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I think you took ur time and step back and give some thought in this matter.. Right on..

Whats done its done for now.. the fact is GL community strongly disagrees with u and Krauzens decision to kick everyone..but over all we are ppl and we all make mistakes that we can learn from..

In my opinion dont give the base to no one except a true Dysonian..It might take time to do this since most are very mad at both of you. They have a legit reason and as you said previously you have urs..

As for Dan stepping into this and trying to fix it.. I dont think he will get involved since there was other legions that have gone thry similar matters..



It will go to someone worthy of it. Hopefully a trusted former Dysonian will accept it.

Things like this will happen in the future at one time or another. I hope it won't but Murphy's Law says it will.

It's best to prepare for it for the future and if Dan decides to do it now, then I'm all for it.

I need to retire and get this over with.

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Xx Blitz xX wrote:
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just don't be an idiot and kick everyone out the legion.

Blitz, you're unfit to be a leader. If you feel so bad about what you did, return the base to the true Dysonians.


I don't feel bad for kicking most.

If you know anything about it, I wanted to keep the core of the legion that actually knew what it was about besides bases, legion missions etc ..
Me and Krauzen both couldn't make a decision on our own so we had to boot everyone.

So yeah I feel bad about those guys but it couldn't be done because both didn't vote for it.

I hadn't considered the base until later when everyone started talking about it ...
I wasn't happy and the former legion mates weren't happy so the base didn't go anywhere ...

I've been trying to figure out what to do with it because they won't take it back.

So I came up with this idea ...
It's the most logical idea I can think of.

Irreverent. What you did was out and out pathetic and wrong. Yes, Ghosts and Spectres was the result of your actions, but it does not excuse the fact that you stole so much and are trying to worm your way out of it by making 'a logical suggestion'. Grow a pair, man up and accept responsibility for your actions. THIS is not taking responsibility, this is an attempt to get out of it once more.

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Two things:

1) Leaders are there to lead, not bark orders and be blindly obeyed. They're leaders for the good of the legion - to make decisions, work with other legions, be the public face for recruiting, disputes, and so forth. People listen to them out of respect, because they know the leader is working for the good of the legion.

2) You on the other hand were working for your own vendetta - a petty, stupid spat you had with Negron. You just repeat endlessly that he was cheating, that he had spies in the legion, that he was running scripts, that he was running alts, that he watched when you were offline, and you have proved NONE OF IT. You've messaged Dan over and over and he hasn't found anything either. Dan's kicked plenty of cheaters, even ones that have paid big money to the game. He's very merciless about it, which is just fine. If he'd found anything, Negron would be gone. But he hasn't.

You could have just put a damn halc on and been done with it. Plenty of other people in the game have spats with each other - Nazwreck didn't go around calling us all traitors because we didn't want to fight Monte 24/7.

I tried to tell you there wasn't really much we could do - we can't go delete his ship or smash his computer or anything that would actually make him stop attacking you. And I also tried to tell you that he was a troll, hassling you to get his jollies, precisely because he knew you would squirm and that you couldn't stop him.

You could have just put a damn halc on and been done with it. He would have gotten bored and moved on. That would have solved the problem. But you weren't interested in solving the problem - you wanted 'payback.' You had a petty, stupid feud. The rest of us realized this. The rest of us play the game for reasons other than your petty, stupid feud. You couldn't imagine that the legion was anything more than just YOU, so you kicked everyone out like a coward.

Just retire as quickly as possible. You aren't fit to lead anything, and you seriously need to get help.


I didn't even read a quarter of that because I already know what you're going to say.

The fact is that you don't have the will for battle defending your legion mates.
You just left the legion because you got tired of it .. and yeah Negron was in the middle of it doing what he does best.

The point is that every single member better be there for the other or it's doomed.
The people that are defended are happy because the idiot is done messing with them because the 59 others in the legion ran him or them off.

In reality, maybe 5 - 8 will fight for the rest and put their playtime and fun on the line for the others.
The guys that sit back and watch this I have ZERO tolerance for .. It makes me sick.

I answered an alert and hit Negron and the next thing I knew I was targeted. A battle with a guy here and there is fine but a guy that knows exactly when you repair for 12 hours a day for a month and a half is bs.

I kept asking and telling the entire legion to spam the guy with artifacts until he stopped. Nothing got done ....
When a person isn't happy, it will rub off on others around them especially when it's their fault to begin with for not doing what was needed for a fellow comrade.


We need to keep this on topic and get some results ..

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I think you took ur time and step back and give some thought in this matter.. Right on..

Whats done its done for now.. the fact is GL community strongly disagrees with u and Krauzens decision to kick everyone..but over all we are ppl and we all make mistakes that we can learn from..

In my opinion dont give the base to no one except a true Dysonian..It might take time to do this since most are very mad at both of you. They have a legit reason and as you said previously you have urs..

As for Dan stepping into this and trying to fix it.. I dont think he will get involved since there was other legions that have gone thry similar matters..



It will go to someone worthy of it. Hopefully a trusted former Dysonian will accept it. Give it back to Noci just talk to him..Since the rest are angry right now with you..

Things like this will happen in the future at one time or another. I hope it won't but Murphy's Law says it will. Yup you are right.

It's best to prepare for it for the future and if Dan decides to do it now, then I'm all for it.

I need to retire and get this over with.

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Preliator Xzien ............

I don't know who you are or who you think you are but I'm not trying to worm my way out of anything.

I'm going to retire and the base needs to either go to a trusted former Dysonian or a friend of mine from DoO ( The Dysonian roots ).

Read from the beginning to here so I don't have to write anymore ... I've already responded to what you've said.

If that can't be done then this idea would be the best thing for now and the future .... that's it .. period .. done.

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I think you took ur time and step back and give some thought in this matter.. Right on..

Whats done its done for now.. the fact is GL community strongly disagrees with u and Krauzens decision to kick everyone..but over all we are ppl and we all make mistakes that we can learn from..

In my opinion dont give the base to no one except a true Dysonian..It might take time to do this since most are very mad at both of you. They have a legit reason and as you said previously you have urs..

As for Dan stepping into this and trying to fix it.. I dont think he will get involved since there was other legions that have gone thry similar matters..



It will go to someone worthy of it. Hopefully a trusted former Dysonian will accept it. Give it back to Noci just talk to him..Since the rest are angry right now with you..

Things like this will happen in the future at one time or another. I hope it won't but Murphy's Law says it will. Yup you are right.

It's best to prepare for it for the future and if Dan decides to do it now, then I'm all for it.

I need to retire and get this over with.



I've talked with him quite a few times .. There are a lot of you people that love to jump in and flame away ...

This is a suggestion area for this suggestion ......

Let's stick to the topic at hand.

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Two things:

Dan's kicked plenty of cheaters, even ones that have paid big money to the game. He's very merciless about it, which is just fine. If he'd found anything, Negron would be gone. But he hasn't.




totally off topic, but does ANZID ring any bells... hmm.. spends a TON of cash, and everyone and their dog is screaming multi/alts all the time... yet... nada on dans end about that.

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Two things:

Dan's kicked plenty of cheaters, even ones that have paid big money to the game. He's very merciless about it, which is just fine. If he'd found anything, Negron would be gone. But he hasn't.




totally off topic, but does ANZID ring any bells... hmm.. spends a TON of cash, and everyone and their dog is screaming multi/alts all the time... yet... nada on dans end about that.


Not the only one either...

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Preliator Xzien ............

I don't know who you are or who you think you are...

Who am I?
I'm a rank 592 Taltherian Excavator gunning for the 5k raids medal. I'm 18, writing a book series for Galaxy Legion that I plan to publish (with Dan's blessing I might add), founded TAG, has lead Delta Surfers, helped create Delta Destroyers, created Hells Renegades Battalion and am now serving as leader of Spectres at Mojo's request. I'm the guy who's been a leader in legions... pretty much the majority of my 2.5 years here. I'm the guy who's never betrayed my own legion because they didn't help me with a pathetic feud with a guy who tried to get under my skin. I'm one of many people telling you that you are wrong. I'm one of the people who also think that your suggestion is flawed. I'm also a guy who is starting to see a resemblance between your suggestion and the numerous amounts Asheron has made in terms of response to them... And lastly, I am the guy who sees a coward hiding behind a flawed sense of honor because he's too damn stubborn for his own good... Comprendí?

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Preliator Xzien ............

I don't know who you are or who you think you are...

Who am I?
I'm a rank 592 Taltherian Excavator gunning for the 5k raids medal. I'm 18, writing a book series for Galaxy Legion that I plan to publish (with Dan's blessing I might add), founded TAG, has lead Delta Surfers, helped create Delta Destroyers, created Hells Renegades Battalion and am now serving as leader of Spectres at Mojo's request. I'm the guy who's been a leader in legions... pretty much the majority of my 2.5 years here. I'm the guy who's never betrayed my own legion because they didn't help me with a pathetic feud with a guy who tried to get under my skin. I'm one of many people telling you that you are wrong. I'm one of the people who also think that your suggestion is flawed. I'm also a guy who is starting to see a resemblance between your suggestion and the numerous amounts Asheron has made in terms of response to them... And lastly, I am the guy who sees a coward hiding behind a flawed sense of honor because he's too damn stubborn for his own good... Comprendí?


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Not to put too fine a point on it...

what irritates me is that i was an older Dyso than the 2 nuggets who kicked me out

other than that, i really don't care
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could we get back onto the topic as specified in the first post

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Preliator Xzien wrote:
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Preliator Xzien ............

I don't know who you are or who you think you are...

Who am I?
I'm a rank 592 Taltherian Excavator gunning for the 5k raids medal. I'm 18, writing a book series for Galaxy Legion that I plan to publish (with Dan's blessing I might add), founded TAG, has lead Delta Surfers, helped create Delta Destroyers, created Hells Renegades Battalion and am now serving as leader of Spectres at Mojo's request. I'm the guy who's been a leader in legions... pretty much the majority of my 2.5 years here. I'm the guy who's never betrayed my own legion because they didn't help me with a pathetic feud with a guy who tried to get under my skin. I'm one of many people telling you that you are wrong. I'm one of the people who also think that your suggestion is flawed. I'm also a guy who is starting to see a resemblance between your suggestion and the numerous amounts Asheron has made in terms of response to them... And lastly, I am the guy who sees a coward hiding behind a flawed sense of honor because he's too damn stubborn for his own good... Comprendí?


Who is he?

He is someone who will get my respect for his actions in game and on the forums...

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Blitz I give you props for at least feeling some remorse for your's and Krauzen's actions. At this point though a suggestion wont fix what happened. I skimmed the thread and the idea that I like the most is giving the base and legion to Nocifer Deathblade. I don't think anyone can deny he's a true Dysonian and a worthy candidate to receive the base that is if he's willing to take it.

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I don't know who you are or who you think you are...

Who am I?
I'm a rank 592 Taltherian Excavator gunning for the 5k raids medal. I'm 18, writing a book series for Galaxy Legion that I plan to publish (with Dan's blessing I might add), founded TAG, has lead Delta Surfers, helped create Delta Destroyers, created Hells Renegades Battalion and am now serving as leader of Spectres at Mojo's request. I'm the guy who's been a leader in legions... pretty much the majority of my 2.5 years here. I'm the guy who's never betrayed my own legion because they didn't help me with a pathetic feud with a guy who tried to get under my skin. I'm one of many people telling you that you are wrong. I'm one of the people who also think that your suggestion is flawed. I'm also a guy who is starting to see a resemblance between your suggestion and the numerous amounts Asheron has made in terms of response to them... And lastly, I am the guy who sees a coward hiding behind a flawed sense of honor because he's too damn stubborn for his own good... Comprendí?

Also my buddy :mrgreen: Hey bro ^.^

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Preliator Xzien ............

I don't know who you are or who you think you are...

Who am I?
I'm a rank 592 Taltherian Excavator gunning for the 5k raids medal. I'm 18, writing a book series for Galaxy Legion that I plan to publish (with Dan's blessing I might add), founded TAG, has lead Delta Surfers, helped create Delta Destroyers, created Hells Renegades Battalion and am now serving as leader of Spectres at Mojo's request. I'm the guy who's been a leader in legions... pretty much the majority of my 2.5 years here. I'm the guy who's never betrayed my own legion because they didn't help me with a pathetic feud with a guy who tried to get under my skin. I'm one of many people telling you that you are wrong. I'm one of the people who also think that your suggestion is flawed. I'm also a guy who is starting to see a resemblance between your suggestion and the numerous amounts Asheron has made in terms of response to them... And lastly, I am the guy who sees a coward hiding behind a flawed sense of honor because he's too damn stubborn for his own good... Comprendí?


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Xx Blitz xX wrote:
Preliator Xzien ............

I don't know who you are or who you think you are...

Who am I?
I'm a rank 592 Taltherian Excavator gunning for the 5k raids medal. I'm 18, writing a book series for Galaxy Legion that I plan to publish (with Dan's blessing I might add), founded TAG, has lead Delta Surfers, helped create Delta Destroyers, created Hells Renegades Battalion and am now serving as leader of Spectres at Mojo's request. I'm the guy who's been a leader in legions... pretty much the majority of my 2.5 years here. I'm the guy who's never betrayed my own legion because they didn't help me with a pathetic feud with a guy who tried to get under my skin. I'm one of many people telling you that you are wrong. I'm one of the people who also think that your suggestion is flawed. I'm also a guy who is starting to see a resemblance between your suggestion and the numerous amounts Asheron has made in terms of response to them... And lastly, I am the guy who sees a coward hiding behind a flawed sense of honor because he's too damn stubborn for his own good... Comprendí?



I comprehend that you're a nobody that's trying to be a somebody. After playing that long you should have ranked a lot more.
Seems like you took quite a lot of breaks.
18 huh ? You're still a kid trying to inflate his ego. I got your number.

You're not known enough or have pissed off enough people to be targeted to be made quit by cheaters so you have no idea what it's like. All you can do is sit and judge like everyone else.
Like I said earlier, when it happens to you then and only then you can judge me.
The fact that you haven't been targeted tells me a lot. You don't do enough fighting for your legion.

About starting legions everywhere ... I never had that ambition because my goal has been from the beginning of DoO and that was to be the best and toughest legion in the game.
I was the senior officer in DoO ( if you even remember that far ). It was by far the strongest legion ever in this game because of our aggressiveness and our numbers.
We roughly had 250 at that time.

Me and Krauzen made RoO ( Republic of Orion ) right after the legion breakup of a max of 50. Shortly afterwards Noci made the Dysonians and moved on with an NPC only legion with the highest ranks. The lowest being rank 200.

We later helped make KNOR. Knights of Nova Republic with Bender and Razorxxx that me and Krauzen left to those two and moved up to the Dysonians.
Krauzen quickly took the leader position because he was a leader with Noci in DoO/ Disciples of Orion and I took the Senior officer position as I had in DoO.

The Dysonians were made to be a warlike legion because everyone in the game declared war on us.
When the war stopped we kept our warlike ways and took no mercy on our enemies ... none.
They deserved it as far as we were concerned for declaring war on us in the first place.

Me and Krauzen had always rallied the troops and attacked all alerts everyday and night. We made sure that every alert was ZEROED.
We didn't think twice about it either and didn't ask what they did to deserve it.
So yes I had defended the legion with Krauzen and rallied the troops off and on all day and night so they didn't think twice about coming back.

Those true Dysonians at that time know and remember that. The new ones that we had to recruit after the fall of the Dominion to increase our attack and move us higher on the Legion leader board was bitter sweet because I knew that they had friends in that legion that they had left.
Some of those friends were banned by Dan because they had gotten caught cheating to fight us because at that time we were united .. we were one. A fighting force to be reckoned with.
We later lost that and had gotten weak and the other legions sensed it and got bold again.

In the end those friends helped Negron and I have a good idea who they were but I couldn't kick them because we all had to agree on those things. Officers had a say in it.
Despite the harassment that I was enduring, I didn't kick the ones that were in the legion that refused to delete Negron in their friends list .. That was a disloyal act on their part.
Negron was reading every word that was said in our legion comm and our legion FB chat.

I would have deleted guys in a split second when they messed with any of the men.
Mento had declared war on us and I had to delete him off my friends list because I had to to defend the men.

Also Negron was friends with Joe/AFluffyBunny, the worst cheater ever known to play this game. That spoke volumes to me.

The legion thrived for a very long time until this recent bs happened. The targeting of me by Negron the cheater.
Dan didn't do anything obviously because he's still playing when it was obvious to me that he cheated his ass off attacking me within minutes of repairing even though I hadn't hit any HB or him for weeks.
A select few of the men helped but it wasn't enough. It was a problem that only a large part of the legion could handle and fix.
They refused ....

You're flawed because you have no idea of the word honor.
We did what we did because I didn't get what I had given for 3 years. I deserved to be defended for doing it for the legion for 3 years .. I bet your little ship would be laughed at if you even tried to do what I achieved as well many others in the legion .. The true Dysonians. The ones with the warrior spirit. The ones that called the collectors and NPC killers pussies for not helping them.
I backed those guys and told the entire legion because I had no respect for guys that couldn't put themselves on the line for their so called friends.

Btw it was me and Krauzens decision to sink it although I wanted some to stay .. For some reason I get all the blame.

Until you start putting your ass on the line all day and night for your members and move up the leader board, you have no room to talk.

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One point I have to pick up on there Blitz...

You keep saying Negron cheated, where have you provided cold hard evidence for this?? You can suspect it all you like, but without evidence your calling Cheat stands for exactly jack all.

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so he 'cheated'... it certainly couldnt have been the fact that at your ranks, theres only 20-50 actual targets.. nah.. couldnt possibly be that easy of an explanation... he most CERTAINLY, didnt keep your tab open either.. nope, none of those would make sense.

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One point I have to pick up on there Blitz...

You keep saying Negron cheated, where have you provided cold hard evidence for this?? You can suspect it all you like, but without evidence your calling Cheat stands for exactly jack all.



When it happens to you, you'll know.

The only reason Joe/ AFluffyBunny got caught and banned was because when he cheated, he did it to everyone and everyone went in the forum to complain.

Dan pays attention to numbers and one person complaining doesn't cut it ...

The fact that a person knows within minutes that you repaired every single dayt for a month a half says it all especially when I had never attacked one of them for weeks.
You weigh the facts ....

It's the reason I got so frustrated especially when I couldn't get help .. I knew exactly what to do to stop it.
have the entire legion spam the idiot with disarming bombs when they logged in so he couldn't play until he stopped.

They didn't care to do it and I kept getting more and more upset everyday because of it.

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Your sense of right and honor is about the same as if Custers men told him he was doing something stupid, so he went and shot them all.

I think knowing anyone who remains friends with you after this speaks the same volumes to me as you say being friends with fluffy did.

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