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make the hack ability (3 pts) on base not cagable
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Author:  BinaryMan [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:49 am ]
Post subject:  make the hack ability (3 pts) on base not cagable

Honestly for 3 pts and you can just remove it ? lower attack on the main damagers is strategic, but worthless if they can just remove it thats like a 1 pt ability.

Author:  Kalos [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: make the hack ability (3 pts) on base not cagable

BinaryMan wrote:
Honestly for 3 pts and you can just remove it ? lower attack on the main damagers is strategic, but worthless if they can just remove it thats like a 1 pt ability.


or make it cost a null fuse

Author:  Vekno [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: make the hack ability (3 pts) on base not cagable

lol, are you serious? it can be removed with a containment cage????

Author:  Lone.Lycan [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: make the hack ability (3 pts) on base not cagable

and the krionite minefield is useless because people expect to repair 20 times during a high lvl base fight anyway

Author:  Razorback [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: make the hack ability (3 pts) on base not cagable

I was just about to suggest this. We had a hell of a fight with a rank 4 base yesterday, and we got hit with Remote Intrusion a few times. For the epicness of a base fight, this really should be a Null Fuse-level debuff to remove. Right now it's really a waste of base action points.

Author:  thunderbolta [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: make the hack ability (3 pts) on base not cagable

I suppose the base traps are cageable too. :roll: the hacker ability should be unremovable or at least cost a null fuse.

Author:  jcwiggens [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:15 pm ]
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I have 150 null fuses...most big players have plenty.....it should be irremovable.... even if it was i still wouldnt use it....save for massive hull repair....thats what keeps your base alive.

Author:  FerrusManus [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:20 pm ]
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Yeah, I actually brought this up before fighting even started, but with how long it lasts then it should either be irremovable but only affect Base attack, or only be removable with a Null Fuse. I prefer the former; I know for our battles at least that would've been pretty effective.

Author:  LordHylas [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:35 pm ]
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If it is removable only with null fuse, than null fuse drops need to either be increased, or null fuses made tradeable. While some of the bigger players may have gajillions of null fuses, the fact of the matter is, they're quite hard to come by for most people under rank 400. I see maybe 1 every day or so. A legion-mate of higher rank than myself only sees them once every few days. If you make certain debuffs removable only with nulls, then you effectively just knock the lower ranking players out of being able to participate in the base battles. Which means the higher ranks get more silvers, more battle market artifacts and the gap between the high ranks and the low ranks increases even more. I am completely against yet more null-fuse only removable debuffs unless the null fuses become either tradeable or are increased in frequency in drops.

For trading of null fuses (I added a poll to it):
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10653

Author:  strm avenger [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: make the hack ability (3 pts) on base not cagable

Problem I see with this is that, generally in our battles I'm the one of the top damagers and I just get on, do my damage, let other people hit it. Getting my attack zapped wouldn't make any difference... unless they repair, which they never seem to do.

Author:  Lone.Lycan [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:59 am ]
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thunderbolta wrote:
I suppose the base traps are cageable too.
the base traps (the ones labeled traps) don't even place a lasting effect on the players attacking... one triggers a ̶+̶1̶0̶%̶ (see edit note) atk buff on the base, and the other does an instant -50% damage to the player's hull+shield...


i agree Remote Intruder (-90% atk on top 3 players) should be applied as a trap instead of a regular cageable debuff

EDIT: correction on the base trap.... gives +(10% of next attacker's attack value) to base's attack... very strange effect in my opinion, and.... worthless

Author:  thunderbolta [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: make the hack ability (3 pts) on base not cagable

Lone.Lycan wrote:
thunderbolta wrote:
I suppose the base traps are cageable too.
the base traps (the ones labeled traps) don't even place a lasting effect on the players attacking... one triggers a +10% atk buff on the base, and the other does an instant -50% damage to the player's hull+shield...


Doh! I totally knew that. ;)

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