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| Author: | MitchellN [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
Exotica is a planet that is sort over by the entire galaxy. Once it was a honor to have it (People now still brag that they held exotica) and it should regain it's status as a planet that is important to keep. Please Dan! Add some bonus towards holding Exotica. Then (As Nocifer said) the whole galaxy will keep trying to take it, instead of one legion holding it, because no body is bothered to put in the work. People should have to FIGHT over this planet. How many people have been disappointed after finishing the mission, only to find it untakable. No one bothers to try and regain/gain it. Comments, Criticism appreciated. |
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| Author: | mojo311 [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
Agreed. Exotica is really a worthless planet now. It used to be something that was worth while to take but now its just something that is there taking up space. |
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| Author: | Sparky [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
maybe like a 2% extra bonus base payout increase per week to the the legion that owns it |
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| Author: | webguydan [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
Actually, thanks for bringing this back up again. We do have plans make some fun changes to Exotica. If things are received well, we plan to extend this to other planets as well. For a bonus, Exotica will have a special planet ability that grants its owner 'something nice'. In order to prevent it from being held indefinitely by the same person, it will carry a stacking debuff to attack and defense the longer it is held. Thus, it will get progressively harder to keep it from being invaded. |
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| Author: | Shortwave737 [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
webguydan wrote: Actually, thanks for bringing this back up again. We do have plans make some fun changes to Exotica. If things are received well, we plan to extend this to other planets as well. For a bonus, Exotica will have a special planet ability that grants its owner 'something nice'. In order to prevent it from being held indefinitely by the same person, it will carry a stacking debuff to attack and defense the longer it is held. Thus, it will get progressively harder to keep it from being invaded. That is pure genious... A stacking Debuff... You still manage to suprise me Dan! |
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| Author: | MitchellN [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
webguydan wrote: Actually, thanks for bringing this back up again. We do have plans make some fun changes to Exotica. If things are received well, we plan to extend this to other planets as well. For a bonus, Exotica will have a special planet ability that grants its owner 'something nice'. In order to prevent it from being held indefinitely by the same person, it will carry a stacking debuff to attack and defense the longer it is held. Thus, it will get progressively harder to keep it from being invaded. Wow! Awesome Thanks Dan! (Jeez, Now Paul's gonna have a hard time keeping it lol ) |
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| Author: | Darth Flagitious [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
webguydan wrote: Actually, thanks for bringing this back up again. We do have plans make some fun changes to Exotica. If things are received well, we plan to extend this to other planets as well. For a bonus, Exotica will have a special planet ability that grants its owner 'something nice'. In order to prevent it from being held indefinitely by the same person, it will carry a stacking debuff to attack and defense the longer it is held. Thus, it will get progressively harder to keep it from being invaded. Genius... Pure Genius... Though I do hope you're not considering the stacking debuff for regular planets. Its hard enough to keep good planets with all the fluxjackers around.... |
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| Author: | mojo311 [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
Darth Flagitious wrote: webguydan wrote: Actually, thanks for bringing this back up again. We do have plans make some fun changes to Exotica. If things are received well, we plan to extend this to other planets as well. For a bonus, Exotica will have a special planet ability that grants its owner 'something nice'. In order to prevent it from being held indefinitely by the same person, it will carry a stacking debuff to attack and defense the longer it is held. Thus, it will get progressively harder to keep it from being invaded. Genius... Pure Genius... Though I do hope you're not considering the stacking debuff for regular planets. Its hard enough to keep good planets with all the fluxjackers around.... lol I agree on both parts. However I would also like to have a new tab on exotica or all planets for that matter that allows us to see who has owned it in the past and for how long. I think it would be interesting to see something like that. |
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| Author: | Xx Blitz xX [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
I can't agree more. We have Exotica again but to me it's just another rock with bragging rights. I don't even care who has it really. I don't gain anything from it and my legion doesn't gain anything from it. Now if Exotica could be another base like planet where the entire legion got the bonus' from the planets production then I could see it becoming something to fight over and really want and keep. It would be nice to want the damn thing. |
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| Author: | xXxEccoxXx [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
MitchellN wrote: webguydan wrote: Actually, thanks for bringing this back up again. We do have plans make some fun changes to Exotica. If things are received well, we plan to extend this to other planets as well. For a bonus, Exotica will have a special planet ability that grants its owner 'something nice'. In order to prevent it from being held indefinitely by the same person, it will carry a stacking debuff to attack and defense the longer it is held. Thus, it will get progressively harder to keep it from being invaded. Wow! Awesome Thanks Dan! (Jeez, Now Paul's gonna have a hard time keeping it lol ) i can see this being exploited slightly unless of course Dan has in the works a code of sorts so that the original owner of Exotica cannot retake the planet for X amount of time, otherwise for example: the owner could get debuffed to hell and lose it and in doing so, lose all the debuffs as they aren't the current owner of Exotica, take it straight back with no penalty, as they then become the 'new' owner of Exotica and hence won't have debuffs since its recently conquered and will also get the 'something nice' bonus for having it as well. |
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| Author: | Chakotay [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
which mission line is it? I still haven't finished it... haha |
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| Author: | Timinski Hama [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
Since everyone can see it, it should be made an all production planet and be passed around to get them greens. Dan's new upgrade to the planet would make it a lot easier to pass it around.  It's not even worth having. For what? To have bragging rights in a game?... It's kinda pointless to have a planet where it has to be bricked up all the time just to keep a planet that isn't really worth having in your possession. |
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| Author: | MitchellN [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
Chakotay wrote: which mission line is it? I still haven't finished it... haha http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/Invasive_Action |
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| Author: | Darth Flagitious [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
xXxEccoxXx wrote: MitchellN wrote: webguydan wrote: Actually, thanks for bringing this back up again. We do have plans make some fun changes to Exotica. If things are received well, we plan to extend this to other planets as well. For a bonus, Exotica will have a special planet ability that grants its owner 'something nice'. In order to prevent it from being held indefinitely by the same person, it will carry a stacking debuff to attack and defense the longer it is held. Thus, it will get progressively harder to keep it from being invaded. Wow! Awesome Thanks Dan! (Jeez, Now Paul's gonna have a hard time keeping it lol ) i can see this being exploited slightly unless of course Dan has in the works a code of sorts so that the original owner of Exotica cannot retake the planet for X amount of time, otherwise for example: the owner could get debuffed to hell and lose it and in doing so, lose all the debuffs as they aren't the current owner of Exotica, take it straight back with no penalty, as they then become the 'new' owner of Exotica and hence won't have debuffs since its recently conquered and will also get the 'something nice' bonus for having it as well. Good point. Much like the Green badge trading. One way to avoid this would be for the "something nice" to progressively get better the longer its held. That would also balance the increasing effort required to keep it due to the "stacking debuffs." Yes it will be harder and harder to keep, but a progressive incentive would prevent the apathy that is sure to occur after the debuffs reach a certain point. It would make the whole "king of the hill" concept more interesting than "oh well, its at -40%, let them have it..." |
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| Author: | mojo311 [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
xXxEccoxXx wrote: MitchellN wrote: webguydan wrote: Actually, thanks for bringing this back up again. We do have plans make some fun changes to Exotica. If things are received well, we plan to extend this to other planets as well. For a bonus, Exotica will have a special planet ability that grants its owner 'something nice'. In order to prevent it from being held indefinitely by the same person, it will carry a stacking debuff to attack and defense the longer it is held. Thus, it will get progressively harder to keep it from being invaded. Wow! Awesome Thanks Dan! (Jeez, Now Paul's gonna have a hard time keeping it lol ) i can see this being exploited slightly unless of course Dan has in the works a code of sorts so that the original owner of Exotica cannot retake the planet for X amount of time, otherwise for example: the owner could get debuffed to hell and lose it and in doing so, lose all the debuffs as they aren't the current owner of Exotica, take it straight back with no penalty, as they then become the 'new' owner of Exotica and hence won't have debuffs since its recently conquered and will also get the 'something nice' bonus for having it as well. The only way I can see something like this happening is if the player would abandon it and then retake it. So he would just need to make it so you can't abandon the world. |
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| Author: | Xx Blitz xX [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
webguydan wrote: Actually, thanks for bringing this back up again. We do have plans make some fun changes to Exotica. If things are received well, we plan to extend this to other planets as well. For a bonus, Exotica will have a special planet ability that grants its owner 'something nice'. In order to prevent it from being held indefinitely by the same person, it will carry a stacking debuff to attack and defense the longer it is held. Thus, it will get progressively harder to keep it from being invaded. Great idea but I've always seen Exotica as a legion planet because it now takes a legion to take it. No one person can take the population down alone unless he has unlimited energy and if and when he did the odds of invading is very low because of the defense that is able to be stacked on it. On top of all of that it takes a legion to take out all of the ships guarding it and that's why I see it as a legion planet with one persons name on it. It would be nice if we were able to gain some real nice production from it without having to stack it with so much defense and attack. If the planet is a player planet then everyone in that persons legion should be able to take it. As it is I can't take it because my legion mate has it and if it is going to made a lot better then I would want to take a stab at it too regardless who has it. This could cause some serious friction in the legion but why should that one person gain from it when the entire legion helped him get it in the first place ? |
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| Author: | mojo311 [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
Xx Blitz xX wrote: Great idea but I've always seen Exotica as a legion planet because it now takes a legion to take it. No one person can take the population down alone unless he has unlimited energy and if and when he did the odds of invading is very low because of the defense that is able to be stacked on it. On top of all of that it takes a legion to take out all of the ships guarding it and that's why I see it as a legion planet with one persons name on it. hey I did it. lol |
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| Author: | Darth Flagitious [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
Xx Blitz xX wrote: No one person can take the population down alone unless he has unlimited energy and if and when he did the odds of invading is very low because of the defense that is able to be stacked on it. On top of all of that it takes a legion to take out all of the ships guarding it and that's why I see it as a legion planet with one persons name on it. He didn't get the invasion roll, but <cough> <cough> Mojo <cough> Agreed, under normal circumstances it does take a legion to get it to the invasion stage and any rewards from the "something nice" should be a reward for the legion. I think someone mentioned a base payout bonus. That's one possibility, but it would have to be a small bonus since most of the legions that would be fighting for Exotica already have insane payouts. A little extra legion bonus towards planet attack/defense would be another idea. |
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| Author: | Threadbare [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
Exploiting by losing and retaking the planet to clear the debuffs could be managed by giving Exotica a 24 hour invulnerability flag once it is invaded. Giving any owning legion a cool-down period where they can use the planet as they want and get the bonuses before it comes up for attack again. |
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| Author: | Xx Blitz xX [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Exotica NEEDS to have an incentive (Inspired by Noci's post) |
mojo311 wrote: Xx Blitz xX wrote: Great idea but I've always seen Exotica as a legion planet because it now takes a legion to take it. No one person can take the population down alone unless he has unlimited energy and if and when he did the odds of invading is very low because of the defense that is able to be stacked on it. On top of all of that it takes a legion to take out all of the ships guarding it and that's why I see it as a legion planet with one persons name on it. hey I did it. lol lol I know and you didn't get the planet ..... You invested so much in it and gained nothing from it personally to show for it. 
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