new Race/proffession - Titan
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Devastation
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:17 pm Posts: 3632 Location: Gone.
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Repair Nanodrones (Uses Left: 1217)
Repair costs are unheard of to me. Anything to do with credits is too OP. I know players out there with trillions of credits. A few billion isn't going to be a con for them. Target something like decks (could be another use for Ship Bots) or Cargo.
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Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:11 pm |
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John Falls
Joined: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:50 pm Posts: 1010
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XxDarthDexterxX wrote: Repair Nanodrones (Uses Left: 1217)
Repair costs are unheard of to me. Anything to do with credits is too OP. I know players out there with trillions of credits. A few billion isn't going to be a con for them. Target something like decks (could be another use for Ship Bots) or Cargo. John Falls wrote: DarthRavadge wrote: -50% to planet defense/cloak/attack would be a way to balance it. Upkeep is meaningless. At 12k mining and 12k research, i can support my ship of 12.6B upkeep. Yet this is still not the maximum, The maximum is 15B what yet i can not support. Now if you take this race, its doubled. this means you have 30B upkeep a day. This take roughly 24k mining and 24k research or more. Then if you take the Titan - Race adpation - Its doubled again to 60B upkeep a DAY. That would take 50k mining & 50k research per hour. You say upkeep is nothing. But if you have 10B invasion (And by the way, thats x4, 40B for invasion) You soon run out of credits. This design of race is powerful, Yet you will have to trade your artifact planets in for more mining and research. This is the downfall of having a powerful race, Yet its still not more powerful than Xecti fixer. If you sit there and think about it, this idea as it stand is pretty well balanced. ~JF~
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Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:35 pm |
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MXer42
Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:06 am Posts: 82
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Honestly players who chose this race will either have super low upkeep (builders, ssbs, low tech tree people), or people who have like 15k+ output....i don't know about you but im pretty sure the people 15k+ mining are more content with their billions or more creds than flushing them down the toilet....imo
p.s. 200% increase would be at your base not what the Titan race would push it up to at 100%....way different numbers
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Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:27 am |
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Devastation
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:17 pm Posts: 3632 Location: Gone.
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Ok, you might have the higher ranks sorted, but what about the lower ranks? If I was rank 200, could I cope with all the extra upkeep?
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Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:54 pm |
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John Falls
Joined: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:50 pm Posts: 1010
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XxDarthDexterxX wrote: Ok, you might have the higher ranks sorted, but what about the lower ranks? If I was rank 200, could I cope with all the extra upkeep? John Falls wrote: Super wrote: It's well balanced if you ask me , but at which rank do we start the chain ? Thank you, I've put some thought into it. Honestly, i would say rank 100 or so. Little players wont be able to take this race on due to the upkeep. Maybe at rank 250, a player can take on titan builder. Titan: 10% attack 10% defense 5% hull 5% shields 5% energy. +100 Upkeep, 3x repair cost (600M), Doubled invasion cost. Builder: -50% upkeep. upkeep should be normal then, 200% Halfed (-50%) 100% upkeep. ~JF~ KJReed wrote: Its only 60b at max. If you aren't an idiot about it though.... drop just quasis, and you are down to half that about.
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:31 am |
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Silver_Stiched_Crow
Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:56 pm Posts: 1403
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I'm on the border about this. I know players like Mojo, Prizmz, and probably most players rank 1500+ that this would have a huge impact on, not for upkeep, but for reasons such as invasion costs (such as 170B/invade), but I'm not sure how it would affect players like me. I personally have an upkeep of 5.3B, and with 14.5k MP and 18k RP, I make about 15-20B/day I don't invade, and even my invades are catching up on me, at 7B a pop.
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:56 am |
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John Falls
Joined: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:50 pm Posts: 1010
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Silver_Stiched_Crow wrote: I'm on the border about this. I know players like Mojo, Prizmz, and probably most players rank 1500+ that this would have a huge impact on, not for upkeep, but for reasons such as invasion costs (such as 170B/invade), but I'm not sure how it would affect players like me. I personally have an upkeep of 5.3B, and with 14.5k MP and 18k RP, I make about 15-20B/day I don't invade, and even my invades are catching up on me, at 7B a pop. This idea would make people choose carefully. Like i said, they can be really powerful. but at big costs. But still, nothing still would be stronger than xecti fixer. ~JF~
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:56 am |
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Virus
Joined: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:00 pm Posts: 55
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Instead of a massive increase to upkeep, since they are a machine race why not have CTP be added as part of their upkeep instead.
And the part about taking on the abilities of other races, maybe that can be an activated racial ability that replaces their usual bonus with the selected races bonus for around 2-4 hours with an 8 hour cooldown.
It doesn't matter if you like these ideas our not I just thought I'd through in my 2 cents.
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Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:18 pm |
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MXer42
Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:06 am Posts: 82
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Virus wrote: Instead of a massive increase to upkeep, since they are a machine race why not have CTP be added as part of their upkeep instead.i like this, but it would have to have a considerable amount...scales to level?
And the part about taking on the abilities of other races, maybe that can be an activated racial ability that replaces their usual bonus with the selected races bonus for around 2-4 hours with an 8 hour cooldown. not to big of a fan of this. the race is pretty balanced as is and if you were titan fixer then you could have titan bonus+race bonus+fixer bonus=op
It doesn't matter if you like these ideas our not I just thought I'd through in my 2 cents.
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