No, retaliating would be against the person who began it Going after their legionmates is the part where I am harassing. And I do it well. As seen by Annabell's response.




This is incorrect. I started targeting CRA AFTER you guys disabled my base multiple times and then bragged about on the forums. I was then spammed by zakawas for 5 hrs (4k+ d bombs) the next day. I continued to disable members. After a couple days I took the weekend off dropped off people's logs. Then went on a badge hunt, hit QCC and he immediately began to spam me, I zero his disables, he counted and I went for other members. MLP spammed me as well and I went for more members. Then 6 of your members tried to disable me and failed...quite miserably. I continued until they fell off my logs/pacified.

Next time try to be more informed before spouting off more accusations. It is a bad habit of yours, you should really work on it. Then again I was accused by not 1 but 2 of your members of cheating during this little fit. Seems the lessons taught in CRA are of liable.

Again misinformed. MLP bragged on several people's comms, your forum post was a brag...you can say it was sending a message and I replied in full. You wanted recognition for the disable, I am giving it to you guys.

NPCs don't make you unable to use a halcyon, they were pvping which is why I targeted them. I never once complained about being spammed during this encounter. Your poor members on the other hand did, several times, to the point I got sick of it and blocked most of them from my comms.

Your sad little legion can't handle being targeted by someone, ironic considering that has been your strategy to gain members. terrorize a legion until people do as you wish. You brought this on yourselves.

Also the spamming began with your base lock. I broke mine before the lock expired but after we had stopped hitting. You guy continued for well over an hour before I started spamming him back. Again you really need to work on learning the events before spewing out lies.

Another suggestion for the one who is being harassed would be you can change your ship name. There is an artifact you can buy for 26 GP at the Artifact Market. It's called Re-identification Contract. It allows you to rename your ship. However if you choose to do that make sure you don't sign on for a couple of days to allow that person who is being the Bully to let their news/alerts on their actions fill up. Then change your ship name! Course not everyone has the GP to spend so it was just a suggestion.

Another suggestion would be you could hire someone to zero your bully. There is always someone out there bigger and badder, you could pay in CTP,KU,EM or what ever you work out. Again just ideas to consider

If you call sitting there for almost 45 minutes with my ship tabbed and eating KVT's every 10 minutes to catch me offline then I guess you were just "badging". Also, get your story straight before you spout off about others. I didn't spam you until the next day when I was home and had nothing better to do than give you some of your own medicine for about 3 hours. Had you not blocked me from your ship comm for telling you to go away because you bother me lol we might have been able to discuss it like adults. Prior to that you were regularly on my ship log. So you can drop the whoa is me I am innocent and they are being mean to me act.

Wrong. I continuously hit you on Thursday/Friday and then on Monday I badged you, you spammed immediately after. Not the next day, but the same day, the same hour. My story is perfectly straight; you seem to be adding time where there isn't any. I have the planet I invaded flagged for a TFO, which is why I broke my calming amp on Monday after being down for 2 days.


EotS had nothing to do with this, I wasn't even in the legion when I began my assault. It is CRA vs WM and I am way ahead.

Also this is all on topic. A perfect example of harassment, I can shut down several ships from playing the game without much effort. Just because I had a grudge against their legion.

I never art spammed when I was going for badges. This was about sending back a message.

Come on you guys. You all know better.

You can only take so much nipping before you knock back

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God damn how is this still going on, since a lot more people than I thought have problems with "harassment" I'll try and make this as clear as possible. This is to no one in particular. Whether you realize it or not there is another person behind that computer screen, and it is amazing what happens if you work out your problems with said person. Don't say I don't know what it's like, I really don't give a #&$#, I'm gonna assume here for a second that everyone here isn't 5 so we should all be able to talk out our problems. So try and put the same passion from these stupid posts into solving/talking with your harasser.

Guys - you all make valid points. But at the same time, lets not lose sight of the fact that this is just a game. If you feel you are constantly being "harassed" playing this game, then perhaps its not for you. There are always going to be grudges, and it is a part of this game. For example, I will CM and chain anyone who has ever taken a planet from me - make them regret ever doing it. Might not seem gentleman-like, but it's part of the game. I am not necessarily trying to "harass" them though - just make them know that their actions do not go unpunished. If you cannot handle it, then perhaps Mafia Wars is the game for you.

Above all we've been through, I have offered to bury the grudge with Nazwreck multiple times. He keeps coming at me and I just laugh. It really is how crazy people can get over a simple game. So if you are too emotionally invested in this game, perhaps its time to take a step back.

-Monte Cristo

I got an Idea that would work and fix the solution in the process. would take a bit of coding, but it would work.

Prevent people from being ZEROED on the battle tab. If they are legion alerted, then fine, they did something stupid and got alerted, zero them.
You can still badge as normal on the tab. R,B,Y. but limited to 1 of each and no more than that. A lot of these harassers do this to pad their stats anyway, instead of earning their hacks and raids to "normal" and "legit" badges and score points. and if you do badge someone they are removed from your list for 12-24 hrs. This could solve the issue and prevent the grief and prevent Stat padders from getting away with their list of Cheap shots at smaller players.

Another way to deal with it, is if you have blocked said player, and they have blocked you then you or they shouldnt see you or them on the Battletab, and prevent any and all dealings with them, and be blocked from stealing of each others worlds. harassment can go both ways, and if there is such a problem that you cant get along with someone then the solution is prevention.
Again, quite a bit of coding for that.

Either of these could work as a solution. What about legion alerts of said players you have issues with? you wouldnt be able to attacke them and they wouldnt be able to attack you. You go to click on their ship, and it would be like clicking on a world thats been alerted for more than 12 hrs. "The Ship is No longer in range..."

Peace Treaty - Stay out of our space, and we'll stay out of yours...
is a BUYABLE artifact from the Exchange that would effectively ban the griefer from being able to see you or effect you I.E. badging, zeroing, world stealing... they cant find you on the Battletab, cant scan your worlds, but it cuts both ways. You Cant find them and cant steal their worlds. THIS ALSO prevents you from attacking them if they have been Legion Alerted!!! You'll get the "Ship is no longer within range" message. If you have been alerted to THEIR legion, they wouldnt be able to attack you. that is... after all the whole point of a PEACE TREATY.
(Minus the taking of FOOTBALL WORLDS like Exotica, but everyone has to put up with grief from that one so that would be the only way that they would be able to get at you, but you only need to take it once and hold it for 8 hrs, and then you wouldnt have to worry about them bothering you again, unless another football is released.) This only effects individual players, and not legions, unless an entire legion bought the artifact and all used it on said player. thats a lot of artifact purchases to ban everyone in the game, but hey if you want to be left alone that bad, it's your wallet. You should have the right to be left alone, if that is your wish, and if you have to pay for the Device to do it, at least Dan gets paid in the process. if this was offered i have a hand full i would use it on, cause some people just dont know when to stop.

There are a few of us out there that are being hammered by a few players that just get off on ruining someones play time over chiildish grudges (Hell maybe some of these players are Children, for they sure act like it) so believe me i Sympathize with Blitz, RazorXXX and a few others i know first hand that are constantly harassed by GL loosers.

Please don't suggest more restrictions on PvP activity. It's bad enough that a TM limit and ship action counter limit exist in the first place. Frankly, if you have resources, someone has the TMs to continually reset their timers, and they can see your ship, they should be able to hack and raid you until your resource points are cleaned out.

and again some of these players you just mentioned deserve what they have coming to them they did it to other and other legions for so long and some1 bigger finally said enough is enough and playing there game on them what they have done to others i had blitz zeroing me for no reason for months on end and yet i never provoked him or any dyso's at the time as for razor we had our run ins and yes they were badge's only we done to each other either i badge 1st and razor just returned badge and what not so for razors issue with some players i have no idea is razor is deserving what razor is getting but for blitz i fully back what blitz was getting he is no longer getting his treatment and after all badgers and dyso's were at war every1 knew this so blitz complaining about something and crying like blitz is doing he has no right to it the 2 legions were at war with each other for how long

Pokerman, i said i Sympathize with Blitz, not that i agreed with how he arrived there. yes some people deserve some come uppins, but there is ALSO a limit to how much they should take. 3 months? 6 months? a YEAR?!

If someone pisses you off, Hammer them for a Week, then let it go! But to consistently target and zero someone from the battletab just cause you dont like them or they pissed you off is going beyond the range of payback. and to go after them for a Year IS HARASSMENT and Bordering on CYBER STALKING! RazorXXX has been hit by a number of people like XxInstigatorxX, OAKLAND and TOPPER HARLY to name a few, and they are some of the biggest Culprits of these kinds of activities. So is Grandis, for i have seen him and Topper both shared up in NI enough times for Multi-hacks and raids that were illegitimately done to pad their stats by picking on weaker players. Granted we had a war with CN back in the day, but people like that dont know when to quit even after the war is over.

So i fully support the artifact i suggested of the Peace Treaty ( YES i am baiased as it was my idea). SOME people can go too far and players deserve the right to take preventative actions against players that wont Stop or take/or make a truce as an answer. Make it a buyable artifact. Hell make it an expensive one like 60-100 GP for it. the high price will discourage the abuse of it, and the only ones buying it will be the ones that will afford to be rid of another griefing ass hat.
The peace treaty is the best solution to prevent harassment between two players especially when one gets out of hand. and disabling and zeroing someone for months on end IS HARASSMENT Especially when it's done from the battle tab. Thats taking it beyond the scope of the game and something needs to be done about this. It separates the two players from being able to see each other raid each other, attack, hack or Invade their planets. It separates them from further contact save for Football worlds like exotica.

And a NOTE TO YOU OUTCAST, yes if they do something to warrant such actions like a Fresh legion alert, then By all means, TM UP and zero them. But if you just zero someone off the battletab for Craps and Giggles is being an asshat and is Stat padding, and for what? so you can catch up to players on the leader boards?! half of them got there on those leader boards FOR Multi-hacks/Multi-raids on the same players on the battletab (stat padding) and not for standard badging. I personally think those kinds of actions are dishonorable, Despicable and i dont subscribe to that doctrine.

You keep throwing the term around, so what is and (more importantly) what is not stat padding (other than what you deem acceptable and unacceptable)?

Some times, i will zero a ship out for planet theft. Other times, i will zero them for the garbage they post on the comms. Sometimes, they will get zeroed just because i don't like the first letter of their IGN that particular day. I do not PvP much, but when I do, i know my ship is wide open to attack, be it from ships that I hit or ships that find me on the battletab. That's how the game works, and there are more passive approaches to avoid getting hit hard if that isn't your thing. Just like I know I am going to wake up every morning to being disabled, hacked, and raided by the same exact ship. If I don't like it, the game mechanics allow me to stop PvPing and planet stealing for a bit and use a calming amp and halcyon trap.

Also, this idea that badging is somehow different and more 'honorable' than multi-hacking and raiding needs to stop. They are both aggressive actions against other ships. Just because some players deem one to be improper etiquette does not make it so.