well it wasnt a terraformer, it was just a completly new MISSION INTRO planet. and being Sci-Fi, it could happen. i mean there is possibility that the "Extint race" could have discovered a way to manipulate the UNIVERSE into creating things and they could have Ionized enough protons and electrons to create the appearance and radiation of a star. and well if i look out of a window on my ship (which is possible to have one on a ship, if they have the pressure messured out right) id see it, thanks to the light of other stars, and heat shows up on a scanner to. so one of the BIGGEST objects in space showing off giving large amounts of heat on the scanners but no radiation, would make me wanna investigate. but if i find a large amount of heat, radiation, and light similar to what a star is, im gonna say its just a star and leave it be.

I posted the begining mission on one forum or another, it might have been this one.

Cthonian Planet:
Gas planet stripped of the gas
Decreases the size, but gives the planet really good mining (automatically makes it Mega Rich or so).

Rogue Planet:
Doesn't orbit a star
Good artifact (somebody thought it was interesting a long time ago), good research, average mining.

Coreless Planet:
Planet wasn't able to develop a core
Great mining, good research, little or no artifacts.

Carbon Planet:
Planet that formed with a lot more carbon than Terra planets
Really great mining, good research, average artifact

i like the idea of a Roque Planet, but its a wee bit wierd that artis would be on it, since life probly never existed on it. it probly should have passive cloak or something, since its just randomly out there and probly not where someone would look.

The Coreless planet one tho...that one was a little odd to me. like i understand the concept, but one the core is what keeps a planets magnetic force together and brings a planets elements together so how would that form naturally (if its Arti based that makes sense) and by not having a core of any type of metal that would seem like it wouldnt have elements to mine on it. The research makes sense.

If im the only one who sees where im going with this please let me know.

The Cthonian Planet is the wierdest of all to me tho, b/c a gas planet is ALL gas and to strip a gas planet of the gas is like harvesting the entire thing. i mean the lower layers might condense due to pressure but once the gas layer left, that layer would become a gas and leave also.

Gas planets have rocky cores, which is what would be left.

I wasn't sure about artifacts on a Rogue planet; it wouldn't be from native inhabitants, but other species that came later. I can see how it might not make sense, though.

The core of a planet doesn't form the planet; the core comes after the planet is made. Instead of making a core, the metals don't get absorbed into a core and are instead stuck in the crust of the planet or so. This would actually make more sense for having mining, because you usually don't actually mine the core of the planet for minerals, just the crust.

EDIT: I didn't come up with these ideas, I read them all as hypothetical planet types on Wikipedia. I can't find any fault in their logic in any of these cases.

well from the books and educational school vids i watched in the past year have said that gas planets dont have any solid core other than a condensed version of the gasses that they have, which, like i said is only because of the pressure that the other gases are putting on the gas. and without the other gas pressure being there it would revert to its gasious stat. i mean i get you got it from wikipedia, but anyone can get on it.

and i know that a core doesnt form until a planet is established, i was trying to say that by Orbiting the star, this planet would either end up eventually being sucked into the star by gravitational forces and not having its own to keep it safly away, and i know you dont mine the core, but what i was trying to say is that we'd still only be able to mine so far into the planet b4 the Chill factor got to us or something. idk what im really trying to say about the mining, i lack the proper words to explain my thoughts about it right now.

and yea, like when i think of artifacts i think of a race long gone. and perhaps native. but thinking about people who would have studied this planet and left doesnt really occur to me. it seems like a planet being rejected from a stars gravitational field would be somewhat of a common occurance in the vast expanses of space.

Actually, that they have cores wasn't something I got from Wikipedia, but something I was taught (though Wikipedia says it as well). Sorry, but from my point of view, trusting you on this is no different from trusting Wikipedia; I don't know you any better than I know who wrote that on there. But to the point, I learned they had solid cores when I was in school, but that was admittedly not in the past year (a good deal longer ago, in fact).

EDIT: I didn't read this whole paper, just the summary, so I could be missing something, but here's the link: http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0312384

I don't know that not having a magnetic field would cause a planet to be pulled into the sun; planets stay away from the sun because of their orbit due to gravity, I don't think the magnetic field has anything to do with that. As far as I know, the only real benefit of the magnetic field is protecting us from the solar wind (which could somehow be worked into the planet's stats, perhaps). And the whole point is you don't need to go deep into the planet to get the metals, because they didn't sink into the core. As far as I know, the only real benefit of the magnetic field is protecting us from the solar wind (which could somehow be worked into the planet's stats, perhaps).

I can cede the point on artifacts on a Rogue planet, they could just be Barren planets basically.

EDIT: Actually, it could be fun if they are just really random planets, anywhere from not having a resource to being 48x in it, anything from Very Tiny to Very Massive.

Look, wikipedia's science pages are extremely well protected. They are maintained and edited and usually written by science grad students or professors. they site sources left right and center. Wikipedia isn't just sometimes right. 99.99% of the time it's extremely accurate, especially on well established pages. Gas planets have, according to the latest scientific theory, rocky cores, surrounded by metallic gases (i.e. gasses so compressed that they take on the qualities of liquid metals.) There are two conflicting theories about active planet cores however. The common one says that active planets have magnetic cores of nickle-iron. The rival theory says that active planets have nuclear cores (uranium fusion reactors) surrounded by a shell of nickle-iron. Iron is incredibly common, since it's the end product of standard stellar production, but since higher order elements (formed in supernovae) are found naturally on earth, it's a good bet that the super dense ones like uranium and iridium and osmium would be more common in the core than on the surface. The same is likely true of the gas giants, at least in our star system.

@Devinsimps, generally it's a better idea to check your facts on a site like wikipedia than to trust in how much you remember about a discovery channel show you watched a few months back. In general, it's better to trust even a sometimes suspect source of information than to rely on your own memory of things unless you are an expert on the topic. Of course, you could always check the sited sources for a Wikipedia article too if you think maybe someone edited it incorrectly.

well i was jjust rereading my notes from My Astronomics Class a couple months ago, so i was just repeating a mixture of a video the proffessor showed us and his own theories. and even to an extent i was right about the compression of the gases to where they would take on a liquid like form. now, this part is just theory built upon that theory, but if it condenses to the point of Liquid metal like state, then couldnt it Condense even further to that solid rocky state? and when the pressure of the upper layer of gases leave it would cause a chain of events that would make the Liquid layer change to gasses and the solid rock layer become a Liquid layer, due to lack of pressure?

you have a point

Heres an old one I just remembered from some where.

A Binary Planet: Two planets spinning around each other with a small natural path way connecting the two.

I tried to find an image for this but there are non on the web.

I just looked around and the Gas-to-Plasma Planet transformer is in the CT Lab! I don't know if this was made before this post or if I had made the idea come to life.

For those who don't know, just look at "Strategy" then "Collective Theory Lab Creations" at page 6. Does anyone have a reference that Plasma Planets were made by my topic? Might as well PM Dan.

Edit: Might as well as put new transformers in here:

(Can be rewarded in missions or CT Lab)

List of More Planets to be Upgraded: (My opinion)
Icy
Volcanic

Icy Planets:
Only had one transformer and that is the Mass Surface Melter.

Artifact: Modified Absolute Zero
Effect: Turns an Icy Planet into a Quantum Nebula Planet, increasing size by 1 and all resources by 3.
Pic:

Imagine a planet in the middle of this.

Volcanic Planets:
Already have a transformer for Demon Planets. Why not another one that's easier?

Artifact: Vulcan's Cooldown
Effect: Turns a Volcanic Planet into an Extinct Planet, increasing size +2 and all resources +2.

What do you think?

I had an idea for a blue print that might be workable.

Virus Capsule
10 Krionus Virus Traps
10 Planetary Time Vortex's
20 Nanite Swarms
Description:
These nanites have been infected with a modified Krionus Virus to make them hostile to any organic creature, given enough time they will completely devastate a planets population.

Not usable on Oceanics and Icy planets due to short circuiting and freezing of nanites. Turns all other planets into a Toxic keeping it the same size but increasing the Mining by anywhere from 2-4 while killing all population for a certain amount of time.
I was thinking that the more of a population there is the better the chance of getting a higher mining bonus.

I know this needs some work so please comment and add to the idea.

I think that there should be a terraformer that allows you to repair all the old technology instead of stripping the planet bare. You should get something special from the planet. It should be called something like a Revived Planet.

No. Because gasses don't compress into rocks. Pressure never makes a liquid or gas into a solid. At megapressures gasses become superfluids, having the properties of liquids and gasses at the same time. some elements have a triple point where the solids, liquids and gasses exist at the same time, but they are a) very rare and b) not usually found in the superheated cores of Gas Giants.

I just wanted to comment on the idea about Rogue Planets. On the Discovery Website, an article was posted that says scientists now believe Rogue Planets are just as common as Gas Planets and Barren Planets. They said Gas Giants and Mercury like, but it's the same thing.

Mission: The Remanents
[Your race], We have discovered the remanents of a destroyed planet to be rich in Minerals, but the minerals have molocules never seen by the Galactic Council. Get your Science team to scan these new molocules.

Mission: Reconstruction
These molocules seem to be able to reproduce rapidly. They have already constructed a small fraction of the planet. Do what you can to speed up this process.

Mission: The Completion
We have a way to complete the planet instantly. We just need exotic matter and Dark matter from Dark Mineral Astroids. This will make a new mining planet formed completely of Astroids

Note: This is not a barren planet, these minerals make the size bigger and richer than ever before. I dont know what to call the planet. Want a new type of planet though.

Yeah, they could be made Common, but their stats could be anything (weighted more heavily toward the low end of the planet spectrum, but still possibly really great).

I'm kinda surprised Dan would dismiss a GOLD planet..... it is the most valuable metal here on earth.... o and platinum...

How about a Crystal Skull planet, a pure research planet ( some say the real crystal skulls found could hold tons of data... it's just the extracting of it ???/? who knows but it sounds hella sci-fi to me)

My planet transformer idea for a metallic planet.

This planet transformer is about a mission, sending a team of preprogrammed planet terraformers, engineering automatons and advanced A.I robots to a metallic planet and see if they can randomly change the planet into something more productive.

Requirements: The formula for the artifact appears in the Collective Theory Labs when the legion has completed at least 10 breakthroughs.

Cybernetic Manifester
Requirements: Complex Tech Parts (100), Tesseract Containers (100), Android Scientists (20)

Results - transforms a metallic planet into a Metamorphic Planet (90% chance) or a Cybernetic Planet (10% chance).

Metamorphic Planet
(random increase in planet stats)
[a metamorphic planet is just like a giant factory but no biological beings operate it. Its landscapes are filled with landfills but are continuously changed by its automatons. Everything is recycled including the machineries and are changed to other types of machines all over again. Production from the planet is obtained by hacking its AI supercomputers to divert productions out of the planet.]

Planet size either remains the same or increases by 1.
Mineral production increase by 1 to 3.
Research production increases by 1 to 3.
Adds 0 to 300 mineral, artifact or research storage

Cybernetic Planet
(random increase in planet stats but better stats than metamorphic planet)
[All variables converged into a favorable condition resulting in a cybernetic planet. The planetary magnetic core is activated but seismic activities fully controled. Microscopic lifeforms emerge. The planet develops a stable atmosphere but planetary weather fully controlled. The planet becomes an ideal artificial habitat for sentient beings. The planet has fully functioning bodies of water including their subterranian counterparts and even some that are located at the top of skyscrapers or suspended in the atmosphere. All designed by automatons and their planetary A.I. From space the planet looks dark luminescent metallic blue/green with well defined geometric patterns due to lights from skycrappers and reflective bodies of water with metal sea floors.]

planet size increase by 1 to 3.
mineral, artifact and research production increase by 2 to 4.
Adds 100 to 1000 mineral, artifact or research storage.

Limit: each player can create only two cybernetic planets, all subsequent attemps will always result in a metamorphic planet.

We have demon planets, why not angelic?

Terraformer: Holy Cleanse Emitter (name needs work)
CT lab discoverery.
Req. 5 tri matrix, 20 calming amps, 20 positron clouders.

Transforms and Oceanic planet into an Angelic Planet.
Increases size by 1, resources by 2.
Adds 900 passive cloak.

Stats should be just as good as Demon, so let me know if they need upgrading.