[Merged] GTC Suggestions / Comments
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D3m0n5h4d0w
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:22 pm Posts: 140
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LittleNicky wrote: I've won and i'm waiting the items for like 10 minutes. Same goes for the bid slot.This is annoying. This. I've been waiting for like 30 minutes now.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:57 pm |
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n00b
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:06 pm Posts: 226
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oh it definately needs a cancel button on ur auction if no bids has been made on it . just made mistakes on both my auctions :/ one i completely over priced (had an extra 0) other i made it longer than i wanted.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:08 pm |
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SteveMcBob
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 374
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How about the fact that most trades involve either Ku or CTP, and have known acceptable rates makes them easier to use.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:29 pm |
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Cendant
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:49 pm Posts: 687
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I would like to suggest that we be allowed to sell research points on the GTC. I think it would make sense to have the same eligibility that applies to Research Contracts.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:51 pm |
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Clangeddin
Joined: Thu May 31, 2012 12:46 pm Posts: 292
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-1 - Let me send my alt 50 billion credits level him to level 50 and instantly have 90% of all my research done..
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:58 pm |
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Uy23e
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:04 am Posts: 1998
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I'm not sure what the current minimal bid is on an item that already have a bid. If it is 10% higher, then removing the 10 energy is fine If it can be bid for with just 1 CR higher... then 10 energy thing need to be kept to prevent pointless bidding.
The item limit, IMO, is completely pointless.... Why is it even there? So removing that would be the suggestion that I agree with the most. Either expand the number of auction slots to infinite(possibly with the condition of max limit auction only) OR remove the item limit OR allow multiple listing (meaning, for example, selling 5000 shares of 1000 EM and the highest 5000 bids will get the EM. A person is allowed to bid multiple shares at once ofc or it would be painful) any of those 3 should work, share based one is probably most user friendly but heavy on the server load while the no-limit easiest to implement but is possible to cause problems in the market.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:10 pm |
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DaHipHobbit
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:34 pm Posts: 234
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D3m0n5h4d0w wrote: LittleNicky wrote: I've won and i'm waiting the items for like 10 minutes. Same goes for the bid slot.This is annoying. This. I've been waiting for like 30 minutes now. You wait until your resource dump comes in
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:10 pm |
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Uy23e
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:04 am Posts: 1998
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SpardaOverlord wrote: Asheron wrote: 1. Proxy Bidding. Specify a maximum price you're WILLING to pay, so if someone outbids your CURRENT bid, you automatically bid the next-highest increment, and that keeps repeating until they give up, or pass your maximum specified bid.
of all those i dislike this the most, there are already complaints that the GTC, as crappy as it may be, is pretty much for big spenders. by adding this one idea you would make it permanently for big spenders as an action of 100,000 could be proxy bid for 100B, by that point it is no longer a bid. well, if that happens their CR will flow out, eventually trickle down to the little guys which in turn allow the little guys to bid in the future. It's possible that the per unit price of all artifact will go up during this process, but it will eventually reach some equilibrium, it's impossible for a few players to have the CR to consume all resources in the field... besides, there is the bid slot thing, even if you proxy you are limited to only a certain number of slots, u can't rly buy in everything... kellmaster wrote: well, bandwidth would be a problem, for whatever reason. note that dan did implement the "show top damagers" button on base battles to reduce lag. there is a trade forum. (if people dont use the forum thats their loss already) I could think of more but i just can't be bothered, it's late and my brain is going oozy. No dear, that have nothing to do with bandwidth. It's DB and RAM problem.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:15 pm |
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thunderbolta
Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 11:01 am Posts: 5825 Location: Zolar
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Clangeddin wrote: -1 - Let me send my alt 50 billion credits level him to level 50 and instantly have 90% of all my research done.. 
Last edited by thunderbolta on Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:25 pm |
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Clangeddin
Joined: Thu May 31, 2012 12:46 pm Posts: 292
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Uy23e wrote: I'm not sure what the current minimal bid is on an item that already have a bid. If it is 10% higher, then removing the 10 energy is fine If it can be bid for with just 1 CR higher... then 10 energy thing need to be kept to prevent pointless bidding.
I agree there does have to be a minimum bid increase 10% seems high given the insane prices things are going for but yes there would have to be something in place to prevent the spamming of 1 credit increases. Quote: Either expand the number of auction slots to infinite(possibly with the condition of max limit auction only) OR remove the item limit OR allow multiple listing (meaning, for example, selling 5000 shares of 1000 EM and the highest 5000 bids will get the EM. A person is allowed to bid multiple shares at once ofc or it would be painful) any of those 3 should work, share based one is probably most user friendly but heavy on the server load while the no-limit easiest to implement but is possible to cause problems in the market. I could definitely see having too many auction slots causing a smallish game like this to cause performance issues.. only reason I suggested having 5/20 limit to buy/sell queues
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:28 pm |
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Uy23e
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:04 am Posts: 1998
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Buy it now--Yes Removing auction: Unbidded--Yes Bidded--Change to "end now", the current high bidder gets the item at the current price. Seller should be responsibble for any problem in a listing and hence if he want to do something of the sort, he should be at risk of loss, not buyer. Regarding choose number to buy(and a bit on max counts): complete flexibility? NO, that just ruins the sale for the seller. But, with the current item limit thing, here is an alternative: share selling, allowing the sale of a specific item multiple times using only one auction slot. Specific example, sell 5000 shares of 1000 EM at the same time. The highest 5000 bids will get the EM at their bidding price. Ofc, this would also require the ability to buy multiple share at once or it's gonna be a pain to buy. This alllows buyers to have some flexibility in the amount they purchase while not ruining the sale by seller. Thou I feel it would be kinda bad if ppl post 1 item x 100 shares, instead of 100 item x 1 share, perhaps put a limit on the number of share that can be posted (unlimited if the item count is at max, otherwise some mulitple of the number of items sold perhaps?)
Here is an interesting concept: trade coins. Trade coins can be purchased for 1M each, they can be used instead of CR in bidding for their face value. They can be sold at 800k each. So if you sell all the coins you got from your auctions, the tariff is just what it is now. But if you use the coins you get from the auction to bid on stuff you want, you don't pay the tariff. When you bid on things, you will automatically use as many trade coin as you can instead of credit.
Autoextend defintely +1, I think 5 or 10 min will do justice. Not sure if that's in now, I thought it would be = =;
Regarding energy on bidding: Like I said on another thread, only if there is a minimal amount, say 10%, on how much you need to be higher than the current bid to place a bid. Frankly, spamming wont be a problem in that case, the price will go up rly fast and whoever is doing the spamming is just gonna have to pay a heavy fee later, let them.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:30 pm |
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Uy23e
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:04 am Posts: 1998
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It's not 5000 slots, but 5000 shares of the same thing using only 1 slot(slot limit is still 2 or 5 or 10 etc), there is a difference (for example, the game only need to store 1 end time instead of 5000) but yeah, for some purposes, such as storing of bids, it's not a lot different than 5000 slots (thou multiple bid by the same person at same price could be stored a bit "cheaper") so unfortunately it might still cause performance issues... But I rly feel that would be the ideal method.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:33 pm |
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Clangeddin
Joined: Thu May 31, 2012 12:46 pm Posts: 292
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lol .. to clarify.. I was giving it a -1 because I could see where the abuse would spring forth 
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:34 pm |
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thunderbolta
Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 11:01 am Posts: 5825 Location: Zolar
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What's this fuss over 10 energy? Gee, is 10 energy really that much to you? It's what, 30 minutes charge at most, down to as low as 5 minutes. Tell you what, slow, and particuarly freeze, rankers are going to have a field day bidding on random crap.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:34 pm |
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blackfox
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 8:32 pm Posts: 2397
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can you please make a "watch" button
ive seen some good stuff up for sale and it would be great just to ceep track of it
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:34 pm |
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Chris24markey
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:58 pm Posts: 1146
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Dan i understand it is new but it would be nice if you alowed a buy out option.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:44 pm |
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mysterion
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:01 pm Posts: 1216
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Yes please
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:45 pm |
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mysterion
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:01 pm Posts: 1216
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Needs a cancel bid option can use every 12hrs on either cancel auction or bid
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:49 pm |
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Chris24markey
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:58 pm Posts: 1146
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ok next it would seem there needs to be a min bid as well.
SO have it populate the feild the min bid alowed. cuz i just tried to put somthing up for 12k and it rejected it saying i did not set it to the min bid required to post it.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:58 pm |
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SpardaOverlord
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:55 pm Posts: 228
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also if the Buy now option is given, i would like for there to be a system set price for non tradeable items (nulls torpedos and the likes) that you can either only buy x# in a day from Dan, or for players to be able to sell them again still at a predetermined value per unit.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:03 pm |
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