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Lower the AP cost of nulls from 2k to 1k atleast. Im trying to get yellows but can't when the nulls are so rare to get, and don't have any. Many of u would say "Put up your Artifacts", but i've seen many people also agree with this and i think it should be done.

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Lower the AP cost of nulls from 2k to 1k atleast. Im trying to get yellows but can't when the nulls are so rare to get, and don't have any. Many of u would say "Put up your Artifacts", but i've seen many people also agree with this and i think it should be done.


just a hint, use the technique called 'ice fishing' by rigor mortis. personally i call it looting or scavenging. its a great way to get yellows if you need some quick ones.

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Zargor wrote:
Lower the AP cost of nulls from 2k to 1k atleast. Im trying to get yellows but can't when the nulls are so rare to get, and don't have any. Many of u would say "Put up your Artifacts", but i've seen many people also agree with this and i think it should be done.


just a hint, use the technique called 'ice fishing' by rigor mortis. personally i call it looting or scavenging. its a great way to get yellows if you need some quick ones.


I "re-discovered" the method myself, but Huluk (and likely many other players) was using it before I was (and Huluk coined the name "Ice Fishing" for it).

Summary of how to do it:
Have two tabs opened, "Tab 1" and "Tab 2". After 10-15 minutes, click "Battle" again on Tab 2, and then see who is on Tab 1, but not on Tab 2. There is a chance (usually 25-50%, depending on the time of day) that a person who was on Tab 1, but is not on the refreshed Tab 2, has been disabled. Then after raiding everyone who was disabled on Tab 1, refresh the battle tab on Tab 1, and now Tab 2 will have the disabled people (if there are any).

It works better at some periods of higher activity during the day (where almost all disappearances will be disabled people), although at times of lower activity many people will just bump off for largely undetermined reasons. Both times sometimes have people who were bumped off.

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Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:35 am
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i dont even bother opening tabs. I use chrome, and if you just let the bt sit long enough, usually 30 minutes tops, look for people with more than 3/5/5. more likely than not theyll be dead. then, just raid them. BUT, dont click the 'x' button, instead click off the window. that way the page dosnt refresh. if its an active night, you can find as many as 2-3 (at my rank) to all 10 depending on what rank you are, disabled and prime for the pickings so to speak.

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Yeah, you can wait and check each as well. I just personally like the precision of having the two tabs, so I know who disappeared and can forgo a few more clicks (because I'm lazy like that ;)).

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wouldn't that be an illegal exploit ?

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lol, i getcha. but gl is wierd where the longer you have it open the more ram it takes to run it... if i leave it open for 3 days then it near crashes my computer. and thats with 1 tab. i couldnt imagine with 2. :P

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wouldn't that be an illegal exploit ?


how so? we arnt breaking any rules. at least, any rules that i know of. you click a player on the battle tab, and they happen to already be disabled. its a free raid. its not your fault if you know how to find disabled ppl on the bt efficiently. If its considered an exploit, i'll gladly stop, but its not like we're clicking too fast and overbuilding our ships and planets. :P i wouldnt think this would cause much trouble.

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detregets wrote:
wouldn't that be an illegal exploit ?


I don't see why it would be, people have multiple tabs open all the time. If it is, I'll stop doing it, but as far as I can tell it runs within the confines of the game in a legal fashion. It has been talked about on the forums openly multiple times as well. If the having two tabs part open is illegal, the exact same thing can be done just by manually clicking through every player on an unrefreshed tab. The refreshed tab just allows me to easily see who is possibly disabled on the unrefreshed tab, and only really affects it by allowing me to click a smaller number of times on players.

Also, what Vekno said seems to sum it up well.

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lol, i getcha. but gl is wierd where the longer you have it open the more ram it takes to run it... if i leave it open for 3 days then it near crashes my computer. and thats with 1 tab. i couldnt imagine with 2. :P

I think that could be Chrome, actually. I'll run FF and Chrome, and both stay open for the duration of my computer's time before it shuts down (which is weeks on end, I usually just hibernate it). I keep GL on FF (which never seems to slow down), but after a few days Chrome gets noticeably laggy and stops functioning as well as it does after being freshly opened.

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ok guys i was just wondering

i sometimes open a second tab myself , when repairing while pvping

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RigorMortis wrote:
Vekno wrote:
just a hint, use the technique called 'ice fishing' by rigor mortis. personally i call it looting or scavenging. its a great way to get yellows if you need some quick ones.


I "re-discovered" the method myself, but Huluk (and likely many other players) was using it before I was (and Huluk coined the name "Ice Fishing" for it).

Summary of how to do it:
Have two tabs opened, "Tab 1" and "Tab 2". After 10-15 minutes, click "Battle" again on Tab 2, and then see who is on Tab 1, but not on Tab 2. There is a chance (usually 25-50%, depending on the time of day) that a person who was on Tab 1, but is not on the refreshed Tab 2, has been disabled. Then after raiding everyone who was disabled on Tab 1, refresh the battle tab on Tab 1, and now Tab 2 will have the disabled people (if there are any).

It works better at some periods of higher activity during the day (where almost all disappearances will be disabled people), although at times of lower activity many people will just bump off for largely undetermined reasons. Both times sometimes have people who were bumped off.


Thnx RigorMortis and Vekno, i will try "Ice Fishing".

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If you need nulls, take a break from pvping for a while, the nulls will pile up into the 50s, it's been about 5 weeks since I last pvped and my null stack has grown by 40-50.

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Another method:
Find someone close to your rank and scan in your legion.
BOTH look on your BTs and look for the same targets.
One of you disables and then raids, the other raids too.
Repeat - perhaps switching who has to disable.
This also gets around the null problem because one of you eats the KV trap, and the other can get the disable.

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