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wpriester
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:29 am Posts: 67
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When I uninstall or install the different modules/parts on my ship, their position change in the list. Is this done on purpose to increase the time for which the part needs to be be repaired? Seems like a tricky programming tactic, to me, to make us use credits quicker.
For example, when i'm uninstalling/installing weapons or conduits, I like to go straight down the line. Well if you do that, I have to be careful because the modules switch positions, so sometimes I wind up re-installing the module that I had just uninstalled. So now I have to uninstall the module again, doubling the damage caused from uninstalling.
Could the switch-a-roo tactic be removed?
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Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:34 am |
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KxG Ryoko
Joined: Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:31 am Posts: 945 Location: Midchilda Section Six
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It might be due to the parts individual conditions being different? I'm not sure because I don't get this problem, when I remove a module, it stays right where it was (potentially because I use the sort functions in the ship menu)
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Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:03 am |
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RigorMortis
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:43 pm Posts: 2110
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This has happened to me before, I forget which browser did it, but one browser will swap them around when you install/uninstall. It doesn't even seem like it happened all that much, but I know in Firefox it doesn't do that.
I know for a fact that one of the mainstream browsers has this condition, and it's just that browser.
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Wolfy Minion
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:16 am Posts: 2737
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RigorMortis wrote: This has happened to me before, I forget which browser did it, but one browser will swap them around when you install/uninstall. It doesn't even seem like it happened all that much, but I know in Firefox it doesn't do that.
I know for a fact that one of the mainstream browsers has this condition, and it's just that browser. It's chrome.
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KxG Ryoko
Joined: Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:31 am Posts: 945 Location: Midchilda Section Six
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RigorMortis wrote: This has happened to me before, I forget which browser did it, but one browser will swap them around when you install/uninstall. It doesn't even seem like it happened all that much, but I know in Firefox it doesn't do that.
I know for a fact that one of the mainstream browsers has this condition, and it's just that browser. That'll explain why I've never had this problem~
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Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:43 am |
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detregets
Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:37 am Posts: 2637
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i've noticed also when attacking a base or doing some pvp, the listings of the ship modules shift around their placements
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Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:18 am |
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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wpriester wrote: When I uninstall or install the different modules/parts on my ship, their position change in the list. Is this done on purpose to increase the time for which the part needs to be be repaired? Seems like a tricky programming tactic, to me, to make us use credits quicker.
For example, when i'm uninstalling/installing weapons or conduits, I like to go straight down the line. Well if you do that, I have to be careful because the modules switch positions, so sometimes I wind up re-installing the module that I had just uninstalled. So now I have to uninstall the module again, doubling the damage caused from uninstalling.
Could the switch-a-roo tactic be removed? it happens because the way the sorting is done... a secondary sort really needs to be added to sort by module type and then by unique module ID... then the modules of the same type won't change order
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sith squirrel
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:36 pm Posts: 729
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RigorMortis wrote: This has happened to me before, I forget which browser did it, but one browser will swap them around when you install/uninstall. It doesn't even seem like it happened all that much, but I know in Firefox it doesn't do that.
I know for a fact that one of the mainstream browsers has this condition, and it's just that browser. this statement is incorect it does occur in firefox
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:25 am |
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RigorMortis
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:43 pm Posts: 2110
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sith squirrel wrote: RigorMortis wrote: This has happened to me before, I forget which browser did it, but one browser will swap them around when you install/uninstall. It doesn't even seem like it happened all that much, but I know in Firefox it doesn't do that.
I know for a fact that one of the mainstream browsers has this condition, and it's just that browser. this statement is incorect it does occur in firefox I haven't had it happen to me, or at least if it does it's so rare I don't notice it.
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sith squirrel
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:36 pm Posts: 729
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heppens to me at least once every other time i take of my relays or ion pulse balistes and its rather annoying
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:35 am |
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Uy23e
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:04 am Posts: 1998
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It's kinda random from what I see
When I'm about to rank up or pop cube/tri-max for energy refill, i always uninstall my relay in the same way. Namely: go to ship page Click open energy tab Click once on Item (sort by Item) start uninstalling (now relays are on top) The weird thing is, I always uninstall the top relay first, and sometimes it moves to the bottom and I can pretty much click the same place 4 times to uninstall them all. And sometimes they stay as they are and I need to click 4 different places. All 4 relay are of the exact same condition(well, they are not same when i'm half way through uninstalling but that's that)
I do the same stuff every single time on the same browser.... and it doesn't give a stable result~
I'm using IE btw....
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:01 am |
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QCubed
Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:50 am Posts: 569
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The Modules automatically sort by status and by how damaged they are / what their sell value is (same thing just something quicker to notice when they are online)
because of this additional sorting the modules behave weirdly.
I have brought this to Dan's attention and he's promised me that an Idea I put forth ages ago will be implemented to make managing modules and artifacts much easier.
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:46 pm |
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wpriester wrote: When I uninstall or install the different modules/parts on my ship, their position change in the list. Is this done on purpose to increase the time for which the part needs to be be repaired? Seems like a tricky programming tactic, to me, to make us use credits quicker.
For example, when i'm uninstalling/installing weapons or conduits, I like to go straight down the line. Well if you do that, I have to be careful because the modules switch positions, so sometimes I wind up re-installing the module that I had just uninstalled. So now I have to uninstall the module again, doubling the damage caused from uninstalling.
Could the switch-a-roo tactic be removed? Has anyone ever found the reason of why this is happening? I know it is not the case for everyone so it must be a setting somewhere. I have tried several browsers and it was the same on all of them. Also tried to clear the cache and cookies, it didn't help.
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Fandango
Joined: Sun May 12, 2013 3:32 am Posts: 32
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The "Abilities" section changing up ever so slightly is a pain as well, especially when you accidentally use up a charge on a module that requires GP to refill. I'm looking at you, Te'vul's Core.
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Chloron
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:47 pm Posts: 1513
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RigorMortis wrote: but I know in Firefox it doesn't do that. Then you know wrong. It still happens in FF.
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Zombiekiller531
Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:25 am Posts: 135
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Happens to me all the time, but i'm always using Chrome, so that might be the case.
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ICBLF
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:52 pm Posts: 1663 Location: where the dead ships dwell
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Zombiekiller531 wrote: Happens to me all the time, but i'm always using Chrome, so that might be the case. Pretty sure there's nothing browser specific to this one. Certainly happens to me in both Chrome and Puffin, though I suspect recent Puffin builds have switched over to webkit.
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Malevolentia
Joined: Tue May 21, 2013 2:47 am Posts: 841
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Didn't bother to read the thread, so no idea if this has been mentioned yet or not.
I don't think it's some 'programming tactic' or anything to make us use credits faster (I don't even see what Dan would gain from that), but I would suggest that it's simply the sorting order. If you sort alphabetically, four modules with the same name obviously don't really have an order. They are equal, as far as 'alphabetically' is concerned, but they obviously still need to be put in some order so I think the game just randomises it.
Of course, this doesn't explain why sometimes the order will remain consistent; often when uninstalling modules of the same name (relays, usually), their order appears to remain the same. Sometimes, even, the uninstalled module will move to the top/bottom of the list and I can keep the cursor in the same spot to uninstall all four modules.
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Zombiekiller531
Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:25 am Posts: 135
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Also noticed that the effects a ship has sometimes switch around
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