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failname
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:13 am Posts: 1695
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All these kids whining about "ooh but we cant pay that upkeep because we are low ranks" IT'S MEANT FOR HIGH RANKS, hence the price dammit.
Add a min rank to those 15 active members, if they can only whine about something nice, make it so the whiners can't use it.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:57 pm |
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blakespon
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1441 Location: chilling inside of the epic Odyssey eating cookies
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what dude no. i LOVE egion missions here at delta surfers the upkeeps abit tougher but no big problem there we dont have 15 500+ only the top 30 legions do (were just below top 50 usually floating in the top 50-60 range in stregnth at any iven time) why should we be restricted?
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:00 pm |
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varunjitsingh146
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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-1. im low ranked and im definitely not whining about it.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:01 pm |
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Feldshan
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 1:57 pm Posts: 172
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Then I want the npcs to all be 500+ for rank and not 200. The upkeep should go up since 15 (500+) people should be able to put in more then just 10B a day, also the mission energy should go up as well as they should have higher energy amounts as 400 rank missions are at around 300 energy per 1 try, it should also take more ctp as rank 500+ should all have more then enough ctp to build it right now. Also if you want it to be for the high levels then it should take more then just 10 rounds to finish these missions. Up that to maybe 20 and it might be balanced with all the rest to make it around a rank 500 person.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:02 pm |
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Epicownage
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:37 pm Posts: 4415
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No this would be taking the requirements too far, it's good as it is as it caters for high rankers but also gives low rankers something to strive for that isn't too hard to reach.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:04 pm |
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Feldshan
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 1:57 pm Posts: 172
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Epicownage wrote: No this would be taking the requirements too far, it's good as it is as it caters for high rankers but also gives low rankers something to strive for that isn't too hard to reach. No low ranking 15 person 400- leveled legion can afford that upkeep. If they could they wouldn't have a lv 4 base.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:08 pm |
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Epicownage
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:37 pm Posts: 4415
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Feldshan wrote: Epicownage wrote: No this would be taking the requirements too far, it's good as it is as it caters for high rankers but also gives low rankers something to strive for that isn't too hard to reach. No low ranking 15 person 400- leveled legion can afford that upkeep. If they could they wouldn't have a lv 4 base. I made no reference to that in my post, please explain.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:10 pm |
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Devastation
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:17 pm Posts: 3632 Location: Gone.
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failname wrote: All these kids whining about "ooh but we cant pay that upkeep because we are low ranks" IT'S MEANT FOR HIGH RANKS, hence the price dammit.
Add a min rank to those 15 active members, if they can only whine about something nice, make it so the whiners can't use it. Quote me a post stating that these are specifically for high ranks. I don't see any.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:27 pm |
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Feldshan
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 1:57 pm Posts: 172
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Epicownage wrote: Feldshan wrote: Epicownage wrote: No this would be taking the requirements too far, it's good as it is as it caters for high rankers but also gives low rankers something to strive for that isn't too hard to reach. No low ranking 15 person 400- leveled legion can afford that upkeep. If they could they wouldn't have a lv 4 base. I made no reference to that in my post, please explain. Giving low rankers something to strive for that isn't too hard to reach: I am saying that unless you have a good amount of people in your legion to carry you to that mod a bunch of people that are under rank 400 are not going to be able to afford to get that mod any time soon. I am also saying that if there was a legion that have enough people in it to afford that mod they should have way more then a lv 4 base as there should be enough energy donations to be working on a lv 6 base by that point.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:27 pm |
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varunjitsingh146
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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XxDarthDexterxX wrote: failname wrote: All these kids whining about "ooh but we cant pay that upkeep because we are low ranks" IT'S MEANT FOR HIGH RANKS, hence the price dammit.
Add a min rank to those 15 active members, if they can only whine about something nice, make it so the whiners can't use it. Quote me a post stating that these are specifically for high ranks. I don't see any. their was a post in the coming soon thread, but dan has since edited it.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:29 pm |
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Epicownage
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:37 pm Posts: 4415
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Feldshan wrote: Giving low rankers something to strive for that isn't too hard to reach: I am saying that unless you have a good amount of people in your legion to carry you to that mod a bunch of people that are under rank 400 are not going to be able to afford to get that mod any time soon. I am also saying that if there was a legion that have enough people in it to afford that mod they should have way more then a lv 4 base as there should be enough energy donations to be working on a lv 6 base by that point. Precisely, something to strive for like I said. XxDarthDexterxX wrote: Quote me a post stating that these are specifically for high ranks. I don't see any. It has a 200 Billion and 2.5k ctp cost, has an upkeep of 10 Billion and all the missions require a hell of a lot of energy. I'd of thought that makes it pretty obvious.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:31 pm |
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senatorhung
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:09 am Posts: 3473
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LEGION missions are not meant for high-ranks. they are meant for LEGIONS.
so here's the continuum:
a few players (or 1) who can easily afford the cost / upkeep, with the rest of the legion tagging along (even though they will not be able to complete the mission due to mission requirements)
all the way to ...
a 60-strong legion with a rank 4 base, with everyone pulling together to pay upkeep and complete the missions
obviously things will be easier with a higher-ranked player, but it should NOT be a requirement.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:33 pm |
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thunderbolta
Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 11:01 am Posts: 5825 Location: Zolar
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Yes, it used to say that in the "coming soon" post.
But anyways, at TIS we've built ours, we're going to afford ours - with some difficulty - but we're going to manage it. This would waste our efforts (and CTP). We have 5 500+. We have to pitch in as a legion to afford it (though I think we do have players who could pay for it on their own - that isn't fair).
What I'm saying is (and I've since worked this out from my earlier post), is that the requirements are set as they are so that they are - in theory - available to actually a lot of people, it's just that some people will need to stretch their coffers. Like us. Now our rank 200s get to have fun with the missions (which present a serious challenge for them - but are justabout do-able) as well as all you 1000+.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:35 pm |
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Vanir
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:34 pm Posts: 108
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senatorhung wrote: LEGION missions are not meant for high-ranks. they are meant for LEGIONS.
so here's the continuum:
a few players (or 1) who can easily afford the cost / upkeep, with the rest of the legion tagging along (even though they will not be able to complete the mission due to mission requirements)
all the way to ...
a 60-strong legion with a rank 4 base, with everyone pulling together to pay upkeep and complete the missions
obviously things will be easier with a higher-ranked player, but it should NOT be a requirement. This. you need a legion whos working together and Wants it, and is all roughly the same level and pulling the same weight doesnt have to be a high level legion to make use of this new content.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:31 pm |
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Levrosh
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:35 pm Posts: 1975
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A complete -1. Just cus they whine doesn't mean there aren't a lot of other people out there doing them....
Though maybe a rank 100+ limit wouldn't be too bad.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:33 pm |
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Epicownage
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:37 pm Posts: 4415
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Levrosh wrote: A complete -1. Just cus they whine doesn't mean there aren't a lot of other people out there doing them....
Though maybe a rank 100+ limit wouldn't be too bad. Who under rank 100 is going to do them anyway, there's no need for that.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:34 pm |
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Levrosh
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:35 pm Posts: 1975
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Epicownage wrote: Levrosh wrote: A complete -1. Just cus they whine doesn't mean there aren't a lot of other people out there doing them....
Though maybe a rank 100+ limit wouldn't be too bad. Who under rank 100 is going to do them anyway, there's no need for that. I might....
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:43 pm |
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Epicownage
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:37 pm Posts: 4415
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Levrosh wrote: Epicownage wrote: Levrosh wrote: A complete -1. Just cus they whine doesn't mean there aren't a lot of other people out there doing them....
Though maybe a rank 100+ limit wouldn't be too bad. Who under rank 100 is going to do them anyway, there's no need for that. I might.... Under rank 100? That's gonna take a lot of effort, but if you do then fair enough.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:44 pm |
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KJReed
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:08 am Posts: 3142
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Feldshan wrote: Then I want the npcs to all be 500+ for rank and not 200. The upkeep should go up since 15 (500+) people should be able to put in more then just 10B a day, also the mission energy should go up as well as they should have higher energy amounts as 400 rank missions are at around 300 energy per 1 try, it should also take more ctp as rank 500+ should all have more then enough ctp to build it right now. Also if you want it to be for the high levels then it should take more then just 10 rounds to finish these missions. Up that to maybe 20 and it might be balanced with all the rest to make it around a rank 500 person. again with the npcs. the rank determines the damage cap and how much you do per hit. it doesnt mean the thing is meant for rank 200 to easily complete.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:46 pm |
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Silens
Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:42 am Posts: 779
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Alternative: Make individual missions have rank requirements. Only rank 400+ can do the NPC one, for example.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:45 pm |
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