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These are ok modules to have, considering that you only get 80 attack for 30 space. The added scan & cloak are pretty much a "meh" factor.

I would like to suggest that they be eliminated from the Base Drops, because quite frankly every time you get one from a base drop, if you already have all 4, its a pain in the ass to realize all that energy was pretty much a waste as you've got a useless artifact.

Every other base drop is useful in excess. Even those pesky Tri-Phase Upgrades are always going to be needed to some extent.

I think they would be better served if they were moved to the Battle Market, at a cost of 150 Silver Badges.


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I would agree. It would also help those of us with crap luck. I've helped down 5 Level 7 bases and I got adumbrate stations in all of them. The 3 Parsers I have at the moment I got when I was below 10th on the damage list and got randomly lucky. Would be much more useful if they were in the Battle Tab: Help those of us with bad luck, help those that already have 4, still encourage heavy base fighting, and voila everyone wins.

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I would agree, but 150 sounds a bit high to me. Slight change idea:

Cost 60 silver, and require having the other three silver mods installed (3 tetras, BM50s, 3 plexus's)

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+1 move it to badge item

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An item such as this works better as a slight reward for those who strive for better things. Anyone can get silver badges. Not every one can raid bases.

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An item such as this works better as a slight reward for those who strive for better things. Anyone can get silver badges. Not every one can raid bases.


Tell that to the people with more than 4 of them. Assuming it is true, someone is at 21 of them. I know I got my 10th tonight... We shouldn't be getting things we can't use. That makes the effort wasted.


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Silver_Stiched_Crow wrote:
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An item such as this works better as a slight reward for those who strive for better things. Anyone can get silver badges. Not every one can raid bases.


Tell that to the people with more than 4 of them. Assuming it is true, someone is at 21 of them. I know I got my 10th tonight... We shouldn't be getting things we can't use. That makes the effort wasted.


Good for you. I haven't even gotten a single one.

However, I do think that scrap price should definitely be raised by a lot, solving most of the complaints. Preferably somewhere around 100-200 each.

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Silver_Stiched_Crow wrote:
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An item such as this works better as a slight reward for those who strive for better things. Anyone can get silver badges. Not every one can raid bases.


Problem is that statement assumes that striving for better things gets you the parser.

This is a decent idea all around. I have 3, but I've helped kill 5 level 7 bases and I am almost always in the top 10 base damagers if I'm online for the battle ..... do you have any idea how much energy wasted that is for nothing?

This topic isn't about the rarity, it's about people getting more. HOWEVER, in going with this suggestion, it would mean you still have to kill a whole lot of bases, but it also helps people that are unfortunate with luck.

Maybe not a perfect idea, but a decent one worth considering nonetheless

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I would have to say -1, Sorry..

Maybe if you have all 4, When you go to scrap you get the Option:
"Would You like to convert this item into an Enumeration Crystal? "Yes" "No" "
"Are you sure you would like to scrap this item?"

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for sure! just because few legions get them in wast amount it dosnt mean that others do, i am pretty sure that there is only few 10's of you who get them more than they actually need... and IMO it will not be fair to rest of the galaxy...
there is just few legions who farm lvl5 an lvl4 bases on day to day basis...
and there wast amount of legions who get theyr hands on lvl5 bases only if someone shares them to fill up badge spots...
all in all its just a problem of few ppl, its not an issue of all players in galaxy

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+1 for me , If i dd not have them all id probaby not agree but having all and then several afterwards it really feels like no reward , I doubt things will change though its all over the game Warp station gives Charge packs after your 20th or so you hate them. its not unique to higher levels just the old npc's we used to have we had a decent scrap value .

Although with bases you spend much more energy its a bit more irritating.

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Is there any way the crate could check and see if you had all four? If you did, then just not include it as a possible roll?

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Silver_Stiched_Crow wrote:
-1.

An item such as this works better as a slight reward for those who strive for better things. Anyone can get silver badges. Not every one can raid bases.


Problem is that statement assumes that striving for better things gets you the parser.

This is a decent idea all around. I have 3, but I've helped kill 5 level 7 bases and I am almost always in the top 10 base damagers if I'm online for the battle ..... do you have any idea how much energy wasted that is for nothing?

This topic isn't about the rarity, it's about people getting more. HOWEVER, in going with this suggestion, it would mean you still have to kill a whole lot of bases, but it also helps people that are unfortunate with luck.

Maybe not a perfect idea, but a decent one worth considering nonetheless


This is probably off topic, but,
Whenever I read these threads about players complaining about base crates, I tend to get annoyed.

I don't get why you are all suggesting that dan fixes something like this that not everyone in the game is able to participate in. Even the "change base drops for level 7's" thread was a bit annoying to me. Why should dan focus his time on changing something that only the elite are able to participate in ( I know you don't need to be elite to take out a level 5) when he could be adding things that all the players can use?

I will agree that he does need to add some higher up content, but a majority of players are not at the high-ranks, most are mid or low ranks.

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Silver_Stiched_Crow wrote:
-1.

An item such as this works better as a slight reward for those who strive for better things. Anyone can get silver badges. Not every one can raid bases.


Problem is that statement assumes that striving for better things gets you the parser.

This is a decent idea all around. I have 3, but I've helped kill 5 level 7 bases and I am almost always in the top 10 base damagers if I'm online for the battle ..... do you have any idea how much energy wasted that is for nothing?

This topic isn't about the rarity, it's about people getting more. HOWEVER, in going with this suggestion, it would mean you still have to kill a whole lot of bases, but it also helps people that are unfortunate with luck.

Maybe not a perfect idea, but a decent one worth considering nonetheless


This is probably off topic, but,
Whenever I read these threads about players complaining about base crates, I tend to get annoyed.

I don't get why you are all suggesting that dan fixes something like this that not everyone in the game is able to participate in. Even the "change base drops for level 7's" thread was a bit annoying to me. Why should dan focus his time on changing something that only the elite are able to participate in ( I know you don't need to be elite to take out a level 5) when he could be adding things that all the players can use?

I will agree that he does need to add some higher up content, but a majority of players are not at the high-ranks, most are mid or low ranks.


The idea behind this thread was to make base crate drops more advantageous for those higher ranks who do pour thousands of energy into a base to get the disable, and at the same time offera change for the non-elite's, in that they would now be able to obtain Parser's without the need to be able to disable a level 5 or higher base.

Its a win-win situation for any person of any rank. If the cost of the module is too high, then it can be lowered to whatever Dan felt a necessary compromise.


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Because the elite are who need this stuff... lowbies and midranks are fine. they have tons of missions, plenty of good npcs, the only thing 'elite' players have are bases. Everything else is either done or sucks. So, while bases may only apply to 20% of players in the galaxy, its still a rank range that needs to be payed attention to. Otherwise, players will pack up and leave when they see they are being ignored by the dev and all the new content is coming out for low ranks.

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Silver_Stiched_Crow wrote:
This is probably off topic, but,
Whenever I read these threads about players complaining about base crates, I tend to get annoyed.

I don't get why you are all suggesting that dan fixes something like this that not everyone in the game is able to participate in. Even the "change base drops for level 7's" thread was a bit annoying to me. Why should dan focus his time on changing something that only the elite are able to participate in ( I know you don't need to be elite to take out a level 5) when he could be adding things that all the players can use?

I will agree that he does need to add some higher up content, but a majority of players are not at the high-ranks, most are mid or low ranks.



The feeling tends to be mutual towards people that think those of us asking for changes are only doing so for our own benefit.

To address your post straightforward, bases suck at the moment for the most part ... the drops are -rarely- worth any of the effort put into them. You're in Ni, you're 338 at the moment, you are close enough that you should be well aware of what is in store in the near future. Do you honestly want to say "Dan, please don't worry about base crate content or fixing things, there is plenty here and I don't intend to go anywhere"? You want new stuff or you want better stuff, right? Who wouldn't? Even if it isn't inherently to your benefit at the moment, if it does not hurt you, but can help you in the future and does help people right now ... why wouldn't you want it?

To address the OP again in response to your post, please explain how this hurts anyone? The Parsers are a rare drop from 5s and 6s ... so you won't hardly get them without putting up tens of thousands of energy (or being stupidly lucky). They drop 20% of the time from level 7s. Disproportionate. When you can gain access to them (level 5s and 6s), they are very rare (4% and 8% respectively) and not worth the time or effort. When you get to killing level 7s, you don't want to see them anymore you want something better/more permanent (like the E.Crystals) ... but then the parsers are 20% chance (too high).

In essence, your post is naive and lacks foresight.

I'm just saying...


Edit: And how are you not able to participate in the bases?! If you're in Ni, you are fighting at least level 4s and 5s, maybe 6s and maybe a 7 or two? I don't know how high y'all have gotten. So, do you simply refuse to get in on bases? Unless you're living under a rock and not participating in bases by choice, I'm not sure why you think this is only for elites ... I know people in the 100-200 range that fight bases daily ... not sure how you aren't in a better position than they are (which would inherently put you in a similar spot to what the OP is talking about)

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These are ok modules to have, considering that you only get 80 attack for 30 space. The added scan & cloak are pretty much a "meh" factor.

I would like to suggest that they be eliminated from the Base Drops, because quite frankly every time you get one from a base drop, if you already have all 4, its a pain in the ass to realize all that energy was pretty much a waste as you've got a useless artifact.

Every other base drop is useful in excess. Even those pesky Tri-Phase Upgrades are always going to be needed to some extent.

I think they would be better served if they were moved to the Battle Market, at a cost of 150 Silver Badges.

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When you were a lowbie you rolled your eyes at guys who complained about getting yet another XRP battery (or crimson hull, etc) while you had none. Now that you've likely had a full set of those forever, you don't want another one. However, you know that those ships go down easy so the dash of CTP you get for scrap is worth the energy. (And when you complain, your lowbies roll their eyes at you.)

Apply that to parsers:
1) You, like me, don't have a full set (or a single damn one in my case)
2) You don't like hearing about people that do.
3) Eventually you'll get them all.
4) You won't want a 5th...
5) AND IT'S NOT WORTH THE SCRAP CTP IF YOU DO!!!

I'm not sure how folks are missing the point here, aside from basic jealousy. I look forward to your celebrations when your 5th parser rolls around and your fantastic ideas for what exactly to do with it.


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I'm not sure how folks are missing the point here, aside from basic jealousy. I look forward to your celebrations when your 5th parser rolls around and your fantastic ideas for what exactly to do with it.

Nice post, I'm glad someone else understand both sides.


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Have them be scraped for 100 tech and only be fond in rank 5 and 6 bases. Keep them out for 7's or more

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