I see what you're saying now. As much as I'd like the hundreds of thousands of energy I've put into a base back, I see no inexploitable way to do it. Would the base go back down a few levels? As suggested by KJReed, what would happen to "bought" energy?

What do you expect, of course there are still hard feelings. What you did was something that isn't forgiven and forgotten about in a moments notice.
I know because my legion had the same thing happen. Despite how much time has passed, or the fact we've recovered, we'll still be mad at Montecristo, just as the Ghost's will continue to be mad at you.
What I'm trying to say is you betrayed their trust in the ultimate way possible, and the fact you were their leader just makes it worse. You've lost sight of what it means to be a leader. Leaders don't have members serve them for their sole gain, leaders are entrusted by their peers with serving group for the benefit of the group. And since GL is a war game, you can't lose sight of that.

So If I jumped over to Anomaly to install a chromatic teleporter to get the medal (which I did), would it automatically remove itself and jump back into my cargo when I returned to Anomaly Elite?

No I helped run the DoO and the Dysonians from day one and we were very successful that entire time.
It's kind of funny that recently it got completely out of hand because most of you decided to do what you wanted to do and disregarded what was supposed to be done for the best of the legion.

Who says what's best for the legion ? The leaders ... The officers put in input and help make the decisions.

You know what you were supposed to do because you were there everyday or were supposed to be.

Priority one ..... Take care of your legion mates, officers and leaders so everything runs smoothly.

I'd say about 50 didn't attack the problem target once. You're not big on fighting and defending the legion as far as I know because you never talked or brag about it.
A member should be proud of attacking alerts and defending it's comrades.

One of the main thing that I kept telling everyone to do was to copy and paste your hacks and raids to show what you've done for your buddies.
Most didn't do that unfortunately.


You want to say that I was overbearing ?
Ok I'll give you that ... when I have to be.
You all had me so upset for the last month and a half for not helping taking care of the problem that I've done for everyone since the beginning of the game why wouldn't I be upset ?

Imagine a whole month and a half of getting messed with right after you repair every single time within minutes ... Would that make you happy and want to laugh and joke around ?
You have no idea what it's like to be targeted by an idiot especially when they cheat.

When it happens to you then you can come talk to me and everyone else that it's happened to.

I've tried to give back the base a few times and it got refused ... I guess you haven't been informed of that.

Btw I'm happy that everyone is happy .. I'm dead serious. It's too bad that most of you didn't act on what was asked and needed of you before it got out of hand.

I don't feel bad for kicking most.

If you know anything about it, I wanted to keep the core of the legion that actually knew what it was about besides bases, legion missions etc ..
Me and Krauzen both couldn't make a decision on our own so we had to boot everyone.

So yeah I feel bad about those guys but it couldn't be done because both didn't vote for it.

I hadn't considered the base until later when everyone started talking about it ...
I wasn't happy and the former legion mates weren't happy so the base didn't go anywhere ...

I've been trying to figure out what to do with it because they won't take it back.

So I came up with this idea ...
It's the most logical idea I can think of.

Auction it...then give the CTP to a random person picked from random.org

They can take it when they wish .. I never wanted it in the first place. The base that is.



The game has gotten better and worse in some areas.

It's better with new content without a doubt but as far as pvp is concerned it's gotten worse for the high ranks.

It used to be that one to five guys could take a ship while they're on but now it's almost impossible if they know what artifacts to type and click fast.

PVP also shows who the cheaters are to other players. It's very evident to the person and it simply makes them not want to play the game.
When one of these cheaters decides to target you for pissing them off, you'll end up quitting if Dan doesn't do something about it or if your legion doesn't in my case.

You can't win against cheaters so there is no point in playing.

No ..

There were a few guys that requested to join so I let some in thinking they were alts etc ...

One didn't seem to be so I've talked to him some. He can leave when he wishes.

No I don't feel bad about it ..

Most left me in Dire straits with a cheater hounding me every 5 minutes if I chose to repair for a month and a half so no, I don't feel bad about booting the guys that sat and watched ..

Well the thing is its all donations, but really this idea is all about Indian givning, you give something to someone then take it back. Thats why I dislike the idea.

Nope lol ........ It will go to an original Dysonian that I trust if they will take it back.

I know that there are hard feelings on both sides but the truth is that I'm retiring ( in the process ) and the base needs to go before I do retire.

If the former Dysonians won't take the base then I'll give it to some guys that I know and recruited in the old DoO days.

Yes there are and I believe you will have a long wait before those ill feelings die back. There are a lot of hard feelings for many different reasons, associated with this issue. First up, it was just an ass-y move to make. I know you have claimed you tried the diplomatic way but I am sure things hadn't devolved to such a degree you needed to do this. Hell these people were your legion mates and if you have a legion like mine, many you would call friends yet you still decide to boot them from the legion they put so much effort, time and money into building to the position it was. I know they say keep your friends close and your enemies closer but come on... Second up. You claimed people weren't living up to the Dysonian way (or however you worded it) which comes across as A) pretentious and b) like a whiny kid not getting their own way. Who are you to say they weren't following Dyso spirit when you weren't even the founder... yes you were the leader, but who's to say you hadn't warped what a Dyso should be in your time in power (which from other posts I have read it seems you have). Finally, whilst I could keep listing things I will try to keep this post short enough, have you ever heard the saying "never meet your idols, they will only disappoint you"? Well that is somewhat appropriate here. As someone who is a low ranker, looking up the leaderboard, but has been in and around the game for a while now, you guys at The Dysonians have always been the pinnacle of the legion aspect of this game. You were the goal to aim for, the model to be copied, the target to which a legion should aspire... yet you shattered that reality on what seemed like little more than a petulant whim. I can understand it when very low legions get disbanded in this manner, but to see the top group get torn down in such a manner was surprising and disappointing, for a group who were some of the elite of the game (not aiming any blame at those that were kicked, just in case some read it in that way.

Tl;Dr- You were an ass to people you shouldn't be an ass to, you held people to your distinctions, not the legions and you acted like a rank amateur, when you were meant to be one of the 'top-dogs'

I can't really comment on inner dealings between you and The Ghosts.

Well that is exactly how it comes across and exactly what you did! If you didn't want to steal the base you could have left, any of the other top legions probably would have had you and you would be rid of those you felt had wronged you; but no, you wanted the base.

I apologise for the length of this post...

These things need to be discussed in detail by a lot of different people before anything will get done.
That much I do know after all this time.

Anything can be written in the programming but it's all about how many people want it done and the time it will take to get it done.

Obviously an attempt to salvage any little credibility that is left. Modules notwithstanding, Ghosts have proven themselves to the whole galaxy by regrouping in a week and rebuilding to level 8 in 3 days. I think theres even a push for lv 9 now. What a feat that would be, to come back from nothing and hit lv 9 before any other established legions do. Fact is, attempting to give it back when the base has been rebuilt to previous level is a futile attempt to salvage credibility. They have moved on and are doing better than before with a mix of new blood of very active players and leadership. In a way, this whole incident only strengthened the resolve and made the group an extremely respected entity in the game.

I am sure it has been discussed but could you not take it and use it for a daughter legion? I know you have Spectres, who have their own base, but it would be a major coup to have three strong bases in the family so to speak. The Phantoms? Ghosts, Spectres, Phantoms... Thinking out loud here.

You're entitled to your opinion but you have no idea about what you're talking about.
I don't have time to go through all of this with you or anyone else about it.

The topic is .................

Can we take our modules and or EM, CTP or Energy if we're booted or want to leave ?
After all each person did earn what they put in it so it's only logical that they should be able to take it with them.

@ Blitz

I think you took ur time and step back and give some thought in this matter.. Right on..

Whats done its done for now.. the fact is GL community strongly disagrees with u and Krauzens decision to kick everyone..but over all we are ppl and we all make mistakes that we can learn from..

In my opinion dont give the base to no one except a true Dysonian..It might take time to do this since most are very mad at both of you. They have a legit reason and as you said previously you have urs..

As for Dan stepping into this and trying to fix it.. I dont think he will get involved since there was other legions that have gone thry similar matters..

No I could care less what anyone thinks about me especially you being one of Negrons friends.
You're probably the one or ones that were telling him everything that he wanted to know.

Negron also has Joe/AfluffyBunny as a friend and I bet you do too ... It makes you wonder.

No the base was offered before it got to that point ......

I'm glad that the guys found some resolve because it was dead. It obviously took a lot to wake up 80% of the people that were collecting and watching their buddies get crushed without helping.
That's pathetic .........
Building and having a common goal is always exciting and I hope it lasts.

Logical thing would be to temporarily give the base to Noci, when Ghosts have decided what they wish to do with it then they could contact him and ask for it to be handed over.

Two things:

1) Leaders are there to lead, not bark orders and be blindly obeyed. They're leaders for the good of the legion - to make decisions, work with other legions, be the public face for recruiting, disputes, and so forth. People listen to them out of respect, because they know the leader is working for the good of the legion.

2) You on the other hand were working for your own vendetta - a petty, stupid spat you had with Negron. You just repeat endlessly that he was cheating, that he had spies in the legion, that he was running scripts, that he was running alts, that he watched when you were offline, and you have proved NONE OF IT. You've messaged Dan over and over and he hasn't found anything either. Dan's kicked plenty of cheaters, even ones that have paid big money to the game. He's very merciless about it, which is just fine. If he'd found anything, Negron would be gone. But he hasn't.

You could have just put a damn halc on and been done with it. Plenty of other people in the game have spats with each other - Nazwreck didn't go around calling us all traitors because we didn't want to fight Monte 24/7.

I tried to tell you there wasn't really much we could do - we can't go delete his ship or smash his computer or anything that would actually make him stop attacking you. And I also tried to tell you that he was a troll, hassling you to get his jollies, precisely because he knew you would squirm and that you couldn't stop him.

You could have just put a damn halc on and been done with it. He would have gotten bored and moved on. That would have solved the problem. But you weren't interested in solving the problem - you wanted 'payback.' You had a petty, stupid feud. The rest of us realized this. The rest of us play the game for reasons other than your petty, stupid feud. You couldn't imagine that the legion was anything more than just YOU, so you kicked everyone out like a coward.

Just retire as quickly as possible. You aren't fit to lead anything, and you seriously need to get help.