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nmgod
Joined: Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:12 am Posts: 55
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I been freeze ranking for a bit and just wondered if anyone else is, mainly at low levels and how you guys are going.
I am Rank 4 Aerlen Fixer, with the following ship stats: 50 Decks 670 Cargo 84 Engineers 99 Tactical Officers 38 Helmsmen 88 Scientists
Space: 49 / 50 Attack: 99 Defense: 179 Scan: 1 Cloak: 95
Hull.........Nanosphere Plating Cloaking...CipherBot Defenses..Trinity-Core Drive x2
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:23 am |
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Crazor
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:28 pm Posts: 264
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What are your productions? You are going to need at least 4k Artifact Per hour to be able to pull prisoners to add more Engineers/Tactical Officers. So the more APH you have the better your ship will be 
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:57 am |
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nmgod
Joined: Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:12 am Posts: 55
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Not possible, at level 4 you can only own 2 planets. I mainly rely on Daily Production from base and some research. Sitting at about 200 research an hour from 1 planet.
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:06 am |
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Yung
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:01 pm Posts: 970
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I'm Rank 944 Size Class: Colossal Galaxy Destroyer Space: 4315 / 4422 Attack: 14264 Defense: 10580 Scan: 12647 Cloak: 4603 Cargo: 59752 / 95855 That's without any built from minerals Attack or Defense Modules. I say actually ranking naturally gives a better advantage. 
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:46 am |
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Trinton
Joined: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:46 pm Posts: 151
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You are constantly falling behind people who have played the game for the same amount of time as you. You will gain a lot of relative strength (you vs others the same rank) but that isn't nearly as helpful as it first seems. Most of this game is about your ships absolute strength.
Take a look at Yung's stats, how are you going to catch his 14k attack based on your current strategy?
OR: if you altered course, and started gaining as much artifact production as possible, you could get more rescued prisoners, more rank points to spend, and thus more attack power.
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:22 am |
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Crazor
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:28 pm Posts: 264
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nmgod wrote: Not possible, at level 4 you can only own 2 planets. I mainly rely on Daily Production from base and some research. Sitting at about 200 research an hour from 1 planet. Best thing you can do is rank up to get more planet slots, that way you get more APH. I would suggest freeze ranking at say rank 100. That way you will have more planets colonized so hopefully you will have better productions (as long as you only take good planets!)
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:23 pm |
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Malevolentia
Joined: Tue May 21, 2013 2:47 am Posts: 841
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nmgod wrote: Not possible, at level 4 you can only own 2 planets. I mainly rely on Daily Production from base and some research. Sitting at about 200 research an hour from 1 planet. Get your mission exotic and Dyson and max them as much as possible for your rank. I pull almost 6000 from one planet.
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:32 pm |
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Tree7304
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:05 am Posts: 2794
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Malevolentia wrote: Get your mission exotic and Dyson and max them as much as possible for your rank. I pull almost 6000 from one planet. Can't get those at his rank. Freeze ranking at rank 4 is like playing the game for a couple days and then choosing to actively not play so weeks from now you can play at a slightly better advantage 
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:51 pm |
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235drew
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:11 pm Posts: 883 Location: invading your planet
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Malevolentia wrote: nmgod wrote: Not possible, at level 4 you can only own 2 planets. I mainly rely on Daily Production from base and some research. Sitting at about 200 research an hour from 1 planet. Get your mission exotic and Dyson and max them as much as possible for your rank. I pull almost 6000 from one planet. How did you pull 6000 from one planet? I'm curious what structures you used
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Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:57 pm |
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Levrosh
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:35 pm Posts: 1975
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235drew wrote: Malevolentia wrote: nmgod wrote: Not possible, at level 4 you can only own 2 planets. I mainly rely on Daily Production from base and some research. Sitting at about 200 research an hour from 1 planet. Get your mission exotic and Dyson and max them as much as possible for your rank. I pull almost 6000 from one planet. How did you pull 6000 from one planet? I'm curious what structures you used Me too
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Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:28 am |
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Malevolentia
Joined: Tue May 21, 2013 2:47 am Posts: 841
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Levrosh wrote: 235drew wrote: Malevolentia wrote: Get your mission exotic and Dyson and max them as much as possible for your rank. I pull almost 6000 from one planet. How did you pull 6000 from one planet? I'm curious what structures you used Me too To be fair, this is a Rifted Natural Dyson, but 4000 would certainly be achievable on a Mission Dyson.  I can hit over 7000 with a Klorvis thingy. Trellith Comm Relay Research: 2, Artifact: 2 Hypergate Mining: 2, Research: 2, Artifact: 2 T.O. Manufacturing Core Mining: 2, Artifact: 2 Bane Generator II Mining: 3, Artifact: 3, Attack: 800 Scruuge Hoarding Vault II Artifact: 3, Artifact Storage: 5000 Scruuge Hoarding Vault II Artifact: 3, Artifact Storage: 5000 Omnistream Gateway Mining: 3, Research: 3, Artifact: 3 Hyperforge Fabricator (100% Upgrade) Artifact: 24 Hyperforge Fabricator (100% Upgrade) Artifact: 24 Litheor Transmutative Locator Bonus Artifact: 6%, Defense: 10% Isolation Bureau Mining: 2, Research: 2, Artifact: 2, Cloak: 400 Cognizant Omniforge Mining: 1, Research: 1, Artifact: 1, Bonus Production: 5% Heist Dispatch Station Mining: 2, Artifact: 2, Attack: 300, Attack: 10% Galactic Concord Station II Mining: 2, Artifact: 2, Defense: 20% Hyperforge Fabricator (100% Upgrade) Artifact: 24 Auric Lepus Drone 3.0 Research: 1, Artifact: 3, Attack: 1500, Defense: 1500 Auric Lepus Drone 3.0 Research: 1, Artifact: 3, Attack: 1500, Defense: 1500 Alarri Signaling Drone Mining: 1, Artifact: 1 Intraphasic Hoveroid Bonus Production: 5% Adaptive Spire Mining: 1, Research: 1, Artifact: 1 Quantum Accelerator Artifact: 2, Cloak: 150 Bioship Gene Lab Research: 1, Artifact: 1, Population: 200 Antimatter Drill Mining: 1, Artifact: 1, Attack: 400
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Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:26 am |
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nmgod
Joined: Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:12 am Posts: 55
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I have played normally, ranking in a regular fashion you can easily fall behind, And a rank 1000+ means nothing to me, I am not going to see them.
I will be going for an undefeated ship.
The purpose of freeze ranking is so when you do attack you get the optimal attack for the XP gained, meaning you will rank slower, always be ahead of your competition, get badges much faster as well as more efficiently and generally have a better combat rep. Sure those that rank normally will reach higher ranks faster but they will never be stronger then you at your rank. The only advantage to ranking normally is that you will have an advantage when it comes to planets because that is when the gap between ranks really comes into play.
Freeze ranking at lvl 100 is also an option, but in my opinion the game reaches a new level then and heads down a path the leads more towards NPC and base combat. I think you should try and get all the badges you need before you reach lvl 100 and by freeze ranking at such a low level I will get faster disables, rank slower and get badges relatively faster. Meaning when I do reach level 100 I know I will have a GREAT ship and can enjoy the later stages of the game as much as I want, not try to spend my time trying to claw a badge from any weak members I can find.
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Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:06 am |
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Kara Thrace
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:48 pm Posts: 539 Location: The underside of your ship
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every undefeated ship gets defeated eventually. if not by someone in their rank range using an energy cube then by getting alerted to a legion and someone of higher rank disabling them for the giggles.
How about you just play the game and quit worrying about being the "best"?
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Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:34 am |
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nmgod
Joined: Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:12 am Posts: 55
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Kara Thrace wrote: every undefeated ship gets defeated eventually. if not by someone in their rank range using an energy cube then by getting alerted to a legion and someone of higher rank disabling them for the giggles.
How about you just play the game and quit worrying about being the "best"? I am well aware of that, and I didn't mean undefeated in the way the game means it more in the sense of having the best K:D ration sort of thing. I want to be the "best" I can be within reason, not the best in the game. Also hate to tell you, this is a method of playing the game. The purpose of a game is to entertain you, if I get entertainment from playing this way it is perfectly legitimate.
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Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:37 am |
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playret0195x
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:48 pm Posts: 2251
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Your method sucks. Quit slow ranking at rank 4. You aren't earning nearly enough AP to actually make a difference in your ship. Plus you're severely crippling yourself. So you're much stronger than the average person your (really low) rank. Let's see you stay on top about 30 - 40 ranks later. You're slipping behind badly.
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Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:52 am |
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nmgod
Joined: Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:12 am Posts: 55
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playret0195x wrote: Your method sucks. Quit slow ranking at rank 4. You aren't earning nearly enough AP to actually make a difference in your ship. Plus you're severely crippling yourself. So you're much stronger than the average person your (really low) rank. Let's see you stay on top about 30 - 40 ranks later. You're slipping behind badly. A valid point, Right now I just waiting a bit longer for my research to catch up, then I will advance a bit.
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Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:23 am |
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Wolfy Minion
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:16 am Posts: 2737
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nmgod wrote: Also hate to tell you, this is a method of playing the game. The purpose of a game is to entertain you, if I get entertainment from playing this way it is perfectly legitimate. Completely true. However it is not sustainable. Freeze ranking is like stashing money under the bed. While your wealth goes up, so does inflation and you lose money. In this case you lose the ability to compete with those who have played as long as you have. You can be a BA rank 4 and a rank 40 can come and demolish you and they will if you pick the wrong target. raid away, make your ship strong..for your rank, but don't really expect to do anything in the game any time soon.
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Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:23 am |
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nmgod
Joined: Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:12 am Posts: 55
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Wolfy Minion wrote: nmgod wrote: Also hate to tell you, this is a method of playing the game. The purpose of a game is to entertain you, if I get entertainment from playing this way it is perfectly legitimate. Completely true. However it is not sustainable. Freeze ranking is like stashing money under the bed. While your wealth goes up, so does inflation and you lose money. In this case you lose the ability to compete with those who have played as long as you have. You can be a BA rank 4 and a rank 40 can come and demolish you and they will if you pick the wrong target. raid away, make your ship strong..for your rank, but don't really expect to do anything in the game any time soon. Had not planned to, Working full time and busy otherwise so freeze ranking/slow ranking is perfect for me. I am aware of higher levels and do my best not to get alerted.
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Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:27 am |
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Kara Thrace
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:48 pm Posts: 539 Location: The underside of your ship
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why'd you make this thread again?
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Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:43 am |
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Deigobene
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:26 pm Posts: 1076
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Kara Thrace wrote: why'd you make this thread again? ROFL  Surely so he could compare his mighty slow ranking Rank 4 ship against... against... against... oh... yeah... ummm... I GOT IT! To compare against the other mighty ships who have been playing for an hour and have completed the tutorial. In just a century or two, he will be SUPER AWESOME!!! When he does start moving, I would very much appreciate any of our legion's really tiny normal ranking members quickly removing that silly undefeated title, so he can reset and start again, freezing at rank 1 ...FOR EXTRA AWESOME  THAT will entertain me 
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Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:53 am |
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