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I mainly use the 25/4, but since I only really use darks for cloak, I end up having to do 9/12 to balance it out.

M.Sphere = 120 darks. You get about 97 darks per fab drop (not including other people's alerts), so 2,425/120 ~ 20 M.Sphere per 25 fabs. Even with 2 of the other dark badge item per planet you are cloaking, you're still running a surplus.

What's not discussed is the relic badge included in the sequence. +250 usable up to 5000 passive. You'd want to hit some multiple of 250 minus 1 to get close to 5249. With the default build we are mostly using , you'd get 5142 at the end.


I'll think about that in 2 years when I have vortov ranked to 100 and omniforges on all my good planets


I already put a formula for it in the legion fb page. yw

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meh ill write a program that runs through all the combinations

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muppetds wrote:
meh ill write a program that runs through all the combinations


why? the result is manipulable.... if you are looking for some specific value tell me and I'll make it...

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Uy23e wrote:
muppetds wrote:
meh ill write a program that runs through all the combinations


why? the result is manipulable.... if you are looking for some specific value tell me and I'll make it...


meh python is acting up
*chucks snake out of window*


ok do the highest one

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muppetds wrote:
Uy23e wrote:
muppetds wrote:
meh ill write a program that runs through all the combinations


why? the result is manipulable.... if you are looking for some specific value tell me and I'll make it...


meh python is acting up
*chucks snake out of window*


ok do the highest one


highest?
5249?
3749 would be your prep amount, that takes 3012 from before last 2 MC
get end of 2 requires first MC used at 1700, which is 1920. then you want 2nd digit of 1(on top of a existing 2), so you need 2420 before 2nd MC, 2712. then bump to 3012 with 3 more IFG and you get 3012. 2 MC and you get 3749. Then relic it to 5249.
So 17 IFG, MC, 5 IFG, MC, 3 IFG, 2 MC, 6 Clandestine Revisions. Another 2400 if you use Xecti ensconcing field on it, 7649.
Anything else in mind?

The basic concept is to use IFG and 2 MCs to manipulate the last 2 digit of the cloak, I can make any number between 2500 and 3100.

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Those alternating chains annoy me, so for a few points less I choose the easy way. I have an excel with 0-31 fab drops, then apply m.spheres until above 3500. I highlighted cells with final value 3740-3749, only 2 cells were in that final range. Here are the chains (apply all fabs, apply all mags, then apply all revisions):

13 fab/9 mag -> 1300, 1480, 1678, 1896, 2136, 2400, 2690, 3009, 3360, 3746*
24 fab/4 mag -> 2400, 2690, 3009, 3360, 3746*

3746 -> apply 6 revisions -> 5246 (off by 3 but easy to perform and remember).

Your 17 IFG, MC, 5 IFG, MC, 3 IFG, 2 MC => 25 IFG, 4 mag, so extra fab drop for 3 points. Depends on level of OCD I suppose to get the absolute maximum :)


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What about those Cladinsine Revisions or whatever?

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What about those Cladinsine Revisions or whatever?


See the previous 2 posts by Uy23e and SodSwym. Looks like you didn't read page 2.

Also sorry for necro, but despite its brevity this is one of the most important threads ever to grace these forums...


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I'm amazed that you took the time to figure out all the possible combinations in order to compute which combination provided the best outcome. How many possible combinations are there?


more or less unlimited numbers of comboes, as you also have

Gift of the Void + 40 cloak, max 500 cloak
Tribute of the Void + 50 cloak, max 250 cloak
Tribute of the Void II + 60 cloak, max 400 cloak
Morphogenic Suits ability, +75 cloak, max 6000 cloak
Clandestine Revisions +250 cloak, max 5000 cloak, min 1000 cloak
Chronophase Receiver (from The Tenebris Discovery LM) +400 cloak, max 7000

you can play with to take the planet to an odd number before or after you use IFGs and MCs

have atleast 2 planets that have 5400+ pasive cloak from using these artifacts
but hard to get all the Chronophase Receiver you want, unless you are doing a fail/repead scam of the Tenebris mission

the new max with Chronophase Receiver, is just under 7400 pasive cloak using unlimited artis
and you can add the bonus (15 * 160 = 2400 extra cloak) you can get form Xecti Ensconcing Field to that, but you can only do this one time

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holy necro !

decided to break out the passive cloak on the Planetary Cloaking wiki page.

here are the combos that i came up with:

Magnetosphere Charger competes for dark badges with Quantum Accelerators and Acceleration Protocols
Clandestine Revisions competes for relic badges with Cognizant Omniforge and Ring of Ascendence
Morphogenic Suits x10 (40 hour cooldown) can replace Clandestine Revision x3 (9 relic badges) in every scenario

So, with the current situation, you can get passive cloak from:

Gifts, Tributes, and IFGs up to 3000
Magnetosphere Charger x1 to 3350
Clandestine Revision x7 to 5100
Morphogenic Suits x12 to 6000
Deep Cover ability x31 to 7550
Xecti Ensconsing Field (solo-scanned) x15 (+2400) up to 9950

Alternatively (-6 IFG, +3 Mcharger, -1 Crevision, -2 Suits), you can get passive cloak from:

Gifts, Tributes, and IFGs up to 2400
Magnetosphere Charger x4 to 3746
Clandestine Revision x6 to 5246
Morphogenic Suits x10 to 5996
Deep Cover ability x31 to 7546
Xecti Ensconsing Field (solo-scanned) x15 (+2400) up to 9946

Alternatively (-5 IFG, +2 Mcharger, -2 Suits), you can get passive cloak from:

Gifts, Tributes, and IFGs up to 2500
Magnetosphere Charger x3 to 3493
Clandestine Revision x7 to 5243
Morphogenic Suits x10 to 5993
Deep Cover ability x31 to 7543
Xecti Ensconsing Field (solo-scanned) x15 (+2400) up to 9943

Alternatively (-5 IFG, +3 Mcharger, -2 Crevision, -1 Cover), you can get passive cloak from:

Gifts, Tributes, and IFGs up to 2500
Magnetosphere Charger x4 to 3892
Clandestine Revision x5 to 5142
Morphogenic Suits x12 to 6042
Deep Cover ability x30 to 7542
Xecti Ensconsing Field (solo-scanned) x15 (+2400) up to 9942

Alternatively (-2 IFG, +2 Mcharger, -2 Crevision, -1 Cover), you can get passive cloak from:

Gifts, Tributes, and IFGs up to 2800
Magnetosphere Charger x3 to 3892
Clandestine Revision x5 to 5142
Morphogenic Suits x12 to 6042
Deep Cover ability x30 to 7542
Xecti Ensconsing Field (solo-scanned) x15 (+2400) up to 9942

Alternatively (+1 IFG, +1 Mcharger, -2 Crevision, -1 Suits, +1 Cover), you can get passive cloak from:

Gifts, Tributes, and IFGs up to 3100
Magnetosphere Charger x2 to 3856
Clandestine Revision x5 to 5106
Morphogenic Suits x11 to 5931
Deep Cover ability x32 to 7531
Xecti Ensconsing Field (solo-scanned) x15 (+2400) up to 9931


EDIT (26apr2018): just noticed this topic that tried to cover these bases.

the XC1 Transport probe (Planet Building) can be used for +400 passive cloak (before 6500) so can replace a few Morphogenic steps.

the Chronophase Receiver (LM artifact) can be used for +400 passive cloak (before 7000) so can replace a few Deep Cover steps.

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how about this one?
4 Gifts of the Void (160)
29 IFG/Combo. of Tribute of the Void (3060)
1 Rayvn/Jorts ability (3135)
2 M.C. (3899)
3 Clandestine Revisions (4649)
39 Jorts/Ravyn (7574)
I don't know if this is the "best" option, because it's rather light on the M.C.s, and I think most hardcore NPCers would want to use 3 or 4 M.C.s per planet. I'll come edit this if I find a cheaper option.

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how bout keep adding cloak till its hidden?

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Topherousenator wrote:
how about this one?
4 Gifts of the Void (160)
29 IFG/Combo. of Tribute of the Void (3060)
1 Rayvn/Jorts ability (3135)
2 M.C. (3899)
3 Clandestine Revisions (4649)
39 Jorts/Ravyn (7574)
I don't know if this is the "best" option, because it's rather light on the M.C.s, and I think most hardcore NPCers would want to use 3 or 4 M.C.s per planet. I'll come edit this if I find a cheaper option.


only issue i can see with this setup is that it is only repeatable if you have enough Gifts of the Void ...

i only have 23 and that is with some carryover from last year .. so with your combo .. i can only do 6 planets like this.

but 7574 would be the highest that you can ravyn a planet.

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juiceman wrote:
how bout keep adding cloak till its hidden?


well of course, that is the idea. but the breakouts were to give people some idea of alternative paths to 'hidden' based on what they have easier access to. for me, i want my mag chargers to go towards QAC upgrades, and my relics to go to rings of ascendance and cognizant omniforges. so minimizing those 2, even if i have to spend more time morphing / deep cloaking is worthwhile to me.

(i need 1 more completion of the mawks LM to get my morpher to max so i'm just lining up my ducks in order in advance)

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senatorhung wrote:
Topherousenator wrote:
how about this one?
4 Gifts of the Void (160)
29 IFG/Combo. of Tribute of the Void (3060)
1 Rayvn/Jorts ability (3135)
2 M.C. (3899)
3 Clandestine Revisions (4649)
39 Jorts/Ravyn (7574)
I don't know if this is the "best" option, because it's rather light on the M.C.s, and I think most hardcore NPCers would want to use 3 or 4 M.C.s per planet. I'll come edit this if I find a cheaper option.


only issue i can see with this setup is that it is only repeatable if you have enough Gifts of the Void ...

i only have 23 and that is with some carryover from last year .. so with your combo .. i can only do 6 planets like this.

but 7574 would be the highest that you can ravyn a planet.

Fine. If we can assume someone is willing to buy the Ravyn upgrade thing, then they're willing to upgrade Thraccti as well.
Note: you will need at least mark 2
If it's mark 2, use 6 tributes to get to 360
Mark 3: use 8 to get to 560
Mark 4: 7 gets you to 560
Mark 5: 4 gets you to 360
Mark 6: not on the wiki so idk

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