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Post Re: Need some scan numbers
Peticks wrote:
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We're missing loads of values for scans 1 < ~500

We really need these, I think; more important than gettings loads of high scan values.

fixed it :)


The sign initially mean 1 to ~500, but I see your point. :)

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These results are very very interesting. Definitely provides a better insight as to how scanning works.

However, to get those numbers between 1 and 500 scan, we'd need a player who does a reset to get the numbers.

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Post Re: Need some scan numbers
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no buff scan 8010
696 planets scanned Planet scan button greyed out.


Sorry, but I don't think this number is correct. From my personal scans around that level I have:

Scan . . Planets

7671 . . 645
Seven Nine Three Three (the number doesn't show in the forums) . . 662
8010 . . 696 - Yours here doesn't seem to fit the pattern. Did you uninstall some scan before posting this?
8142 . . 676
8445 . . 695
8488 . . 698

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Post Re: Need some scan numbers
Seeing as it seems to be a linear relationship (for the most part), I think we ought to take a look at the interval we're getting between minimum scan values for each planet. This usually seems to be in the range of [5, 10].

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Post Re: Need some scan numbers
Some more scan results (a few less today - only about 2.8k energy spent this time) I was mostly looking at points I had already on my scan/planet list and trying to fill in about 3-4 around them to ensure they were accurate.

Scan . . Planets
5140 . . 475
5160 . . 476
5170 . . 477
5320 . . 487
5335 . . 488
5340 . . 489
5360 . . 490
5379 . . 491
5380 . . 492
5400 . . 493
5420 . . 494
5435 . . 495
5440 . . 496
5460 . . 497
5480 . . 498
5485 . . 499
5500 . . 500
6100 . . 541
6120 . . 542
6140 . . 543
6150 . . 544
6160 . . 545
6180 . . 546
6200 . . 547
6205 . . 548
6220 . . 549
7235 . . 616
7240 . . 617 - Will be picking up here tomorrow.

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Post Re: Need some scan numbers
TheCapzi wrote:
Scan = 8445 Planets = 695

Scan = 8990 Planets = 730


Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:08 pm
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Post Re: Need some scan numbers
(Scan + 560)/12

Equation I took a fairly random guess at. I'll do a scatterplot to see how accurate it is.

EDIT

It wasn't accurate. I'll do a few of these and try to make them gradually more accurate.

(Scan + 300) / 8 Was surprisingly accurate from scan values of 500 to 600.

I think though, as it seems consistent, we should be looking for ( Scan + x ) / y Where x / y gives us the average interval between each minimum scan value. Unfortunately, this interval seems to vary greatly as we increase scan size so I might be barking up the wrong tree.

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Post Re: Need some scan numbers
Linear:
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Power Series:
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Logarithmic (needs values below 500 scan):
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Polynomial:
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COMBO (next 2 graphs) of Power series to 3500 scan:
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AND Linear after 4400 scan:
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thus closer Rsquared gets to 1.00, the better the fit.

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Scan . . Planets
5460 . . 497
5480 . . 498
5485 . . 499
5500 . . 500
6100 . . 541
6120 . . 542


thanks for gathering all this info Chloron !

too bad you missed the scan for 501, that would've been the exact minimum for the medal ;)

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I wonder if any of this is affected by how the game rounds?

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Post Re: Need some scan numbers
senatorhung wrote:
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Scan . . Planets
5460 . . 497
5480 . . 498
5485 . . 499
5500 . . 500
6100 . . 541
6120 . . 542


thanks for gathering all this info Chloron !

too bad you missed the scan for 501, that would've been the exact minimum for the medal ;)

there appears to be a 15-20 number increase for each planet to be scanned. so for planet 501 you'd need around 5515 scan.

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Post Re: Need some scan numbers
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no buff scan 8010
696 planets scanned Planet scan button greyed out.


Sorry, but I don't think this number is correct. From my personal scans around that level I have:

Scan . . Planets

7671 . . 645
Seven Nine Three Three (the number doesn't show in the forums) . . 662
8010 . . 696 - Yours here doesn't seem to fit the pattern. Did you uninstall some scan before posting this?
8142 . . 676
8445 . . 695
8488 . . 698


Im getting these numbers from the screen when you hit to go scan planets..
These numbers are correct... I have 8010 unbuffed scan.. and now with 693 planets the scanner is still greyed out
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288 ... 7cfca9.png

Unless its based of my planets I scanned in my stats... 700

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Post Re: Need some scan numbers
Chakotay wrote:
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Chakotay wrote:
no buff scan 8010
696 planets scanned Planet scan button greyed out.


Sorry, but I don't think this number is correct. From my personal scans around that level I have:

Scan . . Planets

7671 . . 645
Seven Nine Three Three (the number doesn't show in the forums) . . 662
8010 . . 696 - Yours here doesn't seem to fit the pattern. Did you uninstall some scan before posting this?
8142 . . 676
8445 . . 695
8488 . . 698


Im getting these numbers from the screen when you hit to go scan planets..
These numbers are correct... I have 8010 unbuffed scan.. and now with 693 planets the scanner is still greyed out
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288 ... 7cfca9.png

Unless its based of my planets I scanned in my stats... 700

Purge one planet. If its right the button should ungray.

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Still grey... I wonder if legion alerts going to mess this up.

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Post Re: Need some scan numbers
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Still grey... I wonder if legion alerts going to mess this up.

only planets youve taken from legion alerts will count. if this was your scan during your last scan run then that means you invaded/colonized a few planets off legion mates alerts.

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Still grey... I wonder if legion alerts going to mess this up.


they do

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they do


They don't. When you open your planet list it will show the total number of planets you can see at the bottom and this will include all shared planets, but when you click to scan planets, that number displayed doesn't include any alerts.

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Chloron wrote:
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they do


They don't. When you open your planet list it will show the total number of planets you can see at the bottom and this will include all shared planets, but when you click to scan planets, that number displayed doesn't include any alerts.


I can confirm this. Had some legion alerts just before doing a scan run this morning so I looked at it to see. The number shown on the Planetary Scan window (Planets Discovered) was less then the total number of planets on the Planets tab. In fact right now I'm showing 298 planets on the planet tab but only 296 for the planets discovered number on the scan window. So I would have to conclude that alerted planets do not count when scanning.


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Post Re: Need some scan numbers
The scan power required for the eye of the universe medal is close to 5500. I had just over 5600 scan when I received the medal with 502 planets scanned. I have since removed my scanners and it has been a long time since I actually did the actual scan. I was allowed to scan for more planets but my goal was to get the medal so a scan of 5600 is maxed just over 502 planets.

I can redo the scanning run, will take a bit to be able to afford the scanners themselves though. I can post the actual amount of planets I can get with a specified scan power.

Also I was able to scan 465 planets with 5300 to 5400 scan. Just to let you know.


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TheCapzi wrote:
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Scan = 8445 Planets = 695

Scan = 8990 Planets = 730


Seems right to me... i got 8868 Scan on 725 Planets

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