Power: 20
Toughness: 21.6


(currently a Genetarr Explorer)

POWER = 16.25

TOUGHNESS = 13.897382199

Rank 141, around 44 unbuffed. Not too bad.

Power: 28.5
Toughness: 25.8

Power 37
toughness 48.4

No idea if that's good bad or anything lol

SS/R...73.75

Power...40.2

Toughness...34.4

Rank 126 Aerlen Fixer

POWER = attack / rank
TOUGHNESS = (defense + hull + shield) / (damage cap + rank)

RACE: Litheor Excavator
POWER = 40.87
TOUGHNESS = 33.88

*Maybe we should come up with current scan & cloak power?! (Not max, but carrying)

I don't understand the point of rank in this, damage cap already has it incorporated. Why is rank double counted in this?

POWER = 38.1
TOUGHNESS = 42.9

damage cap is only related to rank for SSB's.

for everyone else, it is deck/2.

EDIT: new power/toughness chart here:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37703&start=0

I know that, but the damage cap includes rank since it is cap = Max(deck/2, (rank+19)/2). If say 2 ships with all else being equal, except rank the higher one is considered less tough even though it is just as hard to kill, unless they are SSBs, which would be accounted for in the damage cap portion.

Squishy has less hull, defense, and shields and a higher damage cap than me, but since I am 300+ ranks above him I am considered less tough. Even though if the same person went after each of us (offline) they would spend more energy killing me than squishy.

You're right about it essentially being a double up, Wolfy. But my understanding is that these ratios are meant to give players an idea of how well they are going or strong their ship is "for their rank" without having to seek out other ships in their rank and ask them what their stats are. If you just wanted to know straight out whose ship is harder to disable then just work out the min. shots to kill for each ship.

By using rank as a common denominator you have a means of making a comparison. I guess it's saying that the extra 300 ranks you have on squishy has allowed you more of an opportunity to build a stronger ship than him but that by the time he reaches your rank he would have a stronger ship than yours. It's never going to be a perfect system but the reason it's not just absolute values is so that players have a common factor with which to compare their ship with any other.

I have not seen alot of players my rank commenting here, or I just have not looked hard enough

rank 130

ship strength formula 1 : 27.04 oh I thought it was going to be better than that
formula 2 : ouch my brain

POWER : 16.9 again, ouch my ego
TOUGHNESS : 35.57 ooh a someone normal number, ego slightly higher

Aside from some planet slots, often going to be unused, and an insignificant amount of rank points, there is no difference between a rank 1201-1999. If they are equal in everything besides rank, then the toughness should reflect that, because rank stops being a factor in ship strength pretty early on. Using it as a way to compare makes no sense especially when the bonus of it are not helping the higher rank in any meaningful way; they stop adding decks and don't use the rank points to boost their defense.

If say 2 people somehow made it to rank 1201 with identical stats and one decides to level a base gains 100 ranks over night, he only loses the potential of farming terraformers from NPCs, he doesn't become weaker all of a sudden (unless he is a SSB). Essentially what is happening is the potential of growth is being measured as well, or in my example with me and squishy my lack of it. I may not be as tough as he will be but right now I am tougher to kill than he is.

Everything you're saying is correct imo, especially that bit about it being the potential which is being measured with these 'per rank' ratios. The 'toughness' and 'power' titles should more accurately (but too cumbersomely) be 'toughness rank ratio' and 'power to rank ratio'. If it were just how powerful your ship is compared to another then you'd only need to look at each ship's attack and you'd know, but that doesn't help someone 1500 ranks below you figure out if they are building their ship at a similar rate as you did and are 'on the right track' or even growing in strength much faster than you (and others ranked higher than they are) did. Or as a lot of players seem to do in this thread, they track their own growth rate to see if it's getting better or worse as they rank up.

POWER = attack / rank
TOUGHNESS = (defense + hull + shield) / (damage cap + rank)

Power: 23.786407767
Toughness: 24.9540856031
SS/R: 64.2750809061

Rank 309 Aerlen Explorer

Rank 538

POWER:
22.38(Konqul)
18.65 - non-Konqul
SS/R:
35.1 non-Konqul
38.85 Konqul - most of the time
40.04 Aerlen - sometimes

Toughness(Def + Hull + Shields)/(Cap + Rank):
18.3 non-aerlen
22.62 Aerlen Fixer (Never really go Fixer anymore)

rank 605

power 34.7
toughness 40.6

Rank 719, Taltherian Excavator:
Power: 17.94
Toughness: 25.46

SS/R=86.10
SS/D=14.53
Power=28.51
Toughness=30.90

Aerlen Excavator rank 441

power = 28.29
toughness = 33.23


rank 727