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Author:  playret0195x [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Galaxy Legion Lottery
Well, who wouldn't wanna try their luck at winning prizes from lotteries. I was thinking that there could be four different type of lotteries in the game:

1. GP lottery, players spend 5GP a go for a ticket with 6 different numbers on it. If you match four of those numbers you win 5GP. Match 5 and you win 20GP. Match all 6 and you get a split at the GP prize pool. (which is 90% of all the GP spent on the tickets)
2. CTP lottery, players spend 25 CTP a go for a ticket eith 6 different numbers on it. If you match four of those numbers you win 25 CTP. Match 5 and you win 100CTP. Match all 6 and you get a split at the CTP prize pool. (Which is 90% of all the CTP spent on the tickets)
3. Credits lottery, Players pick a number 1 - 50. They spend x amount of credits on that bet and if their number choice was two off from winning then they win their credits back. If it was one off from winning then they win double the credits spent. If they chose the right number then they win 5x their bet.
4. EM lottery, (Same thing as the Credits lottery)
Author:  Rambojr [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
playret0195x wrote:
Well, who wouldn't wanna try their luck at winning prizes from lotteries. I was thinking that there could be four different type of lotteries in the game:

1. GP lottery, players spend 5GP a go for a ticket with 6 different numbers on it. If you match four of those numbers you win 5GP. Match 5 and you win 20GP. Match all 6 and you get a split at the GP prize pool. (which is 90% of all the GP spent on the tickets)
2. CTP lottery, players spend 25 CTP a go for a ticket eith 6 different numbers on it. If you match four of those numbers you win 25 CTP. Match 5 and you win 100CTP. Match all 6 and you get a split at the CTP prize pool. (Which is 90% of all the CTP spent on the tickets)
3. Credits lottery, Players pick a number 1 - 50. They spend x amount of credits on that bet and if their number choice was two off from winning then they win their credits back. If it was one off from winning then they win double the credits spent. If they chose the right number then they win 5x their bet.
4. EM lottery, (Same thing as the Credits lottery)



+1.. Good idea..( To the rest of the analyzer ppl, try not to jack his thread with ur opinions its his idea either you like it +1 or you don't -1, your idea means nothing its his thread and his idea only)
Author:  Legionaire [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
+1 i always used to bug on about this idea so we need ppl keep mentioning it to get it implemented
Author:  KJReed [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
Credit and em payout is too low for the chances. Exactly right should pay more like 25x or more.

Ctp and gp numbers may need some tweaking. Too much for me to be bothered with the numbers at this very moment.


How long is the pool for gp and ctp?
Author:  playret0195x [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
KJReed wrote:
Credit and em payout is too low for the chances. Exactly right should pay more like 25x or more.

Ctp and gp numbers may need some tweaking. Too much for me to be bothered with the numbers at this very moment.


How long is the pool for gp and ctp?


Until someone wins it. So it can get very large. When people see the high prize pool they will want to win it, so they will spend GP/CTP to win it.
Author:  KJReed [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
playret0195x wrote:
KJReed wrote:
Credit and em payout is too low for the chances. Exactly right should pay more like 25x or more.

Ctp and gp numbers may need some tweaking. Too much for me to be bothered with the numbers at this very moment.


How long is the pool for gp and ctp?


Until someone wins it. So it can get very large. When people see the high prize pool they will want to win it, so they will spend GP/CTP to win it.

Range of the 6 numbers and can they be repeated?
Author:  playret0195x [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
KJReed wrote:
playret0195x wrote:
KJReed wrote:
Credit and em payout is too low for the chances. Exactly right should pay more like 25x or more.

Ctp and gp numbers may need some tweaking. Too much for me to be bothered with the numbers at this very moment.


How long is the pool for gp and ctp?


Until someone wins it. So it can get very large. When people see the high prize pool they will want to win it, so they will spend GP/CTP to win it.

Range of the 6 numbers and can they be repeated?


No it works just like a regular lottery. If no one gets the 6 numbers at the end of the day then 6 new numbers are chosen for the next day. And so on, until someone gets all 6 correct.
Author:  KJReed [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
Not what I meant.

Range as in 1-100? 1-9? 1-50?

And repeated numbers as in could a draw be 1 23 24 23 56 52?
Author:  playret0195x [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
KJReed wrote:
Not what I meant.

Range as in 1-100? 1-9? 1-50?

And repeated numbers as in could a draw be 1 23 24 23 56 52?


No they can't be repeated. And the numbers would range from 1 - 60. Giving you a 10% chance of one of your numbers being correct.
Author:  Darth Flagitious [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
-1 for SO many reasons. But since Rambo said we're not allowed to analyze it in the thread, I guess I'll have to keep those reasons to myself and let you all give it +1s like little well behaved sheep. But I will leave this one tidbit for you. If only 300 people enter the GPLotto, a winner would take 1350 GP. That's just a bit OP dontcha think?
Author:  playret0195x [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
Darth Flagitious wrote:
-1 for SO many reasons. But since Rambo said we're not allowed to analyze it in the thread, I guess I'll have to keep those reasons to myself and let you all give it +1s like little well behaved sheep. But I will leave this one tidbit for you. If only 300 people enter the GPLotto, a winner would take 1350 GP. That's just a bit OP dontcha think?


I guess we will either have to lower the odds of winning, or lower the price per ticket to 2 GP. You happy now?
Author:  Darth Flagitious [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
playret0195x wrote:
Darth Flagitious wrote:
-1 for SO many reasons. But since Rambo said we're not allowed to analyze it in the thread, I guess I'll have to keep those reasons to myself and let you all give it +1s like little well behaved sheep. But I will leave this one tidbit for you. If only 300 people enter the GPLotto, a winner would take 1350 GP. That's just a bit OP dontcha think?


I guess we will either have to lower the odds of winning, or lower the price per ticket to 2 GP. You happy now?


Not really. As I said, that's just one of many bad things about a lottery.
Author:  playret0195x [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
Darth Flagitious wrote:
playret0195x wrote:
Darth Flagitious wrote:
-1 for SO many reasons. But since Rambo said we're not allowed to analyze it in the thread, I guess I'll have to keep those reasons to myself and let you all give it +1s like little well behaved sheep. But I will leave this one tidbit for you. If only 300 people enter the GPLotto, a winner would take 1350 GP. That's just a bit OP dontcha think?


I guess we will either have to lower the odds of winning, or lower the price per ticket to 2 GP. You happy now?


Not really. As I said, that's just one of many bad things about a lottery.


What were the rest of them? Feel free to tell me.
Author:  KJReed [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
Darth Flagitious wrote:
-1 for SO many reasons. But since Rambo said we're not allowed to analyze it in the thread, I guess I'll have to keep those reasons to myself and let you all give it +1s like little well behaved sheep. But I will leave this one tidbit for you. If only 300 people enter the GPLotto, a winner would take 1350 GP. That's just a bit OP dontcha think?

I was thinking take the winnings from 5 and 4 right out of the jackpot. Those payouts also should probably be increased. Then maybe also drop the percent that the werner gets. 90 is a bit high.

And darth that's kinda the draw. You spend 5 gp for the chance for alot. That's how lotteries work. Wouldn't call that op. Easy way for dan to make money.
Author:  playret0195x [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
EDIT:

Well, who wouldn't wanna try their luck at winning prizes from lotteries. I was thinking that there could be four different type of lotteries in the game:

1. GP lottery, players spend 3GP a go for a ticket with 6 different numbers on it. If you match four of those numbers you win 5GP. Match 5 and you win 20GP. Match all 6 and you get a split at the GP prize pool. (which is 75% of all the GP spent on the tickets)
2. CTP lottery, players spend 25 CTP a go for a ticket eith 6 different numbers on it. If you match four of those numbers you win 25 CTP. Match 5 and you win 100CTP. Match all 6 and you get a split at the CTP prize pool. (Which is 90% of all the CTP spent on the tickets)
3. Credits lottery, Players pick a number 1 - 50. They spend x amount of credits on that bet and if their number choice was two off from winning then they win their credits back. If it was one off from winning then they win double the credits spent. If they chose the right number then they win 10x their bet.
4. EM lottery, (Same thing as the Credits lottery)
Author:  playret0195x [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
If anything this would urge more players to buy GP and gamble them for a chance to win big. With a net loss of 25% of the GP spent by players Dan can't lose withthis idea. This would actually make him some more money.
Author:  Legionaire [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
how bout a lottery where you use credits to win credits from the lottery?
Author:  KJReed [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
Legionaire wrote:
how bout a lottery where you use credits to win credits from the lottery?


Its there. Check the third point.
Author:  Darth Flagitious [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
Ok since the original poster trumps Rambo, here's a little more detail on the very biggest reason I give this a -1.

Let's do a little math now on the GP Lotto. Taking the proposed 6 number 1-60, there is a 1:36Billion chance of hitting. So it's likely to not hit very often. So if we have 300 people plunk down 5GP every drawing, after 10 drawings there would be a total of 15000 GP in the pot. If the winner only gets 50% of that, it's 7500GP. Do you have any idea what someone that knows what they are doing can do with 7500GP? Now, if after 10 drawings there still is no Grand Prize winner, the pot is going to entice more people to try. Let's assume an additional 25 people per drawing. By the 20th round, you now have a total of 36,875GP in the pot. At 50% a winner would get 18,937GP. Right there is 1893 energy refills, at 10k energy per bar... I imagine I would be able to get some nice artifact planets for donating 18 million energy to a midrank legion base. And remember... That's with a conservative entry pool of 300 at the start, a conservative payout percentage, and an extremely conservative "time till win".

CTP is going to work the same way. Only with a factor of 5x involved.
Author:  KJReed [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Galaxy Legion Lottery
Okay darth youre showing that the numbers are bad, and I will agree there. you haven't shown a problem with the concept though.
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