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 Low requirements for starting new legions, a bad thing? 
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Ok so I have noticed and continued to notice that a huge amount of new players, try to start their own legions instead of joining established legions.

This in itself is not necessarily a bad thing, except that most get bogged under the enormous weight of building a base, inevitably lose interest and quit.

I think the low rank requirement of founding a new legion is actually causing the game to lose new players.

By upping the requirements of founding a new legion it will promote the joining of smaller more established legions by new players.

I believe that the perks of being in a lively legion will keep more new players coming back.

Suggestions please.

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I'd raise it to 100 or so...

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Level 200 to even be promoted to officer or leader should be a simple fix to the problem.
Those under that at the moment stay until they get demoted at which point they cannot be promoted back.

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Sparky wrote:
Level 200 to even be promoted to officer or leader should be a simple fix to the problem.
Those under that at the moment stay until they get demoted at which point they cannot be promoted back.
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I'd raise it to 100 or so...

yes! +1

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As opposed to this, i would like a legion application system that is more applicant friendly. Namely allowing players to find and apply to legions that would be likely to accept them w/o having to go to the forum.

And frankly, if the above said was done, if a player doesn't have the IQ to figure out "oh, this isn't gonna work/isn't working well, I should find an established legion to join", well... I for one would think twice about letting such a player into my legion....

Right now, the above problem isn't fully the said newbie's fault, because under the current system the alternative, finding an established legion to join, might be a bit more troublesome than nessariy and some casual players might end up unable to do it. If we take this hurdle away, then I see no real reason to have a high minimal requirement.

For all we know, a possibly restarted uber tiny(low rank) with lots of $$ just might want a base of his own.. and should not be denied this right just cause there are some ppl who have below par IQ.

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hmm. Whilst I too do not suffer fools gladly, I think this pov is detrimental to bringing new players and keeping them.

I do agree strongly however that the Legion finding and joining process should be much more accessible to new players.

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Ok so I have noticed and continued to notice that a huge amount of new players, try to start their own legions instead of joining established legions.

This in itself is not necessarily a bad thing, except that most get bogged under the enormous weight of building a base, inevitably lose interest and quit.

I think the low rank requirement of founding a new legion is actually causing the game to lose new players.

By upping the requirements of founding a new legion it will promote the joining of smaller more established legions by new players.

I believe that the perks of being in a lively legion will keep more new players coming back.

Suggestions please.

I think the rank requirement should be raised, +1.
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Level 200 to even be promoted to officer or leader should be a simple fix to the problem.
Those under that at the moment stay until they get demoted at which point they cannot be promoted back.

I disagree. That way, training legions like Delta Destroyers wouldn't work. It should stay a trust thing, as it is now.

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Level 200 to even be promoted to officer or leader should be a simple fix to the problem.
Those under that at the moment stay until they get demoted at which point they cannot be promoted back.

I disagree to that. I took over a legion as leader at 135, yet I still had enough game experience to be able to lead. The legion fell apart after I left, with leaders higher levels than me. Leading is not about rank, but you need that rank there to be able to get anywhere with your base.

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strm avenger wrote:
Sparky wrote:
Level 200 to even be promoted to officer or leader should be a simple fix to the problem.
Those under that at the moment stay until they get demoted at which point they cannot be promoted back.

I disagree to that. I took over a legion as leader at 135, yet I still had enough game experience to be able to lead. The legion fell apart after I left, with leaders higher levels than me. Leading is not about rank, but you need that rank there to be able to get anywhere with your base.


Yeah I understand that, what about Rank 200 for leader position and rank 100 for officer position.

It will significantly shorten the amount of new legions added and with minimal effort from Dan to change it.

More working together will encourage more to stay and work towards ranking up so that they have the skills or some kind of knowledge to lead.

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to remove all current legions that meet this criteria

5 or less players older then a week which are
0-50% active


Dan can post a message as galaxy news that says all legions like this will be deleted

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There would have to be some sort of compensation to the hold outs, most of them won't leave because of all the work they put in

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Let current small legions continue to exist, and just put the restrictions upon the founding of new legions. Much less work and suffering for all.

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All the small legions that have nothing but inactive players need to be purged.


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There are quite a few, nice to keep around for silvers though

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Sorry Scabrous, just felt a bit talkative tonight :P

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Level 1-3 bases aren't good for silver, unless your base is tiny yourself.


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