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lvl 300 at the moment +/-
i have last Galviz device left and i am thinking about to change my race/profession
tho i cant decide which way to go:
A) Taltherian Excavator/builder (depends on what i need more at the point of changing)
B) Drannik Builder (this one is almost done)
C) Xeti governor (also almost done)

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Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:39 am
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save it for taltherian if you can....

endgame you'll want a high arti per hour
(is your current arti per hour at least double your mineral per hour?)

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Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:32 am
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tal-taltherian! defeinetely. i wanna be talth :D


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Tatherian.

Drannik is good for pure NPCers but it's effectively like an XP bonus. I almost exclusively NPC but I prefer the production bonus of Vygoid Excavateur till I go Tatherian.

The Xecti I don't know about.

If you have lots of energy you might be able to autorank through the first stages of the Tatherian chain with a neural and an RSL. I'm waiting till I get over rank 600 then I'm going to try it out. I have over 7k energy on level up. It still takes a lot of energy but I think it's worth it and some of the mission rewards are pretty good.

Hopefully this new year Dan will put Sphere of the New Era as the daily reward. This offers another free race change.

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Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:58 pm
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Lone.Lycan wrote:
save it for taltherian if you can....

endgame you'll want a high arti per hour
(is your current arti per hour at least double your mineral per hour?)

i have already triple my arti against mining :)

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Tatherian.

Drannik is good for pure NPCers but it's effectively like an XP bonus. I almost exclusively NPC but I prefer the production bonus of Vygoid Excavateur till I go Tatherian.

The Xecti I don't know about.

If you have lots of energy you might be able to autorank through the first stages of the Tatherian chain with a neural and an RSL. I'm waiting till I get over rank 600 then I'm going to try it out. I have over 7k energy on level up. It still takes a lot of energy but I think it's worth it and some of the mission rewards are pretty good.

Hopefully this new year Dan will put Sphere of the New Era as the daily reward. This offers another free race change.

i am also Vygoid Excavator, so looks like there is no other options.. :)
who can tell me something about Xeti? i was thinking that that race will give me huge help with planet def/att, so less planet loss, less production loss etc, and this profession can give out some nice stuffs like moons etc i jut want to know i it worth it or my thoughts are wrong on this one

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Remainder wrote:
Tatherian.

Drannik is good for pure NPCers but it's effectively like an XP bonus. I almost exclusively NPC but I prefer the production bonus of Vygoid Excavateur till I go Tatherian.

The Xecti I don't know about.

If you have lots of energy you might be able to autorank through the first stages of the Tatherian chain with a neural and an RSL. I'm waiting till I get over rank 600 then I'm going to try it out. I have over 7k energy on level up. It still takes a lot of energy but I think it's worth it and some of the mission rewards are pretty good.

Hopefully this new year Dan will put Sphere of the New Era as the daily reward. This offers another free race change.

i am also Vygoid Excavator, so looks like there is no other options.. :)
who can tell me something about Xeti? i was thinking that that race will give me huge help with planet def/att, so less planet loss, less production loss etc, and this profession can give out some nice stuffs like moons etc i jut want to know i it worth it or my thoughts are wrong on this one


I think Tatherian still gives the best bonus. I have about 12k mining and almost 13k artifact production. I made 10 planets 15x or more mining v.large+. I've only managed to make 2 v.massive 15x arti planets and the mission exotic.

Xecti will keep your planets safer and boosts your ship defence too. The interesting thing is the governer ability. Most of the effects people have had randomly generated are temporary. I've not heard of anyone getting large moons without paying for them yet.

I would love your ratio. 36k AP/hr would be awesome.

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for me, as peaceful player i am i guess extra defensive bonus is great, tho that profession gives me doubts... havent look on forums about it yet... i am guessing it could be useful :)

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I don't like the Xecti bonus, since it's very situational. Your best planets, you're probably flux probing them regularly and using Temporal Flux Orbs to keep people away. So Xecti doesn't help you there at all unless someone scans a good planet of yours and immediately pounces on it. While possible, the chances of this are low. And your best planets (should) be well-defended, so the Xecti bonus won't matter a lot. My best-defended planet has 50k in combined off/def, with no buildings to sab. No one's conquering it without a sheer lucky roll, just like with Exotica. A 40% bonus won't make much difference. A 3% invasion chance over a 5% invasion chance is just as much of a longshot.

Most of my planets are nowhere near this well defended, but for most of them, I won't weep much if they get taken. Noooo, my precious VL VR Mining planet!!! *sob* I've got four obviation barriers on most of my planets - if someone REALLY REALLY wants some planet on the middle of my list, I'm not about to expend major resources to protect it. So again, not so helpful.

Governor is just worthless. The random effects are very infrequent, so 3X nothin' is still nothin'. Ooo Ahh I got +10% mining on a single crappy planet for a week. Or I could just be a Miner and get +10% mining to *everything!!* Counting on the RNG to *possibly* give you a permanent effect on *possibly* a good planet is a waste.

Taltherian/Vygoid/Konqul/Lazuli/etc give you guaranteed bonuses all the time, and this is the kind of profession you want too.

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