What about adding two more Probes:

Spy Probe- Hull (Same points needed as the resource probe)

Spy Probe -Shields (Same as above)


What do you think?

nice idea but -1 since cloak does 2 things: hide the ship from the bt and cloak the modules.

True, but defenses need the most scan to see, and we have a probe for that.

We get to know enough about the other player's ship already, we don't need this.

Just pop a couple flares on them if you want to see their general hull

general hull. pvp should still have some sort of surprise with the brackets. If I see he has 6k general hull but the probe reads 14k I know how many shots I would need therefore it would take any fun out of pvp

Nothing is a guarantee, ever. But with seeing their hull modules, you still get a general idea. The only person out there who's a fluke to this is Anzid/Ghetto/LordLucious/xxdarthbunny/Cursed/DamnedOne.

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that's my hull mods...can you guess my hull within o say +/-2k?

Possibly, but I don't feel like practicing math right now.

roughly 12k from the modules and another 13k from brackets. my guess so 25k hull?

not even within +/-5k. Also I talterian excavator so no bonus from race/prof. My point is knowing the modules only really matters at low levels.

50k?

haven't been playing that long

call me crazy but how about a useful probe, like a crew probe?

while not drastically usefull, its still a shine more so than hull, and more realistic, as "life sign" scans have been around since star trek episdoe 1 circa 1966...

Hmm... How about just keep shooting till they're dead and save your artifact points for something useful like... I dunno... Rescued Prisoners?

Any time you add an artifact to the draw pool, it lowers the chances of getting "the good stuff" like prisoners, brackets, helms, xcharge, etc. The last thing that did that was the Null Fuse and I'm actually getting tired of drawing bunches of those. And PLEASE don't go to the make it an NPC drop page... This would actually top the Shadin Algorithm for "Most Useless" mass produced NPC loot.

while normally i'd agree with you on that, im lucky to get 1 prisoner a day and im sitting at 13k, i know im just getting unlucky with my draws, but this drought is just shy of a week now

That's exactly my point Elerian... Why dilute the pool further for a 99% useless artifact when people are already "complaining" of low ship-builder draws?

Wont dispute the point, crap happens and we move on. However dan is starting to provide missions that make sue of rather useless things so...fingers crossed that this new chain has something exciting in it. But so far, nothing overly impressive.

It's only two missions in, plenty of time left yet.

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