View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:26 pm



Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
 Scrapping bonus for CTP not working 
Author Message

Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:02 pm
Posts: 942
Reply with quote
I started testing a little tonight and sold 3 samples of 50 Lazuli Darkmines.

Yield#1: 123 CTP (2.46 per)

Yield#2: 120 CTP (2.40 per)

Yield#3: 151 CTP (3.02 per)

For the 150, it evens out to 2.6266 CTP per Mine and the description on them states 2-4 CTP (3 average)

Where is the increase ??? First 2 results were exceedingly low and the last one just right on the "supposed" average.

_________________
As of 08/07/2021 treadmillers will be ZEROED!!!


Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:44 am
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:05 am
Posts: 2794
Reply with quote
It looks like a small % increase (I am over rank 2000 and I really don't have that many things to scrap to test this)

Like many other things it is possible that Dan doesn't round to the nearest integer but instead rounds down or more simply just chops off all decimal places.

Go test this with something that scraps for more and you will see an increase.
Why? Because those scrap values are large enough that the % increase will actually result in a larger number

25% increase to 2
2.5
remove decimals
2
no change in scrap value

_________________
Image
Image
Treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
That's meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:51 pm
Profile

Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:02 pm
Posts: 942
Reply with quote
It says 2 to 4 so for an increase it should at least guarantee the average and probably more. This looks like there is NO increase AT ALL.

At our ranks (I am 1754) we get very few items that even scrap for "decent" CTP aside from Continuum Parsers so I will see if I can test out your theory.

_________________
As of 08/07/2021 treadmillers will be ZEROED!!!


Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:16 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:08 am
Posts: 3142
Reply with quote
CapitainePaul wrote:
It says 2 to 4 so for an increase it should at least guarantee the average and probably more. This looks like there is NO increase AT ALL.

At our ranks (I am 1754) we get very few items that even scrap for "decent" CTP aside from Continuum Parsers so I will see if I can test out your theory.

it does increase drops. ive had single drops scrap for more than their previous max.

_________________
Image
http://www.universegenesis.com/bonus.php?id=7704&rofl=1f1616039121f25&lol=72141855&boss=SteelWolverine


ICBLF wrote:
to be honest, I was rooting for you even while eating KVTs


Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:34 pm
Profile

Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:16 am
Posts: 3824
Reply with quote
Sept 3rd

ODragon wrote:
MrSpock wrote:
Scrapping artifacts for Complex Tech Parts will yield additional parts.

I scrapped something that gives 8-12 CTP, I got 11 the first time and 14 the second time; so this is working.


Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:06 pm
Profile

Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:47 pm
Posts: 1513
Reply with quote
Normally 8-16 ctp each:
3 Dark Phase Engine(s) scrapped for 52 Complex Tech Parts
So 17.33 each.

_________________
XxDarthDexterxX wrote:
You deserve a cookie, and earn yourself one cookie point. :mrgreen:


Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:08 pm
Profile

Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:02 pm
Posts: 942
Reply with quote
It must just be my "Legendary Bad Luck" then :(

_________________
As of 08/07/2021 treadmillers will be ZEROED!!!


Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:13 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm
Posts: 8964
Reply with quote
You sound like Plurv...

_________________
Ranks 400+ Join us in exploring..
ImageImage

[20:40] Wredz: just hacked a massive extremely rich minting planet from someone.. thats the best planet i ever hacked
[20:43] DarthFlagitious: is it spearmint or peppermint?


Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:29 am
Profile WWW
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:59 am
Posts: 748
Location: space
Reply with quote
Scrapped 10 items individually and all gave me below max scrap. On the 11th try I got one above max by 10ish percent. Later I tried to scrap around 15 items at once which gave me 10ish percent above max for every item. Tried recently and all well below max scrap rate. Dan math


Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:34 am
Profile WWW
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:52 pm
Posts: 1663
Location: where the dead ships dwell
Reply with quote
stuffybeary wrote:
Scrapped 10 items individually and all gave me below max scrap. On the 11th try I got one above max by 10ish percent. Later I tried to scrap around 15 items at once which gave me 10ish percent above max for every item. Tried recently and all well below max scrap rate. Dan math

Upping the scrap rate doesn't mean that the new minimum must be higher than the old maximum. Overlapping ranges...

_________________
ImageImage


Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:48 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm
Posts: 8964
Reply with quote
ICBLF wrote:
stuffybeary wrote:
Scrapped 10 items individually and all gave me below max scrap. On the 11th try I got one above max by 10ish percent. Later I tried to scrap around 15 items at once which gave me 10ish percent above max for every item. Tried recently and all well below max scrap rate. Dan math

Upping the scrap rate doesn't mean that the new minimum must be higher than the old maximum. Overlapping ranges...


How dare you refudiate Danmath!!!

_________________
Ranks 400+ Join us in exploring..
ImageImage

[20:40] Wredz: just hacked a massive extremely rich minting planet from someone.. thats the best planet i ever hacked
[20:43] DarthFlagitious: is it spearmint or peppermint?


Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:04 pm
Profile WWW

Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:17 pm
Posts: 2224
Reply with quote
We've scrapped items for above normal range. I think the thought process you are using is prolly too hopeful. I have seen parsers dump for 72 which is obviously above board. But like Tree said, a large quantity maybe 'average' or normalize out at what you view as a disappointing modicum which still statistically having reached significance..dependent on sample size. ICB's comment on overlapping value makes total sense as well. Just because things are scrapping for 'more' doesn't put that MORE over the normal cap. Sucky luck is sucky luck.

_________________
Image
Image
Signature created by Necromancer

Spy status_ #1 Cloak master in galaxy
Moooooooooooooooooooo!


Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:55 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 12 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 33 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software.