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Author:  Nocifer Deathblade [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:13 am ]
Post subject:  K. Virus Trap for PC ONLY..
Hello,

K. Virus (90% debuff) should be only restricted to PVP fight. We need to continue fighting NPCs even with K. Virus effect on. You made halycon traps restricted to PVP only so we can continue to fight NPCs so why not K. Virus? Thanks. ;)
Author:  Remric [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: K. Virus Trap for PC ONLY..
yah that would be less down time ;)
Author:  Obscura [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:16 am ]
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+1 one to this. Since the halcyon is already this way it should not be a hard tweak.
Author:  zophah [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:28 am ]
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I disagree. Part of it's effectiveness is to limit their NPC intake as well.
Author:  Cothordin [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:58 am ]
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zophah wrote:
I disagree. Part of it's effectiveness is to limit their NPC intake as well.

I agree, if you dont want to have to stop with your NPCs dont PVP, if you want PVP deal with it.
Author:  silentknight [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:10 am ]
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Although I agree with the spirit of this post, 30 minutes is not realy that much of a down time to worry about. I veiw the KV trap as less of a defensive deterent as it is more of a way to sucker your opponent in then retaliate back once he's weak.
Author:  mojo311 [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:10 pm ]
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Cothordin wrote:
zophah wrote:
I disagree. Part of it's effectiveness is to limit their NPC intake as well.

I agree, if you dont want to have to stop with your NPCs dont PVP, if you want PVP deal with it.



Sorry I couldn't let this just slide by. We where happy fighting NPC's but then the galaxy claimed war on us so what did you think would happen?! Most of us did not want to PVP its you guys who thought that we needed to be provoked into fighting everyone.

I also agree that the KV should not affect NPC fighting just as the H trap does not.
Author:  hunter [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:36 pm ]
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NO, to virus being PC only. next they will ask that NPC debuffs are NPC only :P
Author:  Y2KJMan [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:27 pm ]
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I would have to disagree, I believe that it should stay for both PC and NPC at this point in the game.

When you guys (the Dysonians) are the undisputed most powerful legion in game, both for NPC and PC, and start a war... expect people to not like it. However, just because you want to be able to farm NPC's while under the effect of the virus, which means the virus would in all actuality slow you down absolutely none. I do not believe that is in the spirit of the game.

P.S. Mojo... if you dont remember... the Dysonians declared war on Galaxy Desperados well before that chunk of the playerbase declared war on you. Dont act all innocent like :P
Author:  mojo311 [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:39 pm ]
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Gamielel wrote:
I would have to disagree, I believe that it should stay for both PC and NPC at this point in the game.

When you guys (the Dysonians) are the undisputed most powerful legion in game, both for NPC and PC, and start a war... expect people to not like it. However, just because you want to be able to farm NPC's while under the effect of the virus, which means the virus would in all actuality slow you down absolutely none. I do not believe that is in the spirit of the game.

P.S. Mojo... if you dont remember... the Dysonians declared war on Galaxy Desperados well before that chunk of the playerbase declared war on you. Dont act all innocent like :P



Only if you consider them stealing a Very massive 15X mega rich in all resources Exotic from us and we attacking back, us starting a war. What would you of done in this case?? We told them to give it back and we would not attack and we only attacked the offender for the first day telling him what would happen if he did not give it back. But this was not the first offense they did to us. Before this they stole 3 or 4 other rare worlds from us that we let just slide with no real attack backs on them. So I ask what would you have us do??

Also I can see your points on the KV trap but I don't see how that effects you guys if we attack NPC's I'm sure us attacking them has helped those how took our worlds as well. Ask Hunterx how he is liking my mining world that I used 3 expanders, and 6 or 7 toxic purifiers on. I bet he loves how much NPC fighting I do.
Author:  Y2KJMan [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:35 pm ]
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I can understand what you are saying, but you have to remember... the game is balanced around being PvP or PvE (NPC's) exclusively, until you decide to change your tack and go at the other part of the game.

When you guys can do everything in the game without changing your tack at all.... and then ask for one of the only artifacts that can slow you down (even if only for a little while)... it gives you guys the unfair advantage. Post after post shows logs of dead npc's or saying it takes 4 hits to clear some trash npcs. Why shouldnt you be slowed down? Why should the Dysonians be able to make the decision that of how it should work for the rest of the playerbase?

If I had to guess, I would say that the majority of the playerbase would keep the artifact as is if they knew that it slowed yall down. Even though all you have to do is save the energy and use it when the arti runs out.


P.S. They stole a planet, you declared war. Therefore... you started it :P
Author:  bobsmith [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:26 pm ]
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If it wasn't apparent before it should be now. You can not truly separate this game into pvp and pve. One way or another you are sucked into both. however debuffs placed into specific categories should be a reasonable request. Everyone just sees it as benefiting us, when like usual it benefits everyone. It is only 30 minutes and it isn't big deal, this isn't some huge game changing request, it's just a matter of convenience.
Author:  Y2KJMan [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:55 pm ]
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If it isnt that big of a deal... why even ask for it?
Author:  Mark W [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:58 pm ]
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Gamielel wrote:
If it isnt that big of a deal... why even ask for it?

Because it would be a nice thing for many people.
Author:  Y2KJMan [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:01 pm ]
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My point still stands, if it is a nice thing for so many people... why arent more asking?

I will stick to my guns on this... its just a speed bump... deal with it like the rest of us. Or just cuz yall are on top of the game... you want the rules tailored to you?
Author:  bobsmith [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:07 pm ]
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As previously stated it's a matter of convenience, not a game altering advantage. If it doesn't go through that's fine, it is....a suggestion.

I'm sure if we said that we all quit our jobs and just sat here 24/7 more people would cry out cheaters! We need to implement time restrictions on how long you can play!
Author:  zophah [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:30 pm ]
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I do see that there is a perfectly good reason for having it effect PC's only, but the game traps seem perfectly balanced the way they are now. If you want to keep hitting NPCs, try triggering a hyclon trap instead. :)
Author:  Remric [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:08 am ]
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You know I see why people see our legion as the evil ones..

1. We have a more efficient NPC hunting strategy
2. They see that most of us have all the NPC drops already complete
3. They are threatened that if they don't find a way to slow us down we will dominate the game
4. People (organization, and even other countries) will always suspect that the "big" one is planning something.
5. They see that we provide an unfair advantage and should be taken down (jealousy)

Honestly I really don't give a damm if the Kriounus trap is not modified to PVP only. 1st it only affects people who attack other players. and before this war my Player kills was at 118. I haven't shot down any player in 2-3 months. But of course since we got provoked of course we will go on the offensive.

As a group we can still schedule our NPC fights.. we will always have the advantage that if we want to kill NPC we can still kill NPC as efficiently as possible. Krionus Virus Trap in the 1st place only affect your ship if you go on the PVP route.. and most of the time were on the PVE route.

Gamielel wrote:
Post after post shows logs of dead npc's or saying it takes 4 hits to clear some trash npcs.


Gamielel, Its not our fault that we designed our ships to efficiently deal with NPC, We planned our gameplay to be PVE, We really did not care about PVP when the new legion started. Instead of being envious of our ability to take out trash NPC you should work on improving your ship design, knowing that such a feat is possible. Its not our fault if HARDCORE players decided to band together for a common goal.

Nocifier, made this legion to bring serious players into one basket, were not here to babysit each other, were here to be an efficient group. Unlike most Legions that gets members with a wide range of Ranks, Our legion design is made for PVE, that has still remained to be the core mission of the legion and will always be the focus of our legion.

Our intent to have the Krionus Virus Trap exclusive to PVP is (in my honest belief) a benefit to the whole community. Of course if you are threatened by our whole compliment of NPC Parts and our ability to get more NPC Parts, then feel free to vote no on this suggestion after all,

Were on the same boat on this one, What slows us down will also slow you down.
Author:  Cothordin [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:16 am ]
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Remric wrote:
Were on the same boat on this one, What slows us down will also slow you down.

The only people I think this will really benefit are people who are currently a balancing problem due to them being too powerful. So I really dont see any reason why to change it.
Author:  Remric [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:23 am ]
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Cothordin wrote:
The only people I think this will really benefit are people who are currently a balancing problem due to them being too powerful. So I really dont see any reason why to change it.


Since were on the topic of balancing why dont we set a level cap say Rank 700, and then just refill the energy and add 5 rank points every time that player makes about 25k experience... That way everyone can make it up to level 700 and then we can fight on same ranks...

Then it would only be a fight on who designs a better ship.
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