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It says your scientists analyse the data, so if there is a way wouldn't it be better if it was based of the amount of scientists you had.

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It says your scientists analyse the data, so if there is a way wouldn't it be better if it was based of the amount of scientists you had.


from in game balance: the amount of scienst is already affected by the AP pull, if the amount from the disc is affected by the scientist you have, it would quickly grow out of hand.

from realistic view: the amount of data on a disc is a constant, 10 ppl might analyze it faster than 1 person. But that doesn't make more data show up out of no where. It makes no sense to have a disc with ever expanding knowledge just cause you have more people. So as long as there is even one scientist left on your ship to do the job, the result should be the same.


On the other hand.... a realistic logical suggestion would make the disc:
1. unusable if there is no scientist on ship (lol, that takes a lot of bad luck)
2. give it a cd on use according to number of scientist on ship
3. there is a chance that a smaller than 700 amount is awarded if there are too few scientist on board. specifically, something might be over looked when there is just a few ppl around to check it out.
Ofc... that's unnessary complication that likely have no impact on the game so... probably not. However, this is much more realistic based than the OP if you want to consider real world concept from the text.

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If you want to give it a realistic approach, let it give between 0 and 1000 research.
Some disks will be broke, others will be perfect. Data will vary on importance and usefulness.

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If you want to give it a realistic approach, let it give between 0 and 1000 research.
Some disks will be broke, others will be perfect. Data will vary on importance and usefulness.

also diminishing return due to getting more and more data that you already have as time progress so less gain from that....
ofc, this can be, to some extend, compensated by data that you were previously unable to decifier but are able to later. So maybe it should be more like a bell curve, first goes up, then it goes down~

lolz, this suggestion is going the complete opposite direction as the OP's intend

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My idea was not completly thought out so i am glad to hear any ideas for it.

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I like the random idea, wouldn't do zero, maybe 100 to 1000 will a bell curve for the amount you get. There is always new data to be found even in old data, stuff gets overlooked every day.


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min 700 that what we get now maybe 700 to 1700 range


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I like the random idea, wouldn't do zero, maybe 100 to 1000 will a bell curve for the amount you get. There is always new data to be found even in old data, stuff gets overlooked every day.


but you would expect that you will find less useful data on the 10th copy of a same disc, wont u? u can only over look so much. And after a trillion disks, 10 copy of same thing is more likely.

Here is my proposition for a randomized formula.

(20+R)*Rand(1+50/sqr(D+100),1+500/sqr(D+100))
where R is total research tier you have completed (completed as in all sub tier of a tier, not just each tier)
D is the number of disks you ever used before
So the first ever disk will give around 150-2000 research depend on research done etc.
The 2400th disk, which will be likely after 100 techs are completed, will give 240-1320 research
The 9900th disk, which will be likely after 118 techs are completed, will give 207-828 research.

Ofc, the formula can be adjusted, but this is a more realistic model than the current for sure.

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who uses alien research disks these days anyway

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who uses alien research disks these days anyway


When new lab tech hits the market.

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who uses alien research disks these days anyway


Anyone who doesn't have the DM79 data center discovered yet and doesn't switch legions. Anyone who just doesn't have much artifact production yet or hasn't even research hybrid theory dynamics. Anyone who has it discovered, but doesn't buy extra grids and/or clouders to keep up with their alien data discs. Anyone who makes more data centers than they know what to do with.


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If you want to give it a realistic approach, let it give between 0 and 1000 research.
Some disks will be broke, others will be perfect. Data will vary on importance and usefulness.

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Xzien wrote:
If you want to give it a realistic approach, let it give between 0 and 1000 research.
Some disks will be broke, others will be perfect. Data will vary on importance and usefulness.

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Is that medal real, or did you fabricate it?

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min 700 that what we get now maybe 700 to 1700 range

this is a good idea

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Xzien wrote:
If you want to give it a realistic approach, let it give between 0 and 1000 research.
Some disks will be broke, others will be perfect. Data will vary on importance and usefulness.

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Is that medal real, or did you fabricate it?

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Then why are you wearing my work then?

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