it would be better if the rate for halcs would just be much lower, when i had 6k arti production , from 80k i got like 15 halcs each time

Everyone knows my feelings on this. There is nothing wrong with the system the way it is. PvPers want to attack someone, they give up their right to complain about damage to their own ship and artifacts they use. That would be like one country attacking another and then complaining because they have to use bombs or one of their planes gets shot down. So on that note, I think I'll just sit back and enjoy Neo's witty arguments....

Your choice to pvp, your choice to risk damage to your own ship and your own choice to make the effort to get trap probes.

where is the defender's choice to not be attacked? their choice to not have to trap up all the time?

the moment you click the attack button, you are committing to whatever happens to your ship, they are in no way able to refuse to participate. so we trap up, and make you whine and complain that we cost you more than you cost us.

i've tried to be fair with the whole thing, but the pvpers need to understand, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN YOUR CHOICE TO ATTACK so deal with the consequences rather than shying away from the responsibility and saying it's all the halc users fault for being 'evil'

You do realize that just because the krio trips before the halc, it doesn't equate to the person being an asshat and setting them that way? If you set the halc first, and it gets tripped, you reset the halc and magically the krio trips first next time. You guys are all basing your gripe on flawed logic.

I don't see them as being jerks for that, would I personally like it if halcyon triggered on the second shot yes, but I am being the aggressor and the traps are their only method of protection while offline...and they are pretty much useless except to annoy someone unless they don't have a null fuse.

I say no sympathy for the attackers, if they want to set the traps in an order to piss off the attacker, then good for them. If they set set all traps but the omicron to trick someone again good for them, it is apart of the game and the attacker gets no sympathy.

if you mean credits...it only takes about 4k into my hull to hit 200M switching the order MAY save me like 5-10M credits...that is hardly worth the satisfaction of knowing I made them waste a null, their energy and time.

as for a second attacker, that is very rare at least in my limited experience. I think I have ran a halcyon like 3 times since the update on them

Bill just do what i do, if they wish to annoy with the kv/halc then just use a couple TM's if you got them to bt zero there hacks after all if they wish to annoy you why shouldn't you be allowed to annoy them right back.

I've not used a halc since the change. But if I ever did, I would be sure to set the krio first. Not to annoy people but to watch them cry about here in the forums. Sorry, but it is a sound, legitimate defense tactic. Just as much as watching till someone is offline, buffing yourself as much as you can then disabling them is.

Hacking someone out because they did this to you is pretty dumb too. So you spend another null fuse and get youself alerted so a whole legion can dogpile you and keep you at 0/0/0 for 2 days. Yep, guess you win....

I freely admit that I don't know everything there is to know about the game, so perhaps I'm missing something. How are you better defended if you make an attacker waste a fuse getting to your halc than you are if one attacker gets the halc, and then the second later that day gets the krio? I just don't see it.

I laugh at people who act tough and say 'If I get alerted I get more targets'. I'm sure you do that to everyone who responds to the alert, especially the people who could kick your ass, kcik it again, have a break, and then kick your ass while you're pinching at theirs..

There are many ways to avoid the halc and krio duo, pvpers. If you aren't smart enough to figure them out then you deserve the energy and null you lost. Pay attention to who you hit and their stats and you might actually find yourself saying, "I didn't waste as much as I usually do when I assume that I'll automatically get a disable."

This suggestion is basically 'Make the game easier for me because I'm a lazy sod."