hull: Overcharged Q-Phased Plating x3
Shields: Harmonic Resonator
Cloaking: Kronyn Anomaly Engine, CipherBot
Defenses: Phase Shift Engine - Mark III, BM50 Convoy Shuttle, Thrust Stabilizer

My production is influenced by trading hubs, and may not be totally accurate.
Research: 1039
Mineral: 415
Artifact: 652


not too bad for that rank.. just need to up your hull tech and its time to get your MP and RP up more for the higher techs and their costs.

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That's the plan. I'm slow-ranking at the moment, too, so my stats can only improve. :)


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