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2014 Systematic Harvest: To Use or Not To Use?
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Author:  Annabell [ Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:43 pm ]
Post subject:  2014 Systematic Harvest: To Use or Not To Use?
DISCLAIMER: Before S.Hawking gets all bent out of shape again this year, I was specifically asked by MrSpock to post an updated version of this topic, the conversion rates for Ku per CTP and EM per CTP utilized are the current free market values as determined by the players, the EM per MU is based off of player observation, and the CR per MU figure is based off of an average of three-and-a-half solid years of my daily rewards recorded.

MrSpock wrote:
Universal Service Terminal
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Systematic Harvest
Improves the mineral trade efficiency of your planetary network.
Increases your overall mining production by 10% for 8 hours.
Cost: 40 CTP


40 CTP*120 Ku/CTP = 4,800 Ku
4800 Ku*1502201 CR/Ku * 0.9 Tariff = 6,489,508,320 CR
6489508320 CR / 46750 CR/MU = 138,813 MU
138813 MU / 8 hr / 0.1 Buff = 173,516 MU/hr to break even purely on CR

40 CTP*100 EM/CTP = 4,000 EM
4000 EM / 0.02 EM/MU = 200,000 MU
200000 MU / 8 hr / 0.1 Buff = 250,000 MU/hr to break even purely on EM

Which brings the combined break even point to....

173,516 MU/hr / ((250,000 MU/hr + 173,516 MU/hr) / 250,000 MU/hr) = 102,426 MU/hr :lol:
Author:  Cendant [ Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2014 Systematic Harvest: To Use or Not To Use?
Annabell wrote:
DISCLAIMER: Before S.Hawking gets all bent out of shape again this year, I as specifically asked by MrSpock to post an updated version of this topic, the conversion rate for Ku per CTP shown is the current free market value as determined by the players, and the CR per MU figure is based off of an average of three-and-a-half solid years of my daily rewards recorded.

MrSpock wrote:
Universal Service Terminal
Image
Systematic Harvest
Improves the mineral trade efficiency of your planetary network.
Increases your overall mining production by 10% for 8 hours.
Cost: 40 CTP


40 CTP*120 Ku/CTP = 4,800 Ku
4800 Ku*1502201 CR/Ku * 0.9 Tariff = 6,489,508,320 CR
6489508320 CR / 46750 CR/MU = 138,813 MU
138813 MU / 8 hr / 0.1 Buff = 173,516 MU/hr to break even :lol:


Also factor in the EM
Author:  MrSpock [ Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2014 Systematic Harvest: To Use or Not To Use?
I did ask this to be updated and posted in this forum. Thank you to Annabell for taking the time to make it.
Author:  Annabell [ Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2014 Systematic Harvest: To Use or Not To Use?
Cendant wrote:
Also factor in the EM

What's the current EM/CTP conversion rate?

Also do we agree it's 1 EM/ 50 MU?
Author:  KJReed [ Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2014 Systematic Harvest: To Use or Not To Use?
Annabell wrote:
Cendant wrote:
Also factor in the EM

What's the current EM/CTP conversion rate?

Also do we agree it's 1 EM/ 50 MU?

go with 100 to 1

and yes
Author:  kirkeastment [ Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2014 Systematic Harvest: To Use or Not To Use?
KJReed wrote:
Annabell wrote:
Cendant wrote:
Also factor in the EM

What's the current EM/CTP conversion rate?

Also do we agree it's 1 EM/ 50 MU?

go with 100 to 1

and yes


100:1 is the EM:CTP

1 EM for every 50 Mineral Units is agreed upon Annabell :)
Author:  KJReed [ Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2014 Systematic Harvest: To Use or Not To Use?
hmmm. if i did it right im coming up with 97,967 per hour to break.
never quite looked at it like that but thats saying 44% of your minings value comes from em.
Author:  Annabell [ Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2014 Systematic Harvest: To Use or Not To Use?
MrSpock wrote:
I did ask this to be updated and posted in this forum. Thank you to Annabell for taking the time to make it.

My pleasure. Was already figuring to calculate this for my legion, so just a bit more time to post it here too.

KJReed wrote:
hmmm. if i did it right im coming up with 97,967 per hour to break.
never quite looked at it like that but thats saying 44% of your minings value comes from em.

I got ~102,426 MU/hr to break even, which would be 41% of your Mining production's value in EM.

102426 MU/hr * 8 hr * 0.1 Buff = 81,941 MU
81941 * 46750 CR/MU = 3,830,741,750 CR
3830741750 CR / 0.9 Tariff / 1502201 CR/Ku = 2,833 Ku
2833 Ku / 120 Ku/CTP = 23.61 CTP

102426 MU/hr * 8 hr * 0.1 Buff = 81,959 MU
81941 MU * 0.02 EM/MU = 1,639 EM
1639 EM / 100 EM/CTP = 16.39 CTP

23.61+16.39 = 40 CTP
Author:  KJReed [ Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2014 Systematic Harvest: To Use or Not To Use?
Annabell wrote:
MrSpock wrote:
I did ask this to be updated and posted in this forum. Thank you to Annabell for taking the time to make it.

My pleasure. Was already figuring to calculate this for my legion, so just a bit more time to post it here too.

KJReed wrote:
hmmm. if i did it right im coming up with 97,967 per hour to break.
never quite looked at it like that but thats saying 44% of your minings value comes from em.

I got ~102,449 MU/hr to break even, which would be 41% of your Mining production's value in EM.

102449 MU/hr * 8 hr * 0.1 Buff = 81,959 MU
81959 * 46750 CR/MU = 3,831,583,250 CR
3831583250 CR / 0.9 Tariff / 1502201 CR/Ku = 2,834 Ku
2834 Ku / 120 Ku/CTP = ~23.61 CTP

102449 MU/hr * 8 hr * 0.1 Buff = 81,959 MU
81959 MU * 0.02 EM/MU = 1,639 EM
1639 EM / 100 EM/CTP = ~16.39 CTP

23.61+16.39 = 40 CTP

yep that'd be right.
used 1.44 instead of 1.69 mixing up value compared to the whole instead of value of the combined vs without em
Author:  Chloron [ Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2014 Systematic Harvest: To Use or Not To Use?
Annabell wrote:
Which brings the combined break even point to....

173,516 MU/hr / ((250,000 MU/hr + 173,516 MU/hr) / 250,000 MU/hr) = 102,426 MU/hr :lol:


So you're saying if you have more than this then you should use the buff, and if less then do not use it.
Author:  Annabell [ Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2014 Systematic Harvest: To Use or Not To Use?
Chloron wrote:
Annabell wrote:
Which brings the combined break even point to....

173,516 MU/hr / ((250,000 MU/hr + 173,516 MU/hr) / 250,000 MU/hr) = 102,426 MU/hr :lol:


So you're saying if you have more than this then you should use the buff, and if less then do not use it.

That would be my minimum advice, but just having 102426 MU/hr would simply break even.

It would take even greater mineral production to actually achieve any noticeable benefit from the buff.
Author:  ODragon [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2014 Systematic Harvest: To Use or Not To Use?
A bit late now for this, how does the bonus 4 hours from your daily reward play in if you get minerals?
Author:  KJReed [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2014 Systematic Harvest: To Use or Not To Use?
68,284 then
2/3 the last break even.
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