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Post Best Passive Cloak Option
I've been working to max passive cloak on my best planets from Interspacial Fold Generators from Fab drops for quite some time and wondering what people think about the ratio of those to Magnetosphere Chargers (from battle market).

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Interspacial Fold Generator. . Magnetosphere Charger . . . . Final Passive Cloak
. . . . . . . 9  . . . . . . . . . . . 12. . . . . . . . . . . . 3892
. . . . . . . 22 . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . 3848
. . . . . . . 25 . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . 3892
. . . . . . . 28 . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . 3892
. . . . . . . 31 . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . 3856


The first one gives the same cloak, but the cost of Chargers is too high. That being said, what to other players prefer, the 25/4 or the 28/3?

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IFG*9, MC, IFG, MC, IFG*15, MC*3
=900, 1040, 1140, 1304, 2804, 3897

JUST SAYING

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Uy23e wrote:
IFG*9, MC, IFG, MC, IFG*15, MC*3
=900, 1040, 1140, 1304, 2804, 3897

JUST SAYING


I'm amazed that you took the time to figure out all the possible combinations in order to compute which combination provided the best outcome. How many possible combinations are there?

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Uy23e wrote:
IFG*9, MC, IFG, MC, IFG*15, MC*3
=900, 1040, 1140, 1304, 2804, 3897

JUST SAYING

Just saying that you should spend an extra Charger for 5 more passive cloak?
It looks like you're using 25 IFGs and 5 Chargers, I don't know that it's worth it.

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Chloron wrote:
Uy23e wrote:
IFG*9, MC, IFG, MC, IFG*15, MC*3
=900, 1040, 1140, 1304, 2804, 3897

JUST SAYING

Just saying that you should spend an extra Charger for 5 more passive cloak?
It looks like you're using 27 IFGs and 5 Chargers, I don't know that it's worth it.

Fix that for you

No it's not and I use 25/4 usually, sometimes if I am tired and over click I do 28/3

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Chloron wrote:
Uy23e wrote:
IFG*9, MC, IFG, MC, IFG*15, MC*3
=900, 1040, 1140, 1304, 2804, 3897

JUST SAYING

Just saying that you should spend an extra Charger for 5 more passive cloak?
It looks like you're using 25 IFGs and 5 Chargers, I don't know that it's worth it.


IFG*19
1900
MC*2
2404
IFG*4
2804
MC*3
3897
there, that saves 2 IFG.

eternalpaw wrote:
Uy23e wrote:
IFG*9, MC, IFG, MC, IFG*15, MC*3
=900, 1040, 1140, 1304, 2804, 3897

JUST SAYING


I'm amazed that you took the time to figure out all the possible combinations in order to compute which combination provided the best outcome. How many possible combinations are there?


No, I didn't. I reverse engineered it. I desired a certain end number so I manipulate MC in such a way that it generate it. By stuffing IFG in the middle I can then manipulate the tenth digit number.

I'm not sure if this one would work, because I'm not entirely sure how IFG acts.
IFG 20: 2000
MC: 2250
IFG: 2350
MC: 2635
IFG 5: 3135 <can this be done? using IFG at 3035 to push over 3135?
MC 2: 3899
25 IFG 4 MC this one.

EDIT: tested and the answer is no to 3899.... sadly 3898 is impossible because 3134 leads to 97 and 35 was proven impossible just now(cause 2804 generate 3134 and 2805 generate 3136 which leads to 3500, so MC can't make 3135 neither and IFG wont let u)

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Honestly, I just do 31 IFG and 2 MC's. It's only 40 cloak less optimal than other methods, and it means I can use more dark badges on Quantum Accelerators, which also provide cloak and AP.

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Honestly, I just do 31 IFG and 2 MC's. It's only 40 cloak less optimal than other methods, and it means I can use more dark badges on Quantum Accelerators, which also provide cloak and AP.

Same.

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Toastar wrote:
Honestly, I just do 31 IFG and 2 MC's. It's only 40 cloak less optimal than other methods, and it means I can use more dark badges on Quantum Accelerators, which also provide cloak and AP.


To be fair you are not much of a NPCer, dark badges are not in excess for you.
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Same.

Same
Non-Player Kills 29148

I have over 3k dark badges and can easily gain another 3k, I have accelerators on undefended planets. Just to put your opinions in perspective.

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Dude, you're one of the most active people in the entire game. EVERYBODY is 'not much of an NPCer' in comparison. Most people don't play as much as either one of us, so Dark Badges are not unlimited for them.

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Dude, you're one of the most active people in the entire game. EVERYBODY is 'not much of an NPCer' in comparison. Most people don't play as much as either one of us, so Dark Badges are not unlimited for them.


you have one of the lowest NPC counts in the legion. It's not a bad thing just a fact, others NPC more than you and have access to more dark badges because of it. Spending an extra 120 dark badges for 2-3 folders might be worth it for them, but not to you.

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Wolfy Minion wrote:
you have one of the lowest NPC counts in the legion. It's not a bad thing just a fact, others NPC more than you and have access to more dark badges because of it. Spending an extra 120 dark badges for 2-3 folders might be worth it for them, but not to you.

So what is your suggestion then for those who don't npc as much?

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Chloron wrote:
Wolfy Minion wrote:
you have one of the lowest NPC counts in the legion. It's not a bad thing just a fact, others NPC more than you and have access to more dark badges because of it. Spending an extra 120 dark badges for 2-3 folders might be worth it for them, but not to you.

So what is your suggestion then for those who don't npc as much?


Suggest Dan add dark badges to the GP market :lol: :lol:

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Chloron wrote:
Wolfy Minion wrote:
you have one of the lowest NPC counts in the legion. It's not a bad thing just a fact, others NPC more than you and have access to more dark badges because of it. Spending an extra 120 dark badges for 2-3 folders might be worth it for them, but not to you.

So what is your suggestion then for those who don't npc as much?


Use his method of 31 IFG +2 MC or if you are patient and want the extra 36 cloak 28+3.

Those who do NPC a lot and get a lot of badges can use the more dark badge heavy recipes.

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I'm a big fan of the 25 IFG +4 MC combo

too many planets to cloak and not enough IFGs

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I tend to go 25/4 as well usually by the time I have 25 ifg I tend to have around 750 badges.. which conveniently is enough for 4 mc and two accelerators..

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I'm a big fan of the 25 IFG +4 MC combo

too many planets to cloak and not enough IFGs

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I mainly use the 25/4, but since I only really use darks for cloak, I end up having to do 9/12 to balance it out.

M.Sphere = 120 darks. You get about 97 darks per fab drop (not including other people's alerts), so 2,425/120 ~ 20 M.Sphere per 25 fabs. Even with 2 of the other dark badge item per planet you are cloaking, you're still running a surplus.

What's not discussed is the relic badge included in the sequence. +250 usable up to 5000 passive. You'd want to hit some multiple of 250 minus 1 to get close to 5249. With the default build we are mostly using , you'd get 5142 at the end.


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SodSwym wrote:
I mainly use the 25/4, but since I only really use darks for cloak, I end up having to do 9/12 to balance it out.

M.Sphere = 120 darks. You get about 97 darks per fab drop (not including other people's alerts), so 2,425/120 ~ 20 M.Sphere per 25 fabs. Even with 2 of the other dark badge item per planet you are cloaking, you're still running a surplus.

What's not discussed is the relic badge included in the sequence. +250 usable up to 5000 passive. You'd want to hit some multiple of 250 minus 1 to get close to 5249. With the default build we are mostly using , you'd get 5142 at the end.


I'll think about that in 2 years when I have vortov ranked to 100 and omniforges on all my good planets

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