2. you receive a list of the top damaging players along with target buttons for the top 5

For the Nth time.... No guards on bases! It doesn't matter how well thought out the idea is, guards are a BAD idea for bases. Lower strength legions vs a lower rank base is a tough enough fight. High strength legions vs low rank bases, well, suck it up cupcake. When Individual ships have better stats than the base, it SHOULD be easy to kill. High strength legions vs high rank bases, that can be 8 hours of pure hell to get a disable.

As it is, the ONLY advantage attackers have vs a base are Battle Pacts. That's it. Attackers can't debuff or nerf a base. They can't launch krionite torpedo-like artifacts. Nothing. There is nothing that attackers can do to a base besides sit back and smash away at them like an angry retarded gorilla. And when there isn't enough badges awarded to cover 1 legion, how much interest is there going to be for 3, 4 or 5 legions to unite for a base battle? Our group does it more for the crates because many of us already have ALL the silver badge ship mods. A level 5 base gives out 40 badge slots. If we allow for a few open spots in each of our 3 legions, that would make around 170 people trying to get into 40 slots. Eventually people will get tired of not getting top 40 and stop participating for that 1% raid chance. And we have one of the (if not THE) most powerful alliances out there. And everyone seems to want to make bases HARDER to disable.

It boggles my mind how so many people can get stuck on the defender PoV and not realize that by making it harder to disable a base, you're screwing YOURSELF out of badges and loot.

While i agree guarding the base is just over kill and pointless it would be nice to be able to target attackers and try to fight them off. But you would have to limit who can attack who one of the top 5 attackers well thats rather useless with the base ablity remote intrusion and krionite minefield, maybe if they was in a rank range you could target them but it would still be low of a list of new content to put in.

CM would be a problem, so it would probably be fair if it's not allowed if targeting is done via the attacker list
but I don't see a problem with disarming. Is there any particular reason that they have more disarm than you do containment cage? frankly, the cage rarely become useful(compread to most other buff/debuff arts)

Could be a miriad of reasons. The Dark Command Nexus/Sha'din Hypergrid both have debuff abilities of -25% attack, that would certainly be a good time to use a cage and the XRP Warp Station has a debuff of -50% defense, thats a sure fire cage moment.

I'll use 1 Dis-Bomb & 1 EMP on those above targets, but they could easily debuff me enough times to eat through several cages. Yes theres the argument that you could wait for the de-buff to wear off, but given you could end up waiting 15 minutes for it to wear off, only for your first shot to get you de-buffed again, its not worth it.


I certainly don't save up cages to use them in the event some person hits me with emp's and bombs.

You -can- go out and attack the people locking your base. It's called looking for them on your battle tab.

See, I think there might be an option that could make most people happy.

You can't defend the base like you can a planet - that's just silly as has been stated, the att/def would become stupid in a lot of cases.

BUT - I would like to be able to battle when my base is under attack.

So how about this.

If your base is locked and being attacked, you have a choice in the legion tab to view attackers. You can take a look at them and see who is fighting.

At this point you are considered to be scanning the attackers via the base and so they can;t see you.

However, if you chose to attack, or fire an artefact at any one of the attackers, all the people that join in the attack become aware of you and can choose to target you instead of the base.

This way, can either just sit back, let the base fall and not get ruined or make a stand against the aggressors.

It means you have to be online, can't just leave a guard in place and gives the attacking legion the option of fighting back against anyone who tries to defend.

I think thats a possible fair way of giving a real "Space Battle" experience without making bases to tough.

This would be decent with the following things:

1. Players from the locked base that perform any offensive action against the attacking legion's member(s) will become alerted for 8 hours (same time as base) to the attacking legion (i.e. the whole legion can see them)
2. Players from the attacking legion do -not- have to attack the players from the locked legion in order to hit the locked base (i.e. they don't need to 'go through' the members of the locked legion)
3. There will be an extra incentive for disabling players from the locked legion that have been alerted and vice versa (a player from the locked legion could receive a different type of badge). This would encourage taking part, but not over or under rewarding.
4. When players have been disabled, on either side, they gain 10 minutes of legion attack immunity (and likewise they cannot attack in the legion fashion for 10 minutes). This prevents ganging up on the highest hitters on both ends.

Step 4 is probably the most important. If you can just keep disabling the attackers, it's almost like adding on stats to the locked base. So, the 10 minutes gives every member of each side a chance to perform actions without being disabled for the entire 8 hours (that and then everyone would get gang disabled left and right)


Even that I think is not the best idea. There -has- to be protection from the attackers perspective as well. However, I can see the desire for new systems in legion battles

i thought of guarding bases...and everyone thought it was stupid......