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kamuii
Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:31 pm Posts: 137
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one of my legion members pointed this out to me earlier today that they found a epic npc, and procedded to share it with his legion only to get nothing out of it cause 3 higher levels blasted the hell out of it.
the sugesstion i have is that the sharer of these types of npcs garantees the sharer a cut of the loot. i mean they found it in the first place. why should they get shafted out of loot for sharing it with other members.
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:46 am |
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Cothordin
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 2606 Location: Cowland
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kamuii wrote: one of my legion members pointed this out to me earlier today that they found a epic npc, and procedded to share it with his legion only to get nothing out of it cause 3 higher levels blasted the hell out of it.
the sugesstion i have is that the sharer of these types of npcs garantees the sharer a cut of the loot. i mean they found it in the first place. why should they get shafted out of loot for sharing it with other members. Because they didnt think first and just autoshared instead of locking themselves in and then sharing.
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:02 am |
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zophah
Joined: Sat May 22, 2010 6:22 pm Posts: 1760 Location: On the bridge of the Vikiera
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This has already been suggested in another thread.
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:35 am |
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Nocifer Deathblade
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 5:48 am Posts: 1945
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kamuii wrote: one of my legion members pointed this out to me earlier today that they found a epic npc, and procedded to share it with his legion only to get nothing out of it cause 3 higher levels blasted the hell out of it.
the sugesstion i have is that the sharer of these types of npcs garantees the sharer a cut of the loot. i mean they found it in the first place. why should they get shafted out of loot for sharing it with other members. You need to join well-organized organization that is more fair on NPC loot system. DOO rule that I added states that once a player locks in the loot, he STOPS doing damage to allow 9 other players to have a shot on the loot. We usually have those NPCs to drop 10 almost all the time now.  If we keep seeing greedy DOO member hogging all damages and prevent max loot drops, we will kick those players out.. If your legion is greedy and selfish and not thinking of you, I suggest you to remove them and get right kind of players that will work better with you.. I don't think there is any need of mechanic changes to address that. Down the road, more and more players will start to learn to work together and maximize the loot return that I'm sure of it.. If those certain players are being selfish all the time, they won't have great future in GL when it comes to NPC more advanced stories and battles..
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:21 am |
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Cothordin
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 2606 Location: Cowland
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Nocifer Deathblade wrote: kamuii wrote: one of my legion members pointed this out to me earlier today that they found a epic npc, and procedded to share it with his legion only to get nothing out of it cause 3 higher levels blasted the hell out of it.
the sugesstion i have is that the sharer of these types of npcs garantees the sharer a cut of the loot. i mean they found it in the first place. why should they get shafted out of loot for sharing it with other members. You need to join well-organized organization that is more fair on NPC loot system. DOO rule that I added states that once a player locks in the loot, he STOPS doing damage to allow 9 other players to have a shot on the loot. We usually have those NPCs to drop 10 almost all the time now.  If we keep seeing greedy DOO member hogging all damages and prevent max loot drops, we will kick those players out.. If your legion is greedy and selfish and not thinking of you, I suggest you to remove them and get right kind of players that will work better with you.. I don't think there is any need of mechanic changes to address that. Down the road, more and more players will start to learn to work together and maximize the loot return that I'm sure of it.. If those certain players are being selfish all the time, they won't have great future in GL when it comes to NPC more advanced stories and battles.. Kamuii personally I suggest finding a solution to this problem, AKA locking yourself in and then sharing, rather then joining a terrorist organization.
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:38 am |
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SpoonyJank
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 7:20 pm Posts: 1178
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True blasting allows lower levels to sneak in.
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:41 am |
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Nocifer Deathblade
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 5:48 am Posts: 1945
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Cothordin wrote: Kamuii personally I suggest finding a solution to this problem, AKA locking yourself in and then sharing.
Heh, it's quite tough to wait for rare NPC to show up in your battle tab in order to be able to lock in before share. It's quite more rewarding to have big legion to share so many NPCs and have nice shot at loot. That's how I max out almost (just 1 remaining core to go) from all NPC loots by able to enjoy lot of NPC shares from other DOO comrades and they locked in just to stop. I also locked in at 10% then stopped to allow other 9 to get the rest. It's more efficient way..
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:53 am |
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Cothordin
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 2606 Location: Cowland
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Nocifer Deathblade wrote: Cothordin wrote: Kamuii personally I suggest finding a solution to this problem, AKA locking yourself in and then sharing, rather then joining a terrorist organization.
Heh, it's quite tough to wait for rare NPC to show up in your battle tab in order to be able to lock in before share. It's quite more rewarding to have big legion to share so many NPCs and have nice shot at loot. That's how I max out almost (just 1 remaining core to go) from all NPC loots by able to enjoy lot of NPC shares from other DOO comrades and they locked in just to stop. I also locked in at 10% then stopped to allow other 9 to get the rest. It's more efficient way.. He has the big legion, his problem is with the sharer not getting any loot
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:56 am |
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Nocifer Deathblade
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Cothordin wrote: He has the big legion, his problem is with the sharer not getting any loot Yeah. Sharer should have a guarantee shot on loot cuz he/she found it.. Maybe once found the NPC, it auto locks him/her the loot even at 0% damage then share and let others pick up the slack?
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:59 am |
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Cothordin
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 2606 Location: Cowland
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Nocifer Deathblade wrote: Cothordin wrote: He has the big legion, his problem is with the sharer not getting any loot Yeah. Sharer should have a guarantee shot on loot cuz he/she found it.. Maybe once found the NPC, it auto locks him/her the loot even at 0% damage then share and let others pick up the slack? No because then the finders arnt going to work for it.
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:04 am |
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Nocifer Deathblade
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Cothordin wrote: Nocifer Deathblade wrote: Cothordin wrote: He has the big legion, his problem is with the sharer not getting any loot Yeah. Sharer should have a guarantee shot on loot cuz he/she found it.. Maybe once found the NPC, it auto locks him/her the loot even at 0% damage then share and let others pick up the slack? No because then the finders arnt going to work for it. Well, finder's keeper? 
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:14 am |
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Cothordin
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 2606 Location: Cowland
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^And losers weepers, if they find it they can do the work, get it down 10 or 33% depending on the mob and then share it.
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:18 am |
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Nocifer Deathblade
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Cothordin wrote: ^And losers weepers, if they find it they can do the work, get it down 10 or 33% depending on the mob and then share it. Heh, at least finder won't never whine if they mistakely share to others only to be stolen of any rewards.. HEYY!!!!! I have EXCELLENT SOLUTION!!!! Let's tweak some rule.. If finder finds that NPC, he cannot share it right away cuz it's grey'ed out. He has to do enough damage to lock it then the share icon will become blue then finally can share!  Good solution, eh?  Win-win situation...
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:35 am |
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Cothordin
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 2606 Location: Cowland
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Nocifer Deathblade wrote: Cothordin wrote: ^And losers weepers, if they find it they can do the work, get it down 10 or 33% depending on the mob and then share it. Heh, at least finder won't never whine if they mistakely share to others only to be stolen of any rewards.. HEYY!!!!! I have EXCELLENT SOLUTION!!!! Let's tweak some rule.. If finder finds that NPC, he cannot share it right away cuz it's grey'ed out. He has to do enough damage to lock it then the share icon will become blue then finally can share!  Good solution, eh?  Win-win situation... It would fix the problem, but what if the finder cant do enough damage and he dosnt want to waste to find?
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:39 am |
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Nocifer Deathblade
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Cothordin wrote: It would fix the problem, but what if the finder cant do enough damage and he dosnt want to waste to find? Right.. Now.. Either way, he will just whine.. Find then share = no loot vs Find and can't do enuf damage then lost it = no loot for himself. Lol.. The reason why I said apparently best solution is finder's keeper at 0% then share and get loot in the first place. 
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:42 am |
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Cothordin
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 2606 Location: Cowland
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Nocifer Deathblade wrote: Cothordin wrote: It would fix the problem, but what if the finder cant do enough damage and he dosnt want to waste to find? Right.. Now.. Either way, he will just whine.. Find then share = no loot vs Find and can't do enuf damage then lost it = no loot for himself. Lol.. This is true, as long things stay the same or become like that though, I dont really care. Its just why change it ATM?
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:49 am |
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Nocifer Deathblade
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Cothordin wrote: Its just why change it ATM? To eliminate ALL whining related to this issue would be the reason to change. 
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:53 am |
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Cothordin
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 2606 Location: Cowland
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Nocifer Deathblade wrote: Cothordin wrote: Its just why change it ATM? To eliminate ALL whining related to this issue would be the reason to change.  yes but then theyll whine about not being able to share because they cant do 10% of the damage, it dosnt stop the whining it just makes then whine about something else.
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:55 am |
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SpoonyJank
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If it is in your level range where you can actually find it, you should be full well able to get 'locked in' before sharing it. They have long expirations for a reason. If you TOTALLY neglect weapons research, you are just cycling through expired NPC's anyways and deserve no such glory.
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:56 am |
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Cothordin
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 2606 Location: Cowland
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SpoonyJank wrote: If it is in your level range where you can actually find it, you should be full well able to get 'locked in' before sharing it. They have long expirations for a reason. If you TOTALLY neglect weapons research, you are just cycling through expired NPC's anyways and deserve no such glory. Well thats how I feel about it but it dosnt stop the whining.
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Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:58 am |
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