Leader , Officer and NCO's in Legion
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Xx Blitz xX
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 3:55 pm Posts: 629
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Double tap wrote: Bottom line, the dysonians whine about something to twist the game to their advantage, Dan does it because they spend lots of money and they blackmail him into doing it by threatening to quit giving him money. therefore, nothing anyone else says or thinks matters. I realize Dan made this game to make money not just to have fun, but, it's gotten asinine kinda killing the fun. lol you are hilarious. This thread was made so it could benefit the entire game and give all legions in the game more options and add to it. Every legion doesn't have to use the tier if it's added but that doesn't mean that you have to ruin it for everyone else. So if I made this thread to benefit everyone , how am I whining to twist the game to our advantage ? We aren't the only legion that spends money anymore. That changed a long time ago if you haven't noticed. It's a good thing too. It gives more people to fight at all ranks now and gain more badges. omg lol .. Blackmail ? You're completely out of line saying that. Dan does what he wants to do and makes his own decisions for his own reasons. In fact I ask you Dan to come in here and comment on that .. The hatred of us must be that bad to accuse the creator of the game of such nonsense.
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Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:36 am |
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Xx Blitz xX
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 3:55 pm Posts: 629
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XlothairmilitiaX wrote: I kinda like the idea....spread out some of the responsibilities for the officers and leaders. you could use the NCO position to get new members up to speed on your legion policies, like a sergeant in boot camp....kinda like a training thing for new members. prob lots of other ideas you could use for the NCO position, Even better if all of the leader and officer positions were customizable, you could delegate what leaders and officers could do in a legion. Senior officers would have more responsibliities than a lower ranking officer, etc etc...and of course you can do this with the NCO position. the whole thing about the red badge burden is because there are too many traps in the game. All the high level players will always have lots of traps to use. so you have to use the nulls to get through them. let me see blitz, what was that you put on my comm after i badged several of your legion? 3 days, 8 hours ago From: Xx Blitz xX yep .. do it up . Youll run out of nulls again .. you aint **** without nulls .. youre getting messed up. <--seriously is this how grown men act over a video game? oh by the way blitz, i have NO PROBLEM getting badges from the dysonians. your legion is about to get me my 2nd level III cannon Thanks! with love, Lothairmilitia Hey no problem at all. But there is a price getting your red badges as you know by now. yeah emotions can run high at times so a grown man can be human after all. It doesn't help when you try to upset people by running your mouth so that's why I blocked you on my comm. I don't need someone talking smack to me to get a rise out of me. It's best to act and talk less in my experience. I'm not out to ruin peoples day but right now I am out for red badges to scan for bases and to save some to get my Mk III cannons. It's not easy. I'm not a fan of yours but I do like that you can see the idea for what it is without all of the nonsense of some of the others in your legion had said. I also like to see that you have your own mind and opinion and aren't easily influenced. See you on the battlefield.
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Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:43 am |
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xSheDevilx
Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:25 am Posts: 72
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yep i agree a great idea... +1 
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Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:18 am |
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William Murphy
Joined: Sun May 23, 2010 11:02 am Posts: 191 Location: Shalimar, Florida
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I dont really Care in all honesty. But what i do care about is People who offer up an opinion, and voice that opinion, and they get banned from the Forum for no real good reason.
As for the Idea, Yawn. Who cares. As Scotty said in Star Trek III: "the more you advance the plumbing the easier it is to clog the pipes".
If you cant trust someone to do their job as an officer, THEN DONT PROMOTE THEM! "Oh they deserve the status cause of how long they been there..."
No they dont. This is NOT a popularity contest. It's Legion Defense, and if someone can't be trusted to do the job that you have assigned them, then demote them and get someone that can do the job, and Understanding what that job is. All it takes is a high school education and the ability to follow instructions. Personal Sleeve Stroking is Irrelevant.
My Dad was in Maintenance. He was fond of saying "if it ain't broke, dont fix it."
The idea Blitz made (while i see why he made it) can already be done with the system in place. Hence it's not broke so theres no reason to fix it.
As for all this extra baggage and Drama and crap that you ladies love to Sling... Save that drama for your mama!
If you guys cant get along on the suggestion boards, then just avoid each other all together, and settle your crap in the game. How bout that. There are those of us that are tired of hearing the Crap slinging ON BOTH SIDES!
So give it a rest why dont you all?
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Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:40 pm |
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ExSeaD
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:43 pm Posts: 494
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Xx Blitz xX wrote: Double tap wrote: Bottom line, the dysonians whine about something to twist the game to their advantage, Dan does it because they spend lots of money and they blackmail him into doing it by threatening to quit giving him money. therefore, nothing anyone else says or thinks matters. I realize Dan made this game to make money not just to have fun, but, it's gotten asinine kinda killing the fun. lol you are hilarious. This thread was made so it could benefit the entire game and give all legions in the game more options and add to it. Every legion doesn't have to use the tier if it's added but that doesn't mean that you have to ruin it for everyone else. So if I made this thread to benefit everyone , how am I whining to twist the game to our advantage ? We aren't the only legion that spends money anymore. That changed a long time ago if you haven't noticed. It's a good thing too. It gives more people to fight at all ranks now and gain more badges. omg lol .. Blackmail ? You're completely out of line saying that. Dan does what he wants to do and makes his own decisions for his own reasons. In fact I ask you Dan to come in here and comment on that .. The hatred of us must be that bad to accuse the creator of the game of such nonsense. you know the dysonian whined about sending null fuse so dan made it unsendable. I personally had no problem with it.
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Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:45 pm |
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Double tap
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:57 pm Posts: 108
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So you are denying that when Noci announced that he and the Dysonians were going to withhold buying galaxy points unless certain people were removed from the game , they weren't? I remember something different. And Yeah, If you remember when the Dysonians were created I shared my dislike for their leader ( you and I were in the DOO offshoot Legions at that time, you stayed out of Dysonians for a long time so you may not remember it)
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Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:00 pm |
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Xx Blitz xX
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 3:55 pm Posts: 629
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Double tap wrote: So you are denying that when Noci announced that he and the Dysonians were going to withhold buying galaxy points unless certain people were removed from the game , they weren't? I remember something different. And Yeah, If you remember when the Dysonians were created I shared my dislike for their leader ( you and I were in the DOO offshoot Legions at that time, you stayed out of Dysonians for a long time so you may not remember it) No he said that we weren't supporting cheating in anyway shape or form. What's the point of playing when players can add many spaces on their planets for more resources than anyone else and stack their ships with made artifacts to make their hull bigger , shields higher and crew larger so it's easy to raid and prevent from being raided when the rest of us are doing it the right way for a year ? So no we don't support cheating and Noci did what he thought was right. If you have a problem with that then maybe you need to go play another game where cheating is tolerated. No I don't remember you from back then and me , Krauzen and Bender created RoO when Noc went on vacation because some of us wanted to have our own identity like each state in the USA. We wanted to be the Republic of Orion as a state of DOO while the other 4 legions could be DOO1 through DOO4. We didn't want to be another number that 's all. I didn't move up to the Dysonians until Krauzen got to rank 200. Back then the cut off point was 200 + to get in the premier legion that Noc later named Dysonians. He didn't want to babysit 5 legions and deal with the drama of it all when he could deal with one. It was a good move and me and Krauzen moved up when we were bored in RoO from most of the people we knew were gone. We got our leader and officer status back and it worked out well .. That's your history lesson for the GL class for the day.
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Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:43 pm |
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LordKrauzen
Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 4:52 pm Posts: 25
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@ Murphy, I don't know what BS you've been fed but individuals don't get banned for voicing their opinion, they get banned for demoralizing other players, provoking them to start flame wars, and simply acting immature by calling them names. I totally agree that the forums should be drama free and anyone trying to start that kind of immature antics should be banned from the forums.
@double tap and exceed, this discussion is about an improvement in the game system, if you want to rant on how life isn't fair do it in the pub. This subject is strictly about everyone's thoughts on this improvement, anything else would be deemed inappropriate. I hope you both realized you just broke two of the forum rules by adding your unnecessary comments.
- Threads should stay on topic. Replies added should stay in context of the original thread. (no thread-jacking)
- Users may not argue or discuss a moderators decision publicly. Poster must discuss the issue with the moderator in question via PM. If a resolution cannot be resolved there, it will be taken up by the forum admin for a final decision.
As for my personal opinion on this subject, I'f anyone cant find a VALID reason NOT to implement this upgrade due to the fact that will significantly bring down the overall quality of the game, I don't see any reason NOT to implement it.
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Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:51 pm |
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Xx Blitz xX
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 3:55 pm Posts: 629
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ExSeaD wrote: Xx Blitz xX wrote: Double tap wrote: Bottom line, the dysonians whine about something to twist the game to their advantage, Dan does it because they spend lots of money and they blackmail him into doing it by threatening to quit giving him money. therefore, nothing anyone else says or thinks matters. I realize Dan made this game to make money not just to have fun, but, it's gotten asinine kinda killing the fun. lol you are hilarious. This thread was made so it could benefit the entire game and give all legions in the game more options and add to it. Every legion doesn't have to use the tier if it's added but that doesn't mean that you have to ruin it for everyone else. So if I made this thread to benefit everyone , how am I whining to twist the game to our advantage ? We aren't the only legion that spends money anymore. That changed a long time ago if you haven't noticed. It's a good thing too. It gives more people to fight at all ranks now and gain more badges. omg lol .. Blackmail ? You're completely out of line saying that. Dan does what he wants to do and makes his own decisions for his own reasons. In fact I ask you Dan to come in here and comment on that .. The hatred of us must be that bad to accuse the creator of the game of such nonsense. you know the dysonian whined about sending null fuse so dan made it unsendable. I personally had no problem with it. No I don't recall that and we don't whine. We make statements and suggest ideas. You should do the same and see how it feels when you get called a whiner. I made a suggestion to Dan about the KV trap should be nulled when we fight NPC's like the H / halcyon trap is. It makes no sense to attack npc's while our attack is down 90% from a pvp part of the game just like the it makes no sense to not be able to attack npc's with a Halc. For some reason the H trap got nulled but the KV didn't. During that thread after debating for pages Frick came up with the idea of the Null fuse when I was just trying to make the KV trap go away when we attacked npc's. Noci made a comment that TM's / Time Manipulators should be made not tradable because AFluffyBunny was making them at the time and zeroing out legions by himself all day everyday and using a bot to collect his resources so nobody could retaliate back. At the time making TM's non tradable was a good idea because of Fluffy's cheating. He got caught and now there is no need to change that part of the game.
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Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:54 pm |
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Xx Blitz xX
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 3:55 pm Posts: 629
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Now lets get off this Galaxy Pub drama stuff and get back into the idea part of it where it belongs.
I never said that this current Leader and Officer system was broke but I did say that it could be enhanced. If the Sergeant upgrade is implemented , people that don't want to use it don't have to but there are quite a few legions that do want it and said so in the beginning of the thread.
Anymore suggestions on the possible powers of the NCO / sergeant system if Dan includes it in the game ?
I mentioned that they could help run the base , help keep the legions in order and organize attacks on bases and enemy ships. When helping with the base I mean they could share their red badges for the scans for those of us that don't want a bunch of leaders and officers in our legions.
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Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:09 am |
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bobsmith
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 521
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I'm not about to read this entire thread. I know it's full of drama and nonsense. This is a suggestion thread, not a drama thread, the off topic comments have become too much of late.
I'm sticking purely with the original idea and ignoring all else. It's a good idea, it promotes diversity within a legion, it allows growth and improvement within the ranks. There is no reason to even stop at one additional rank, you could certainly have various ranks that could be assigned by leaders. They could represent special duties, or long term members, valuable pvpers etc. It could be whatever you wanted it to be.
I don't see a downside to this, it gives leaders of every legion the option to fit their legion to their own needs.
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Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:46 am |
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mitzelplix
Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:32 pm Posts: 119
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The only real downside I can see to this suggestion (if i may play the role of devils advocate) is that it will draw attention away from some of the other real issues already in the game. I can only image the enormity of making base combat come to life and what is still left to do to satisfy all of us...let alone address all the other issues most of us know about. With that said here are a few ideas...
1) I like the idea of not only having NCO's but also ranks for officers. If we are asking for a restructured system, please do it so its not in a cookie cutter format. Allow the senior staff to determine all rank positions limitations and responsibilities on a legion to legion basis.
2) Make the position as real as possible...have a set chain of command with additional drop down boxes when it comes to permissions...IE: rank x and above can give permissions to do x action when it comes to base actions. Especially when it comes to locking enemy bases.
3) Possibly give NCO's and Officers special bonus's based on performance of duties...such as all officers having researched to a the level of necessary to donate to the base and in return gaining a % bonus toward RP/AP or MP. Possibly giving NCO's an attack bonus for a better combat rep or a better chance to score more npc shares...the possibilities are endless.
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Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:00 am |
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bobsmith
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 521
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The retort that there are "more important matters" to attend too is never a valid reason to not make a suggestion. The forums aren't going anywhere, they can implement things in whatever order they want. We just provide the ideas, Dan can use them when he wants.
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Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:43 am |
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mitzelplix
Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:32 pm Posts: 119
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more important matters? did I just make that comment somewhere boob or are ya just picking a fight
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Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:51 pm |
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Oggie
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:25 am Posts: 77
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bump
Those against the idea, well, just dont use it if it were to come about.
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Daunte
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:39 am Posts: 1118 Location: Im My Captains Chair!
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+1 to this idea it would be cool
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