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Author:  Chandler007 [ Fri May 18, 2012 2:48 am ]
Post subject:  To Xecti or not?

Ok,

I have been working on the Xecti race on and off since rank 40 or so. I have always planned to be a Xecti Fixer early, but I also wanted to pvp at an early rank for the easier kills. I am rank 118 now and I recently decided to go all out and finish the Xecti mission while getting the 'restraining order' medal.
However, I may have encountered a setback. Since the medals are out and a part of one of them is to disable a Xecti ship, I think I may be targeted by rank 200's + if I am a Xecti at only rank 140 or so. All of the other Xecti ships seem to be at least rank 300, and others may see this as an opportunity to get closer to their medal. (But of course nobody that rank would have encountered a Taltherian yet. Which would make targeting a low Xecti useless for the time being. But they may not see it that way. They just may want to seize the opportunity.) I have a solid ship for my rank, and I am not scarred of being attacked, yet I work long shifts, and it is hard to repair / re-trap my ship often. So being attacked by multiple ships within a 12 hour span would usually end in a disable. This is an issue to me because I (as some of you may know) have a #1 priority of being disabled as little as possible.
What do you guys think?

Author:  Follyuu [ Fri May 18, 2012 2:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: To Xecti or not?

Chandler007 wrote:
Ok,

I have been working on the Xecti race on and off since rank 40 or so. I have always planned to be a Xecti Fixer early, but I also wanted to pvp at an early rank for the easier kills. I am rank 118 now and I recently decided to go all out and finish the Xecti mission while getting the 'restraining order' medal.
However, I may have encountered a setback. Since the medals are out and a part of one of them is to disable a Xecti ship, I think I may be targeted by rank 200's + if I am a Xecti at only rank 140 or so. All of the other Xecti ships seem to be at least rank 300, and others may see this as an opportunity to get closer to their medal. (But of course nobody that rank would have encountered a Taltherian yet. Which would make targeting a low Xecti useless for the time being. But they may not see it that way. They just may want to seize the opportunity.) I have a solid ship for my rank, and I am not scarred of being attacked, yet I work long shifts, and it is hard to repair / re-trap my ship often. So being attacked by multiple ships within a 12 hour span would usually end in a disable. This is an issue to me because I (as some of you may know) have a #1 priority of being disabled as little as possible.
What do you guys think?



You will be targeted by higher levels regardless of your race, that shouldn't be a deterrent from your plan. Also, there are several Taltherian floating around in that rank range. More than Xecti in fact from my personal battle tab. That being said, if you plan on pvping, you may as well go for the kill early after switching to Xecti, considering you will likely be disabled in retaliation anyway, and since Xecti gives you a big boost to defending yourself. From then on just halc up and throw on some cloak.

Author:  rafael.nicolaidis [ Fri May 18, 2012 3:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: To Xecti or not?

Yes, you should become a Xecti Governor.
Please. :twisted:

Author:  Chandler007 [ Fri May 18, 2012 3:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: To Xecti or not?

Quote:
Also, there are several Taltherian floating around in that rank range. More than Xecti in fact from my personal battle tab.

I thought minimum Taltherian rank was around 330 or so?

Also, I am a slow ranker, and after I unlocked the Xecti race I planned on not leveling while hacking 1500 ships to get the black hat medal. I am not too worried about blue badge retaliation.
I am just worried about battle tab opportunists.

Another reason I want to go Xecti is for the planet stat boosts as well.

Author:  Chandler007 [ Fri May 18, 2012 3:03 am ]
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Quote:
Yes, you should become a Xecti Governor.
Please.


No. I am not stupid.

Author:  Follyuu [ Fri May 18, 2012 3:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: To Xecti or not?

Chandler007 wrote:
Quote:
Also, there are several Taltherian floating around in that rank range. More than Xecti in fact from my personal battle tab.

I thought minimum Taltherian rank was around 330 or so?

Also, I am a slow ranker, and after I unlocked the Xecti race I planned on not leveling while hacking 1500 ships to get the black hat medal. I am not too worried about blue badge retaliation.
I am just worried about battle tab opportunists.

Another reason I want to go Xecti is for the planet stat boosts as well.


They will be visible to the same ships he is worried about attacking him from a higher rank, not to him.

Edit: err, you.

Sorry lol doing a lot at once.

Author:  Chandler007 [ Fri May 18, 2012 3:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: To Xecti or not?

Yes, Follyuu, I understand that. But me, sitting at rank 150 would look much more tempting. (Or so I think I would.)
I just do not want to set myself up to get targeted simply because Xecti are uncommon at that rank.

Author:  Follyuu [ Fri May 18, 2012 3:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: To Xecti or not?

Chandler007 wrote:
Yes, Follyuu, I understand that. But me, sitting at rank 150 would look much more tempting. (Or so I think I would.)
I just do not want to set myself up to get targeted simply because Xecti are uncommon at that rank.



I get that, I was pointing out that where you were making a point about there not being Taltherian around for them, there are actually a fair amount. Meaning they would use you to complete the medal instead of just using you as an easier route to it. The bottom line is, if you go Xecti, you will be killed. But you will also be stronger. So you gotta decide which is more important to you.

Author:  Chandler007 [ Fri May 18, 2012 3:20 am ]
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Ahh, good point. Thanks for the advice!

Author:  Billik [ Fri May 18, 2012 4:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: To Xecti or not?

Please become a governor, lose all your crew, and get disabled while you're on my tab, the only thing left for me to find :mrgreen:

Author:  KJReed [ Fri May 18, 2012 5:48 am ]
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Follyuu wrote:
Chandler007 wrote:
Yes, Follyuu, I understand that. But me, sitting at rank 150 would look much more tempting. (Or so I think I would.)
I just do not want to set myself up to get targeted simply because Xecti are uncommon at that rank.



I get that, I was pointing out that where you were making a point about there not being Taltherian around for them, there are actually a fair amount. Meaning they would use you to complete the medal instead of just using you as an easier route to it. The bottom line is, if you go Xecti, you will be killed. But you will also be stronger. So you gotta decide which is more important to you.


There are no taltherians around that rank. 0. None. And there never will be any. The chain doesnt even open until rank 230 and the minimum rank possible to be taltherian is around 330 due to it taking about 400k energy to complete. And thats saying all the exp gotten from 230 on is from that chain.

Author:  Follyuu [ Fri May 18, 2012 6:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: To Xecti or not?

KJReed wrote:
Follyuu wrote:
Chandler007 wrote:
Yes, Follyuu, I understand that. But me, sitting at rank 150 would look much more tempting. (Or so I think I would.)
I just do not want to set myself up to get targeted simply because Xecti are uncommon at that rank.



I get that, I was pointing out that where you were making a point about there not being Taltherian around for them, there are actually a fair amount. Meaning they would use you to complete the medal instead of just using you as an easier route to it. The bottom line is, if you go Xecti, you will be killed. But you will also be stronger. So you gotta decide which is more important to you.


There are no taltherians around that rank. 0. None. And there never will be any. The chain doesnt even open until rank 230 and the minimum rank possible to be taltherian is around 330 due to it taking about 400k energy to complete. And thats saying all the exp gotten from 230 on is from that chain.



Do the math, ships 200+ as he was referring to in the OP would be able to see Taltherian ships at their lowest level as well as for several levels beyond that, and as I said earlier I was referring to those ships 200+, not to himself after completing the Xecti chain. Ships who could target him, could target Taltherian as well.

Author:  Bluecifer [ Fri May 18, 2012 4:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To Xecti or not?

I wouldn't recommend Xecti until rank 250-300. If anything, Lazuli is a better turtling race (so I'm told).

Xecti: 40% to defence + attach, Fixer 30% bonus.
Lazuli: 50% to hull, Fixer 30%: 95% hull bonus.

Author:  Billik [ Fri May 18, 2012 4:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To Xecti or not?

Bluecifer wrote:
I wouldn't recommend Xecti until rank 250-300. If anything, Lazuli is a better turtling race (so I'm told).

Xecti: 40% to defence + attach, Fixer 30% bonus.
Lazuli: 50% to hull, Fixer 30%: 95% hull bonus.


50+30=?

Author:  elerian [ Fri May 18, 2012 4:52 pm ]
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Billik wrote:
Bluecifer wrote:
I wouldn't recommend Xecti until rank 250-300. If anything, Lazuli is a better turtling race (so I'm told).

Xecti: 40% to defence + attach, Fixer 30% bonus.
Lazuli: 50% to hull, Fixer 30%: 95% hull bonus.


50+30=?

Cumulative, not linnear. And blue is assuming that they have kalvium installed.

Author:  Bluecifer [ Fri May 18, 2012 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To Xecti or not?

elerian wrote:
Billik wrote:
Bluecifer wrote:
I wouldn't recommend Xecti until rank 250-300. If anything, Lazuli is a better turtling race (so I'm told).

Xecti: 40% to defence + attach, Fixer 30% bonus.
Lazuli: 50% to hull, Fixer 30%: 95% hull bonus.


50+30=?

Cumulative, not linnear. And blue is assuming that they have kalvium installed.

No actually. Then it would be 50*30*10*10 = 235.95*50 (Nanite Swarms) = 353.925% hull

Author:  elerian [ Fri May 18, 2012 5:40 pm ]
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Bluecifer wrote:
No actually. Then it would be 50*30*10*10 = 235.95*50 (Nanite Swarms) = 353.925% hull


kalviums are only +5%

Base -> 1.0
Lazuli -> 1.5
fixer -> 1.95 (was doing math in head, you were right the first time)
K1 -> 2.0475
K2 -> 2.149875 ~ 2.2 by game standards depending on what decimal place it rounds from
Nanite -> 3.2248125
total increase of 322.48% to hull

Author:  Bluecifer [ Fri May 18, 2012 5:42 pm ]
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Oh, thought they were 10% lol

Author:  RigorMortis [ Fri May 18, 2012 5:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To Xecti or not?

Chandler007 wrote:
Quote:
Also, there are several Taltherian floating around in that rank range. More than Xecti in fact from my personal battle tab.

I thought minimum Taltherian rank was around 330 or so?

Also, I am a slow ranker, and after I unlocked the Xecti race I planned on not leveling while hacking 1500 ships to get the black hat medal. I am not too worried about blue badge retaliation.
I am just worried about battle tab opportunists.

Another reason I want to go Xecti is for the planet stat boosts as well.


I retaliate to hacks with a disable and a raid (and I know others do too), so be careful with that ;).

Author:  Toastar [ Sat May 19, 2012 12:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: To Xecti or not?

A Helpful Xecti Flowchart

Have I Conquered Exotica, and Am I Trying to Hold it Long Enough to Get the Medal?
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Don't be a Xecti

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