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Darth Flagitious wrote:

Ho hum... Here we go with the leeching thing again...

Look... Stop overbuilding your bases. THAT is the issue, not who donates how many credits. What you guys are calling leeches are players that EVERY legion has and will ALWAYS have. It's unavoidable. Right now we have probably 6 or 7 people that regularly put credits into our base account. By your definition, LittleFluffy is the very worst kind of leech because he NEVER puts credits into our base. But you know what? I'd rather have more crew members like him. He constantly puts up shared elite/boss NPCs for everyone else to get planet/ship improving and ctp-scrapping artifacts. He hits bases hard. He helps coordinate base fights with our battlegroup. He just built 2 maxed toxics for another member so he could afford to switch off of Builder. He passes out common artifacts to whoever needs them. If he doesn't have them, he finds them on the trade markets. He helps advise our less experienced members on planet and ship layouts. One LittleFluffy is worth 20 people who log on, do a couple missions and donate 10B credits each every day.

Littlefluffy wrote:

Darth Flagitious wrote:

Hey! I donated twice, maybe 3 times...at least 51B credits. Though I only meant to put 5B I accidentally tacked on an extra 0.

edit: though I did sell the legion 20k ctp and take out that 400B credits...

Darth Flagitious wrote:

Littlefluffy wrote:

Darth Flagitious wrote:

See... You're 349B in the hole... Leech... :mrgreen:

neogoterra wrote:

No by leeches i mean players that dont help with base battles/ npcs/ guard planets or even say hello on the legion chat.

The members that the only thing they do give is a legion bonus......thats what i mean by leeches

neogoterra wrote:

This is something that would help a lot of the middle powered legions that are full grown but still have members that leech off the more productive members.

+1

neogoterra wrote:

Rambojr wrote:

One thing for sure....

How are you ppl gonna expect Dan to take seriously the Suggestions & Ideas topics when you guys are always cutting each other up on them just because it works for one legion and it doesn't for the others...

Its simple guys this is the Suggestions & Ideas topics and everyone has the right to post their ideas in it..this is not lets duke it out here just because I think my idea would work and don't care what other ppl think of it but wait some one else will post theirs with a supportive opinion..

If you don't like the idea don't post on it.. not even -1 cause ur are bumping it ...just move on and let it die..

No wonder Dan ignores them... in every Suggestions & Ideas topic that I have seen there always has been some sort of negativity towards it..

:roll:

neogoterra wrote:

It would help narrow it down or are you unable to see that? The only person that is agesnt it is you darth and your only argument is "its pointless".

So unless you can think of a good reason to keep spewing that BS you call "advice" please try to refrain from making yourself look like mysterion we already have enough childish players here on the forums.

Author:	Dark11c [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:37 pm ]
Post subject:	Base Donations %
From a legionmate: "wish this game kept track of fund donations... not just what was put in for the pass 5 days..." I am asking for a page, similar to base contributions but for donations. It would be a simple overview of who is donating and who are the leechers. edit later 8/15/2012: It could be just like upgrade page, just with credits. Also, i know this idea would be flamed, but maybe a CTL lab page? CTL lab isn't in the logs at all besides discoveries, and it is dependent on luck, but people who spent RP in the CTL lab could be listed.

Author:	chrisbrook [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:05 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
What?, like a guilty list of moochers....

Author:	varunjitsingh146 [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:07 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
+1 this would help us find out who the leeches are.

Author:	neogoterra [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:00 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
This is something that would help a lot of the middle powered legions that are full grown but still have members that leech off the more productive members. +1

Author:	kendryll [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:43 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
+1 and I would like to see research spent in CT lab as well

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Author:	chrisbrook [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:08 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
I expect most new guys to take the base rewards and not help. But officers and leaders should be able to handle this with out a game patch. Although Ill admit Id love to see the scorecard.. And Im sure some would not.

Author:	neogoterra [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:18 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
I'm still waiting to see darth coming in here on one of his rants saying " ITS MY MONEY WHAT I DO WITH IT IS MY BUSINESSES"

Author:	Wolfy Minion [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:25 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
Kind of a pointless statistic if you ask me, but that aside let's look at some potential problems. First do withdraws count? Would they be negative? If not, could I just keep putting in the same 1B credits and withdraw it until my % out ranks everyone else? What about those who come to a legion and use the base as a way to transfer credits to avoid the tariff? Would this % be used for anything other than display? Where would it go? Do building structures/selling them count for anything? I personally don't donate to the base. I can't afford it, my mining is just enough to cover my upkeep with a little wiggle room for maybe a planet invasion or colonization, or buying some ctp/artifacts. I help my legion in many many other ways, if you deem this to be the most important aspect, then you might lose out on some very good players.

Author:	neogoterra [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:38 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
To high ranking legions like yours fluffy i can see how this would be a pointless deal but to the little guys who are constantly having to fight to get and keep members this would be a priceless thing that will help weed out the leeches and i would say that a withdraw would count as a -%

Author:	Darth Flagitious [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:28 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
Ho hum... Here we go with the leeching thing again... Look... Stop overbuilding your bases. THAT is the issue, not who donates how many credits. What you guys are calling leeches are players that EVERY legion has and will ALWAYS have. It's unavoidable. Right now we have probably 6 or 7 people that regularly put credits into our base account. By your definition, LittleFluffy is the very worst kind of leech because he NEVER puts credits into our base. But you know what? I'd rather have more crew members like him. He constantly puts up shared elite/boss NPCs for everyone else to get planet/ship improving and ctp-scrapping artifacts. He hits bases hard. He helps coordinate base fights with our battlegroup. He just built 2 maxed toxics for another member so he could afford to switch off of Builder. He passes out common artifacts to whoever needs them. If he doesn't have them, he finds them on the trade markets. He helps advise our less experienced members on planet and ship layouts. One LittleFluffy is worth 20 people who log on, do a couple missions and donate 10B credits each every day.

Author:	Wolfy Minion [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:43 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
Darth Flagitious wrote: Ho hum... Here we go with the leeching thing again... Look... Stop overbuilding your bases. THAT is the issue, not who donates how many credits. What you guys are calling leeches are players that EVERY legion has and will ALWAYS have. It's unavoidable. Right now we have probably 6 or 7 people that regularly put credits into our base account. By your definition, LittleFluffy is the very worst kind of leech because he NEVER puts credits into our base. But you know what? I'd rather have more crew members like him. He constantly puts up shared elite/boss NPCs for everyone else to get planet/ship improving and ctp-scrapping artifacts. He hits bases hard. He helps coordinate base fights with our battlegroup. He just built 2 maxed toxics for another member so he could afford to switch off of Builder. He passes out common artifacts to whoever needs them. If he doesn't have them, he finds them on the trade markets. He helps advise our less experienced members on planet and ship layouts. One LittleFluffy is worth 20 people who log on, do a couple missions and donate 10B credits each every day. Hey! I donated twice, maybe 3 times...at least 51B credits. Though I only meant to put 5B I accidentally tacked on an extra 0. edit: though I did sell the legion 20k ctp and take out that 400B credits...

Author:	Preliator Xzien [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:48 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
Personally I'd rather have it just to get an idea on the average donations over time. I can see it work as a statistic to help building your base efficiently, but not much else. I give this a .5 because of it's less demanding trait, but not a full +1 because of redundancy.

Author:	Wolfy Minion [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:51 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
Darth Flagitious wrote: Littlefluffy wrote: Darth Flagitious wrote: Ho hum... Here we go with the leeching thing again... Look... Stop overbuilding your bases. THAT is the issue, not who donates how many credits. What you guys are calling leeches are players that EVERY legion has and will ALWAYS have. It's unavoidable. Right now we have probably 6 or 7 people that regularly put credits into our base account. By your definition, LittleFluffy is the very worst kind of leech because he NEVER puts credits into our base. But you know what? I'd rather have more crew members like him. He constantly puts up shared elite/boss NPCs for everyone else to get planet/ship improving and ctp-scrapping artifacts. He hits bases hard. He helps coordinate base fights with our battlegroup. He just built 2 maxed toxics for another member so he could afford to switch off of Builder. He passes out common artifacts to whoever needs them. If he doesn't have them, he finds them on the trade markets. He helps advise our less experienced members on planet and ship layouts. One LittleFluffy is worth 20 people who log on, do a couple missions and donate 10B credits each every day. Hey! I donated twice, maybe 3 times...at least 51B credits. Though I only meant to put 5B I accidentally tacked on an extra 0. edit: though I did sell the legion 20k ctp and take out that 400B credits... See... You're 349B in the hole... Leech... and yet we still have enough to last us 2 months without anyone donating.

Author:	neogoterra [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:11 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
No by leeches i mean players that dont help with base battles/ npcs/ guard planets or even say hello on the legion chat. The members that the only thing they do give is a legion bonus......thats what i mean by leeches For you guys this isnt a issue you have legions full of people who have huge production backed by a mid to high level group of players but for the little guys who we HAVE to build our base up or there will be no point in it lvl 2-4 bases get locked nearly once a day, and disabled most of those times unless someone is spending a boat ton of GP on it. So we have a option build it up and make it so income is a issue or contently get it disabled and get next to nothing in terms of production. I'm not saying this because its a issue to my legion any more we got enough members with good income now but I've been in the small guys shoes, and in some degrees my legion still is small seeing as we only have a agv. rank of 202 and thats just because we got a couple rank 400's to off set out 20+ members under rank 150....

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Author:	Wolfy Minion [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:19 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
neogoterra wrote: No by leeches i mean players that dont help with base battles/ npcs/ guard planets or even say hello on the legion chat. The members that the only thing they do give is a legion bonus......thats what i mean by leeches None of which will be measured by this. If you can't remember the last time someone did do those things...they probably are a leech. You don't need a useless counter for something that does not measure a player's activity in the slightest.

Author:	Rambojr [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:23 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
One thing for sure.... How are you ppl gonna expect Dan to take seriously the Suggestions & Ideas topics when you guys are always cutting each other up on them just because it works for one legion and it doesn't for the others... Its simple guys this is the Suggestions & Ideas topics and everyone has the right to post their ideas in it..this is not lets duke it out here just because I think my idea would work and don't care what other ppl think of it but wait some one else will post theirs with a supportive opinion.. If you don't like the idea don't post on it.. not even -1 cause ur are bumping it ...just move on and let it die.. No wonder Dan ignores them... in every Suggestions & Ideas topic that I have seen there always has been some sort of negativity towards it..

Author:	neogoterra [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:28 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
It would help narrow it down or are you unable to see that? The only person that is agesnt it is you darth and your only argument is "its pointless". So unless you can think of a good reason to keep spewing that BS you call "advice" please try to refrain from making yourself look like mysterion we already have enough childish players here on the forums.

Author:	Wolfy Minion [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:51 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Base Donations %
Rambojr wrote: One thing for sure.... How are you ppl gonna expect Dan to take seriously the Suggestions & Ideas topics when you guys are always cutting each other up on them just because it works for one legion and it doesn't for the others... Its simple guys this is the Suggestions & Ideas topics and everyone has the right to post their ideas in it..this is not lets duke it out here just because I think my idea would work and don't care what other ppl think of it but wait some one else will post theirs with a supportive opinion.. If you don't like the idea don't post on it.. not even -1 cause ur are bumping it ...just move on and let it die.. No wonder Dan ignores them... in every Suggestions & Ideas topic that I have seen there always has been some sort of negativity towards it.. I was pointing out potential problems with it so that they can be prevented and make the idea more likely to occur, though I am against it. I don't see why we shouldn't discuss them. neogoterra wrote: It would help narrow it down or are you unable to see that? The only person that is agesnt it is you darth and your only argument is "its pointless". So unless you can think of a good reason to keep spewing that BS you call "advice" please try to refrain from making yourself look like mysterion we already have enough childish players here on the forums. If I am donating credits to the base it is because I am less active, I am not an exception. I am against the idea for reasons I have already stated. neither you nor the OP has answered all my questions. If you really want this to happen stop wasting your time with name-calling Darth and improve the idea. For instance...(I am opposed to this as well but might as well help)... A tab that only leaders, possibly officers, and the ships themselves are able to see. It would be on individual ships maybe labeled activity. Under it would list the last time the person was on, the last time they guarded a planet, how much they donated to the base (credits/ctp/em/energy) and the time of the last donation. The last time they said something in the comm, and maybe what it was, number of elites they alerted and how many ranks they have gained over a certain duration of time. I think it is a complete waste of Dan's time to make this, but extremely useful as a way to measure certain metrics that show how active a person is.