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Necrokristo
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:43 pm Posts: 130
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i have thought about it over and over again. having a ship module which would reduce how much exp is earned. maybe an artifact similar to the neural interface which would stop all exp earned for 15 mins.
everyone's playing style is different and not everyone is trying to have a high rank ship with weak stats. would make freeze rank more efficient.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:17 am |
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varunjitsingh146
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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sounds more like an artifact but +1
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:21 am |
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TheMagicBean
Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:14 am Posts: 323
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-1 I don't want to see lvl 3s running around with 4 cannons and 3 armories.And I think we should incurage those low ranks to rank up. Honestly if this artifact exists you would have the kill leaderboards filled with rank 3s because they would farm rank 4s without worrying about retaliation.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:21 am |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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Not this again...
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:22 am |
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varunjitsingh146
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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TheMagicBean wrote: -1 I don't want to see lvl 3s running around with 4 cannons and 3 armories.And I think we should incurage those low ranks to rank up. Honestly if this artifact exists you would have the kill leaderboards filled with rank 3s because they would farm rank 4s without worrying about retaliation. it sounds more like a artifact that would be good for higher ranks who dont want to outrank the game's content.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:29 am |
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TheMagicBean
Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:14 am Posts: 323
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varunjitsingh146 wrote: TheMagicBean wrote: -1 I don't want to see lvl 3s running around with 4 cannons and 3 armories.And I think we should incurage those low ranks to rank up. Honestly if this artifact exists you would have the kill leaderboards filled with rank 3s because they would farm rank 4s without worrying about retaliation. it sounds more like a artifact that would be good for higher ranks who dont want to outrank the game's content. It works for both really.Low rank players can become really really strong before ranking.I hear High ranked players complaining about certain NPCs disappearing after certain ranks would love the artifact too.Honestly I would love to own the artifact, but not as much as I would hate others having it.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:33 am |
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varunjitsingh146
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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TheMagicBean wrote: varunjitsingh146 wrote: TheMagicBean wrote: -1 I don't want to see lvl 3s running around with 4 cannons and 3 armories.And I think we should incurage those low ranks to rank up. Honestly if this artifact exists you would have the kill leaderboards filled with rank 3s because they would farm rank 4s without worrying about retaliation. it sounds more like a artifact that would be good for higher ranks who dont want to outrank the game's content. It works for both really.Low rank players can become really really strong before ranking.I hear High ranked players complaining about certain NPCs disappearing after certain ranks would love the artifact too.Honestly I would love to own the artifact, but not as much as I would hate others having it. i think in that case make it so only high ranks can get it.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:36 am |
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Necrokristo
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:43 pm Posts: 130
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that is correct. this artifact would mainly be used by mid-rank players who see their ships at a disadvantage compared to other ship in their rank because of poor mistakes they made early in the game. would give their ship a second chance.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:38 am |
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TheMagicBean
Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:14 am Posts: 323
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Necrokristo wrote: that is correct. this artifact would mainly be used by mid-rank players who see their ships at a disadvantage compared to other ship in their rank because of poor mistakes they made early in the game. would give their ship a second chance. Erm im convinced +1
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:39 am |
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KJReed
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:08 am Posts: 3142
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Darth Flagitious wrote: Not this again... Eh. Its been awhile. Someone had to. How many plus ones til you tell them why not?
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:00 am |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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KJReed wrote: Darth Flagitious wrote: Not this again... Eh. Its been awhile. Someone had to. How many plus ones til you tell them why not? Not in the mood right now. Suffice to say it would have a destabilizing effect on the whole game.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:09 am |
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TheMagicBean
Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:14 am Posts: 323
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Darth Flagitious wrote: KJReed wrote: Darth Flagitious wrote: Not this again... Eh. Its been awhile. Someone had to. How many plus ones til you tell them why not? Not in the mood right now. Suffice to say it would have a destabilizing effect on the whole game. Give us some sort of thread?Since it sounds like this has been posted before.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:17 am |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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Oh FFS... People need to learn how to use the damn Search function... This oneAnd this oneAnd this oneAnother oneA little different butHere we goSluggies!Even found a poll Mitch got into it...MoreNeandertals againI stopped at page 20 of 28 with that particular search. Goes back well over a year. Obviously, if a negative experience mechanic was a good idea, Dan would have put it in already judging by his anti-autorank tendencies. The bottom line is, if you don't want experience (and I said this in one of the above threads) don't do anything. Take your relays or reactors out. Hack and raid for no points. Use your cabbage head for something other than cole slaw. Be strategic. Can you imagine if some of the people that play this game with 15k, 20k energy bars got no experience for NPCing? Scarf down a few cubes or Tmats and a stupid pill and get countless production boosting artifacts.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:13 am |
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Zargor
Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:39 pm Posts: 1430
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Darth Flagitious wrote: Use your cabbage head for something other than cole slaw. Haha that is good.  Sounds like a nice idea but -1, Darth is right, u don't need this artifact when u can freeze rank without the arti by hacking/raiding, researching, not doing a thing but logging on. This arti is not needed, and is not important on the to-do-list.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:42 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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I want it, but I'm failing to see just how destabilizing it could be. OMG, WE CAN'T LET THE SLOW RANKERS DO MISSIONS AT NO XP GAIN! NOT EVEN THE ONES WHICH ONLY GIVE XP!
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Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:35 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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strm avenger wrote: I want it, but I'm failing to see just how destabilizing it could be. OMG, WE CAN'T LET THE SLOW RANKERS DO MISSIONS AT NO XP GAIN! NOT EVEN THE ONES WHICH ONLY GIVE XP! You mean to tell me you can't see how it would be a bad thing for people to do a no xp cube through of let's say the Xecti or Trellith chains?
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Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:53 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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No, not particularly. Let's face it. A rank 20 isn't going to get much from either chain.
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Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:56 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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strm avenger wrote: No, not particularly. Let's face it. A rank 20 isn't going to get much from either chain. Tell that to the rank 24 that gets seen on a rank 40's BT. Low rank tech has such low requirements that 11 research planets each with a Xecti repeater and Hoveroid would give that R40 a MASSIVE advantage. That's +15.5% research on all of those planets plus another 30% possible with the Trellith Influence. I've got an enemy owned VL Abundant Gas planet scanned. Owner is rank 40. Produces 30 rph. Pretty average for a lowbie planet. With the full combination described above, it would produce 45.045 rph. Multiply that by 3, plus another 8 planets at 34.65, that rank 40 that Neadertal'd his way through those missions would be making an extra 82.335 rph. Over 24 hours that's 1976.04 rp. Considering the lower tier research takes only a few thousands of rp per tier, an extra 2k per day is pretty solid for advancing quickly tech-wise. Now imagine if that person gets a GOOD planet shared by a legionmate.
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Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:21 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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And alot of low levels are in research bases. 25k/day. Now, when a rank 40 slow ranker who's been in a research legion and has Q-Devs anyway, tell THAT to the rank 24 who couldn't find a legion.
EDIT: And yes, Q-Devs are realistic.
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Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:25 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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strm avenger wrote: And alot of low levels are in research bases. 25k/day. Now, when a rank 40 slow ranker who's been in a research legion and has Q-Devs anyway, tell THAT to the rank 24 who couldn't find a legion.
EDIT: And yes, Q-Devs are realistic. Couldn't find a legion? Seriously? Base payouts do very little to give low ranks an advantage over each other. They only make those lowbies stronger compared to old timers when we were lowbies and didn't have a daily boost like that. You talk about a slow ranker gaining an advantage. That's fine. That's a strategic decision that takes PLANNING, EFFORT and SACRIFICE. They sacrifice a lot of game features to gain that advantage. Be it mission rewards, NPC drops, etc. Having a null xp mechanism allows people to slow rank while still enjoying the full game experience. I really can't understand why people can't see that giving people the advantage of a slow rank style without the disadvantages is a good thing. It's bad at any level. Lemme save up about 20 energy refills, pop a retardo-pill and go NPCing for a few hours. Wonder how many Terraformers and Quasis I can find. Betcha I get enough to make a couple pretty sweet planets.
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Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:00 pm |
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