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Author:  Maico [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:19 pm ]
Post subject:  CT lab change ideas
Yes the CT lab is a great way to get rid of extra artifacts but as some have stated, for individual artifacts their cost can be too high for what they give.

Changing it to a contribution and distribution system would be more efficient and player friendly. Allowing multiple players to contribute artifacts towards the construction of a CT artifact would allow the base to store them as well to give out as rewards or assistance to their members. This would also allow for trade pacts between legions for CT blueprints and artifacts.
Author:  Joshball98 [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CT lab change ideas
-1
Author:  235drew [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CT lab change ideas
cough cough multi
Author:  Maico [ Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CT lab change ideas
Joshball98 wrote:
-1

Thanks for that constructive post!

235drew wrote:
cough cough multi


You're sarcasm isnt appreciated. Multis could be a problem yes, but given how breakthroughs are found in the CT lab i doubt this would be a huge issue unless someone manages to make 5+ multis and get them all up to rank 150+
Author:  sith squirrel [ Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CT lab change ideas
CT lab artifacts arnt meant to be easy to get
-1
Author:  Maico [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CT lab change ideas
sith squirrel wrote:
CT lab artifacts arnt meant to be easy to get
-1


Given that this is the only person to explain why i got a -1 let me ask you a question.
Why?
What a dumb reason to say this is a bad idea.
"artifacts aren't meant to be easy to get" is a horrid response to bringing a legion together to further their power.
Why is it such a great idea to have a CT lab that requires the full work of the legion to get up and running with cool artifacts but suddenly it's not ok to allow the entire legion to work towards obtaining them allowing it only on a per player basis.

That aside acquiring these artifacts does not reduce in difficulty because you have multiple people working towards them. In the end you still end up with relatively few of them that are stored in the base until given out.

Not only does this promote further team work inside legions but allows for further diplomacy within legions.

Whats more, this allows for even more elaborate artifacts to be added to the CT that require even greater supplies to create, perhaps even base artifacts.

And should you all still be stuck on the idea that the CT lab is a solo thing despite requiring a legion working together to create then how about another kind of CT lab that allows for legion collaboration.
Author:  Darth Flagitious [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CT lab change ideas
Maico wrote:
Yes the CT lab is a great way to get rid of extra artifacts but as some have stated, for individual artifacts their cost can be too high for what they give.

Changing it to a contribution and distribution system would be more efficient and player friendly. Allowing multiple players to contribute artifacts towards the construction of a CT artifact would allow the base to store them as well to give out as rewards or assistance to their members. This would also allow for trade pacts between legions for CT blueprints and artifacts.

So once the whole legion contributes enough to make a Velox Thruster, who gets it? The one that contributes the most or first come, first served or does it get rotated around the legion on a daily/weekly basis?

That's why your idea won't work.
Author:  Sparky [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CT lab change ideas
if the player who it is going to was set before construction began an that player had to be loyal to the legion for at least 2 weeks then maybe this idea could work
Author:  Dolon [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CT lab change ideas
Perhaps all members of a legion are given the chance to start a "Research Project", whereby they name two things: The artifact they are researching, and the recipient of that artifact upon its completion. Thus, every member of the legion could see who started the project, the artifact being worked on, and who the recipient would be. A list of projects would be viewable by all members of the legion, along with the option to start a new project. So you could go to your CT lab, contribute artifacts to 2 different projects, then start your own project all at the same time.

Perhaps the number of projects allowed to be ongoing at once could be equal to the current Base Level? Or, to allow greater flexibility, the maximum number of projects could be Base level * 2.
Author:  Maico [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CT lab change ideas
Darth Flagitious wrote:
Maico wrote:
Yes the CT lab is a great way to get rid of extra artifacts but as some have stated, for individual artifacts their cost can be too high for what they give.

Changing it to a contribution and distribution system would be more efficient and player friendly. Allowing multiple players to contribute artifacts towards the construction of a CT artifact would allow the base to store them as well to give out as rewards or assistance to their members. This would also allow for trade pacts between legions for CT blueprints and artifacts.

So once the whole legion contributes enough to make a Velox Thruster, who gets it? The one that contributes the most or first come, first served or does it get rotated around the legion on a daily/weekly basis?

That's why your idea won't work.


This is a horrendously easy problem to solve, something that could be set by officers.
The options could be
Distribution: Once an artifact is complete it enters the base vault for officers (or just the leader depending on permissions) to distribute to any player they see fit. This is trumped by total contribution*
Individual Contribution: Highest contributor for that one artifact gets it
Total contribution: If a player has enough to complete the project solo this player gets the artifact regardless of whether distribution is set as an option or not (current form of getting CT artifacts)
Player selection: Each player would have their own ability to give artifacts towards another player in the legions completion of a CT artifact. This would be a button in the CT lab to see completion by other players. It would list all the players (similar to how they are displayed in the legion tab) and instead of name/rank/position/status it would read name/rank/position/CT artifact X where CT artifact X would be a drop down box to each artifact that has been discovered at the CT lab. This column would also display the number of artifacts that player had towards the completion of the artifact allowing any player to help another who had started the project. This would also allow for an "ask for legion assistance" type thing that we currently have with boss/rare/elite enemies for legion members to ask for assistance in building.

The ideas of Dolon and Sparky could also be reasonable ways to distribute CT artifacts.
Author:  Joshball98 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CT lab change ideas
Maico wrote:
Darth Flagitious wrote:
Maico wrote:
Yes the CT lab is a great way to get rid of extra artifacts but as some have stated, for individual artifacts their cost can be too high for what they give.

Changing it to a contribution and distribution system would be more efficient and player friendly. Allowing multiple players to contribute artifacts towards the construction of a CT artifact would allow the base to store them as well to give out as rewards or assistance to their members. This would also allow for trade pacts between legions for CT blueprints and artifacts.

So once the whole legion contributes enough to make a Velox Thruster, who gets it? The one that contributes the most or first come, first served or does it get rotated around the legion on a daily/weekly basis?

That's why your idea won't work.


This is a horrendously easy problem to solve, something that could be set by officers.
The options could be
Distribution: Once an artifact is complete it enters the base vault for officers (or just the leader depending on permissions) to distribute to any player they see fit. This is trumped by total contribution*
Individual Contribution: Highest contributor for that one artifact gets it
Total contribution: If a player has enough to complete the project solo this player gets the artifact regardless of whether distribution is set as an option or not (current form of getting CT artifacts)
Player selection: Each player would have their own ability to give artifacts towards another player in the legions completion of a CT artifact. This would be a button in the CT lab to see completion by other players. It would list all the players (similar to how they are displayed in the legion tab) and instead of name/rank/position/status it would read name/rank/position/CT artifact X where CT artifact X would be a drop down box to each artifact that has been discovered at the CT lab. This column would also display the number of artifacts that player had towards the completion of the artifact allowing any player to help another who had started the project. This would also allow for an "ask for legion assistance" type thing that we currently have with boss/rare/elite enemies for legion members to ask for assistance in building.

The ideas of Dolon and Sparky could also be reasonable ways to distribute CT artifacts.

That was just one reason it sucked. Theres still more :roll: . That and its just plain ridiculous
Author:  Dolon [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CT lab change ideas
Joshball98 wrote:
That was just one reason it sucked. Theres still more :roll: . That and its just plain ridiculous


Wow.... talk about flaming for the sake of flaming.... you don't explain why you dislike/disagree with the post you're quoting, you just say it sucks and is ridiculous. Excuse me while I disregard your post altogether.... Anyone have anything useful to add to the discussion?
Author:  Valocis [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CT lab change ideas
Dolon wrote:
Joshball98 wrote:
That was just one reason it sucked. Theres still more :roll: . That and its just plain ridiculous


Wow.... talk about flaming for the sake of flaming.... you don't explain why you dislike/disagree with the post you're quoting, you just say it sucks and is ridiculous. Excuse me while I disregard your post altogether.... Anyone have anything useful to add to the discussion?



I don't like the idea of ME having to decide which member gets the artifact.


WHAT would be a possible better system is that players can just contribute artis to another person trying to get that Discovery artifact. BUT that is already possible. I have members asking for artis they need to finish making a discovery arti and I give them to them.

ALSO! It IS(key word "IS") supposed to be hard to get these, BECUASE Plasma worlds and Demon worlds are supposed to be sorta rare. It took me awhile(with 2200 arti per hour) to get enough Processing cores to get my Plasma World. Besides, even the non awesome ones are still powerful and if EVERYONE had a bunch of DM-79 Datacenters and I might as well just take there planet and use an extractor to get the datacenter.
Author:  strm avenger [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CT lab change ideas
Look, the general theme is "-1" so don't bother trying to fight your case any more.

However, I DO like the idea of a seperate CT lab that allows you to collaborate on items for the base or other artifacts which benefit the whole legion.
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