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We currently have three ranks : member, officer and leader.

The only visible way to honor a player is to promote him/her officer.
But it isn't really practical and how to honor all and forget no one?

Many long standing players still enjoy the game and many among
them have taken a leisurely supportive place in many legions and
have been officers for a long time.

Meanwhile many enthusiastic new players have the energy to drive
the executive part of a legion.

I would add an honorary position.
The title, I suppose is a collective choice.

We do not demote our loyal friends and we can honor more.
and clarify legion chain of command.

Suggestions for title please. ?

I suggest : Commodore
tsk tsk don't post images of commodore 64 :mrgreen:

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Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:44 am
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Commander :

General purpose position - Can kick members, and discuss clandestine topics in officer channel. Can send Diplomacies and communicate with other legions.

Ambassador :

Can communicate with other legions using interlegion comm, can create and break diplomacies.

Prime Leader :

Can kick other leaders, has abillity to do everything.

Sub-leader:

has abillity to do everything but kick other leaders.


Base Tactical Officer

Generally organises and coordinates base attacks,

BTO has the abillity to accept invitations to base battles, has abillity to set BASE ANNOUNCEMENT, this announcement is seen only in the window prior to targeting a base. Invited legions can read the base announcement, base announcement is cleared when enemy base is disabled. Base announcements are used to declare whether if base is FFA or one shot only.


Tactical Officer

Co-ordinates inter-legion battles


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Common wrote:
Commander :

General purpose position - Can kick members, and discuss clandestine topics in officer channel. Can send Diplomacies and communicate with other legions.

Ambassador :

Can communicate with other legions using interlegion comm, can create and break diplomacies.

Prime Leader :

Can kick other leaders, has abillity to do everything.

Sub-leader:

has abillity to do everything but kick other leaders.


Base Tactical Officer

Generally organises and coordinates base attacks,

BTO has the abillity to accept invitations to base battles, has abillity to set BASE ANNOUNCEMENT, this announcement is seen only in the window prior to targeting a base. Invited legions can read the base announcement, base announcement is cleared when enemy base is disabled. Base announcements are used to declare whether if base is FFA or one shot only.


Tactical Officer

Co-ordinates inter-legion battles

nice! +! :)

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Common wrote:
Commander :

General purpose position - Can kick members, and discuss clandestine topics in officer channel. Can send Diplomacies and communicate with other legions.

Ambassador :

Can communicate with other legions using interlegion comm, can create and break diplomacies.

Prime Leader :

Can kick other leaders, has abillity to do everything.

Sub-leader:

has abillity to do everything but kick other leaders.


Base Tactical Officer

Generally organises and coordinates base attacks,

BTO has the abillity to accept invitations to base battles, has abillity to set BASE ANNOUNCEMENT, this announcement is seen only in the window prior to targeting a base. Invited legions can read the base announcement, base announcement is cleared when enemy base is disabled. Base announcements are used to declare whether if base is FFA or one shot only.


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Co-ordinates inter-legion battles

you took Plamok's idea and ran a wee bit farther afield I think. As Dan reads this i'm thinking he's screaming at the thought "OMG, the coding! the coding! they're killling me......"

lol even as I point out how far down the field you ran with it, i'm going to suggest something similar but perhaps a little easier for Dan - can leaders be given the ability to add a title instead of just officer or member? Ideally even those with officer abilities would be able to have different titles but that might make it too complicated i'm guessing to be worth the effort.

In my group I could see some we'd simply call brawlers, lol someone like Vito might wind up with the title master merchant given he's the only one still really hustling that angle I believe. Others might get something like "probe" or "probee" to indicate on probation for some reason....

thus your idea can be run with quite abit if someone wants to go ultra formal but for those more relaxed, it provides a amusing alternative while encouraging diversity, which for the game can only be a good thing i'd think.

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Plamok wrote:

Suggestions for title please. ?

I suggest : Commodore
tsk tsk don't post images of commodore 64 :mrgreen:

Plamok


on that one Plamok the one that comes to mind based on some sci fi novels read over the years would either be "Rear Admiral" or "Brigadier General" ala pirates of penzance but i'm sure there will be a number of ideas on it.

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so basically a renaming of current officer/leader duties.. dans time can be spent in better places then aesthetics

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whats wrong with what we have now, if your officers cant do there jobs and need restriction placed or you need set leaders or some stuff your failing!

All you did was brake down what every one dose in to like many diiferant categorizes, if you cant trust your officers not to cluster crack the jigits out things don't promote them.

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whats wrong with what we have now, if your officers cant do there jobs and need restriction placed or you need set leaders or some stuff your failing!

All you did was brake down what every one dose in to like many diiferant categorizes, if you cant trust your officers not to cluster crack the jigits out things don't promote them.

Plamok to be fair didn't suggest that all Soulplay. I only said maybe allow extra titles, no setting up different positions beyond the 3 though.

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Fear wrote:
itsSoulPLayAgain wrote:
whats wrong with what we have now, if your officers cant do there jobs and need restriction placed or you need set leaders or some stuff your failing!

All you did was brake down what every one dose in to like many diiferant categorizes, if you cant trust your officers not to cluster crack the jigits out things don't promote them.

Plamok to be fair didn't suggest that all Soulplay. I only said maybe allow extra titles, no setting up different positions beyond the 3 though.


Thank you.
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The title would have no impact on game mechanics, it is an alias.
The purpose is to solve the issue of promotions as a means of recognition.
An honorary title would be an alias and treated as such by game mechanics.
I am taking into accounts feelings and trying to propose a way out
of demoting an outstanding legion member because the legion is
becoming brass heavy. I can't demote an officer who has been loyal
for two years because he is less active in legion day to day organization.
That would be unbearable for many and for good reasons.
Be it commodore, admiral, etc. is a matter of consensus.
The purpose is to lighten command roster while maintained
earned recognition. I may be hard on forum at times but I'm
sensitive to certain aspects of involvement and how to recognize it.

Fear's idea of being able to edit rank description is fascinating.

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personally i see nothing wrong with this idea. if i read it right it seems like a reward to those who have been loyal to the legion. we already have rewards and titles for PVP and other things. why not add being a good member to the list.

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If a person has done enough for your legion to warrant a promotion, then why not just promote that person to officer? You either trust a person or you don't.

I don't see the point in having positions for persons in your legion because they're loyal friends or whatever other reason people come up with to make up new positions that hold no real power.


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personally i see nothing wrong with this idea. if i read it right it seems like a reward to those who have been loyal to the legion. we already have rewards and titles for PVP and other things. why not add being a good member to the list.


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If a person has done enough for your legion to warrant a promotion, then why not just promote that person to officer? You either trust a person or you don't.

I don't see the point in having positions for persons in your legion because they're loyal friends or whatever other reason people come up with to make up new positions that hold no real power.


Some members of my legion have been loyal for two years.
They remained loyal through legion difficulties and without them
my legion would be history. They are cornerstones and deserve
this. They can still be officers and leaders. But admit it
those new to the game have a stronger flame and also deserve
to be promoted on the base of their dynamism and willingness
to tackle day to day legion affairs.

I have seen enough ego to ballast the keel of a fleet of tall ships
on forum, look inside and examine your own feelings and tell
me you have no emotional investment in the game.

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Plamok wrote:
kirkeastment wrote:
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If a person has done enough for your legion to warrant a promotion, then why not just promote that person to officer? You either trust a person or you don't.

I don't see the point in having positions for persons in your legion because they're loyal friends or whatever other reason people come up with to make up new positions that hold no real power.


Some members of my legion have been loyal for two years.
They remained loyal through legion difficulties and without them
my legion would be history. They are cornerstones and deserve
this. They can still be officers and leaders. But admit it
those new to the game have a stronger flame and also deserve
to be promoted on the base of their dynamism and willingness
to tackle day to day legion affairs.

I have seen enough ego to ballast the keel of a fleet of tall ships
on forum, look inside and examine your own feelings and tell
me you have no emotional investment in the game.

Plamok


Kinda seems like your trying to add to some thing that works just fine!

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Plamok wrote:
kirkeastment wrote:
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If a person has done enough for your legion to warrant a promotion, then why not just promote that person to officer? You either trust a person or you don't.

I don't see the point in having positions for persons in your legion because they're loyal friends or whatever other reason people come up with to make up new positions that hold no real power.


Some members of my legion have been loyal for two years.
They remained loyal through legion difficulties and without them
my legion would be history. They are cornerstones and deserve
this. They can still be officers and leaders. But admit it
those new to the game have a stronger flame and also deserve
to be promoted on the base of their dynamism and willingness
to tackle day to day legion affairs.

I have seen enough ego to ballast the keel of a fleet of tall ships
on forum, look inside and examine your own feelings and tell
me you have no emotional investment in the game.

Plamok


My emotional attachment goes as far as to say i respect those i play alongside and i enjoy the many aspects of the game, that doesn't mean i think that if i'm in a legion for however long and am helpful and make friends and whatnot, that i deserve a honorary position.

If i was in a legion wherein the current officers or leaders thought i was doing a bang up job, i wouldn't want some pish posh honorary title, i'd prefer to get the promotion to officer, because clearly i would've done something to show i was helping the legion in a major way to get such an honorary title in the first place.

Would be better off just having a medal for staying with the same legion for 1 year / 2 years, as that shows loyalty and at least gives you a worthwhile reward for your loyalty.


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The point of this idea is to honor other players and create a better legion hiearchy. To all of you who gave this idea a -1 piss off. You are acting like misoneist idiots to ideas like this that would actually do some good and solve a few problems, both ethical and honorable.

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it gets a thumbs down simply because there are more important things for dan to work on, rather then create 5 new sub officer posts which should just be delegated to the officers currently in command. if you cant work the sht out without being singularly appointed, then you probably dont care enough in the first place to do those duties.
also, there would more then likely need to be 3 of each person per legion (assuming each person was on for 8 hours consecutively) so that there wouldnt be any gaps in specific base ability coverage.

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I am legion co-leader.
I have a bunch of new players with a tiger soul,
They deserve promotions because their
enthusiasm is fresh and intact,
they are the future of the game.

Am I going to bump a level 900 two year loyal member
to create a spot? The ones who always deal twice
the required damage on all NPCs and bases to help their
fellow members climb. Jeez you guys are socially deficient

I recognize who shoots down the idea and the motivation behind it,
I have slighted your ego at one time or another. So shoot the
messenger and kill the idea whatever value it has.

You have anger management issues, deal with it.

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maybe a medal for staying with a single legion for a certain amount of time. i think 2-6 months without leaving is a good time to stay with a single legion for the medal. the medal could come with a title of some sort.

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plamok, whats the point of the appointment though, that is so drastically different from the current setup... your just suggesting to add niche spots that arent needed. would i like to see different officer titles, actually i would, it would give a better fleshing out to the immersive(my own word) feel of the game, BUT, there are a million other things that dan needs to get to work on before some unneeded title changes

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