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Ability to set a Specific Research Level for Bases
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ZeroEither
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:37 pm Posts: 255
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Ok heres the gist of the idea, basically being able to SET the required level of Base Research IE: In order to receive the Base Bonus you can set it so they HAVE to have AI Logistics Researched in order to get the Bonus's, that sorta thing, its just an Idea, I think its a rather smashing idea.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:13 pm |
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235drew
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:11 pm Posts: 883 Location: invading your planet
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ikinda like it, gives people a reason to research
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:14 pm |
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RavenDark13
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:01 am Posts: 571 Location: Hudson County, NJ, USA
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Would make it fair. No bottom feeders. Couple that with the percentage resource divider and everyone will get a fair share. In theory, anyway.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:17 pm |
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ZeroEither
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:37 pm Posts: 255
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Thats what i'm sayin and this way the people who have already researched it dont lose anything, and it gears the people who arnt researching into the base to actually participate and research it and what not.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:17 pm |
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Joshball98
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:33 am Posts: 2519 Location: Behind you
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A rather smashing fail. You get the base bonus as long as its distributed evenly. You dont need the research. I think its a horrible Idea just limits bases. Why would any legion do that. Some lower members cant even research AI Logistics and its needed elsewhere.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:18 pm |
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Joshball98
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:33 am Posts: 2519 Location: Behind you
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ZeroEither wrote: Thats what i'm sayin and this way the people who have already researched it dont lose anything, and it gears the people who arnt researching into the base to actually participate and research it and what not. Again Horrible Idea, Lower ranked members cant even get AI Logistics done, some people may need the research in other tiers, forcing them to research a tier would cause them to leave the legion
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:20 pm |
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ZeroEither
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:37 pm Posts: 255
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Joshball98 wrote: ZeroEither wrote: Thats what i'm sayin and this way the people who have already researched it dont lose anything, and it gears the people who arnt researching into the base to actually participate and research it and what not. Again Horrible Idea, Lower ranked members cant even get AI Logistics done, some people may need the research in other tiers, forcing them to research a tier would cause them to leave the legion And I would like to point out this, I'v seen lower levels then me by almost 100 levels with higher gear then me and there doing it off like 80-100 research an hour~ so its not a matter of forcing them, its a matter of showing your actively participating in your legions advancement.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:23 pm |
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Joshball98
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:33 am Posts: 2519 Location: Behind you
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ZeroEither wrote: Joshball98 wrote: ZeroEither wrote: Thats what i'm sayin and this way the people who have already researched it dont lose anything, and it gears the people who arnt researching into the base to actually participate and research it and what not. Again Horrible Idea, Lower ranked members cant even get AI Logistics done, some people may need the research in other tiers, forcing them to research a tier would cause them to leave the legion And I would like to point out this, I'v seen lower levels then me by almost 100 levels with higher gear then me and there doing it off like 80-100 research an hour~ so its not a matter of forcing them, its a matter of showing your actively participating in your legions advancement. They are most likely slow rankers which is one of the best strategies. But its needed in other tiers, the base research is insane I would hate to have to research 1.5 Million for Sub Quantum. Im sure many other people would to, I mean you might be in the middle of say a Scanning tier for a blitz and they set it to that you have to instantly stop and research it. It would be annoying
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:26 pm |
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thunderbolta
Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 11:01 am Posts: 5825 Location: Zolar
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-1! Here's why:
In my legion we have several low ranks who cannot research far enough to reach the tier for a level 4 base.
The base is set out to help these low ranks - this would be horrible.
As long as it's optional +1. If it's mandatory -1.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:28 pm |
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Joshball98
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:33 am Posts: 2519 Location: Behind you
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thunderbolta wrote: -1! Here's why:
In my legion we have several low ranks who cannot research far enough to reach the tier for a level 4 base.
The base is set out to help these low ranks - this would be horrible.
As long as it's optional +1. If it's mandatory -1. Im -1 either way would just waste time for development of something much better like Governments.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:29 pm |
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ZeroEither
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:37 pm Posts: 255
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Quote: And I would like to point out this, I'v seen lower levels then me by almost 100 levels with higher gear then me and there doing it off like 80-100 research an hour~ so its not a matter of forcing them, its a matter of showing your actively participating in your legions advancement. Quote: They are most likely slow rankers which is one of the best strategies. But its needed in other tiers, the base research is insane I would hate to have to research 1.5 Million for Sub Quantum. Im sure many other people would to, I mean you might be in the middle of say a Scanning tier for a blitz and they set it to that you have to instantly stop and research it. It would be annoying Thats why i used AI Logistics as a good reference, if your leader is that much of a jerk to set it to Sub Quantum, then wth are you even doing there, also as an added note, it should only be able to set to something the leader them self has researched to make it a bit more fair, so even the leader will have to upgrade, its all about teamwork, no teamwork and you fail...
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:31 pm |
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Joshball98
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:33 am Posts: 2519 Location: Behind you
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No, quote fail, but also, I would like to "point out" that why would the leader do the extra research if he doesnt have to....
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:34 pm |
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ZeroEither
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:37 pm Posts: 255
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Ok i'll use an example better suited for this, Children are at daycare, the owner decides to evenly give out candy to each child, there enjoying it, but a few people are working extra hard and are doing better then everyone else, then one day the Owner says "If you arnt working hard, you dont get any candy." so now the few who did work hard are the only ones getting any candy and everyone else is sitting there not having any cause they were not able to do anything because the few did everything already.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:42 pm |
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Joshball98
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:33 am Posts: 2519 Location: Behind you
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ZeroEither wrote: Ok i'll use an example better suited for this, Children are at daycare, the owner decides to evenly give out candy to each child, there enjoying it, but a few people are working extra hard and are doing better then everyone else, then one day the Owner says "If you arnt working hard, you dont get any candy." so now the few who did work hard are the only ones getting any candy and everyone else is sitting there not having any cause they were not able to do anything because the few did everything already. Uh huh, what if their not able to? Huh? What if they need the research in another tier? Then your acting like a big #$&*$#.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:47 pm |
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ZeroEither
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:37 pm Posts: 255
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Joshball98 wrote: ZeroEither wrote: Ok i'll use an example better suited for this, Children are at daycare, the owner decides to evenly give out candy to each child, there enjoying it, but a few people are working extra hard and are doing better then everyone else, then one day the Owner says "If you arnt working hard, you dont get any candy." so now the few who did work hard are the only ones getting any candy and everyone else is sitting there not having any cause they were not able to do anything because the few did everything already. Uh huh, what if their not able to? Huh? What if they need the research in another tier? Then your acting like a big #$&*$#. Its a game, its not like its going anywhere, if they really want to research whatever tier they want to, then they can, nobody is saying YOU HAVE to research this, its more or less you choose whether or not YOU want the bonus's or not, its really quiet simple, also its not like the tier is gonna go anywhere, it'll still be there when your done 
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:53 pm |
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Joshball98
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:33 am Posts: 2519 Location: Behind you
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ZeroEither wrote: Joshball98 wrote: ZeroEither wrote: Ok i'll use an example better suited for this, Children are at daycare, the owner decides to evenly give out candy to each child, there enjoying it, but a few people are working extra hard and are doing better then everyone else, then one day the Owner says "If you arnt working hard, you dont get any candy." so now the few who did work hard are the only ones getting any candy and everyone else is sitting there not having any cause they were not able to do anything because the few did everything already. Uh huh, what if their not able to? Huh? What if they need the research in another tier? Then your acting like a big #$&*$#. Its a game, its not like its going anywhere, if they really want to research whatever tier they want to, then they can, nobody is saying YOU HAVE to research this, its more or less you choose whether or not YOU want the bonus's or not, its really quiet simple, also its not like the tier is gonna go anywhere, it'll still be there when your done  The lower ranks who cant research it are the ones who need it and since they need it they have to research it so YOU HAVE TO research it >.>
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:55 pm |
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ZeroEither
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:37 pm Posts: 255
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Exactly, They Do NEED IT, which is why they SHOULD be researching it.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:07 pm |
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RavenDark13
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:01 am Posts: 571 Location: Hudson County, NJ, USA
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I agree that it should be optional. Everything should. However, it should still come to pass. It will further encourage legion loyalty.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:23 pm |
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MadHatred
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:50 pm Posts: 23
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I don't see why it is bad because it would be optional. Definitely better than the percentage division where EM trumps all.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:27 pm |
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jbryant1941
Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:23 pm Posts: 3
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I agree that everyone should contribute. You work hard you reap the rewards any suggestion otherwise is socialist crap. If I want a new car should the car be based on what I make or what I can afford.
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Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:35 pm |
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