Influence of Exotica ability
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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As I understand it, the ability gives a 1% bonus per day (max 10%) to a legion's base payout for holding Exotica beyond 24 hours. With the medal changes made over the last few months, that is essentially NO incentive for a legion to hold the planet any longer than 8 hours. It takes a legion-wide effort to conquer Exotica (in nearly all cases) and it takes a legion-wide effort to hold Exotica for the 8 hours so an INDIVIDUAL can get a bonus. After 8 hours, it becomes a purple dog turd you want to scrape off the bottom of your shoe. It is no longer a King of the Hill type planet worth holding any longer than necessary for the medal. I suggest the Influence ability be increased substantially to return Exotica to it's former glory. As it stands, there's little reason to bother actually fighting for it because eventually everyone will get a turn. The 8 hour thing is nice and all for the guy that gets the lucky roll, but his legion needs some love for helping hold onto the Great Purple Turd.
5% per day to a max of 50% would be incentive for legions to treat it as something other than a cheap hooker.
Thoughts?
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:29 pm |
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Fear
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:41 am Posts: 1069
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I'm not sure about where the cheap hooker came from BUT otherwise
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:32 pm |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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i would say 10% each day to a max of 100%, and upon the 12th day it auto abandons itself. make it an honestly worthwhile reward, and even at 10% a day.... level 7 base, ~60-70K output a day, the ranks of people holding and GETTING exotica, DONT CARE ABOUT 1%, or even 10%, at 55K for our base, thats less then 2 hours of production.. big whoop. and with an extra 10%, thats 1/5th of an hour.. or a few raids.. even at 100%, if the auto abandon option is used, its only a few days of a DECENT bonus.
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:48 pm |
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Epicownage
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:37 pm Posts: 4415
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icarium81 wrote: i would say 10% each day to a max of 100%, and upon the 12th day it auto abandons itself. make it an honestly worthwhile reward, and even at 10% a day.... level 7 base, ~60-70K output a day, the ranks of people holding and GETTING exotica, DONT CARE ABOUT 1%, or even 10%, at 55K for our base, thats less then 2 hours of production.. big whoop. and with an extra 10%, thats 1/5th of an hour.. or a few raids.. even at 100%, if the auto abandon option is used, its only a few days of a DECENT bonus. This seems to be a better idea.
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:41 pm |
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Bluecifer
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:53 pm Posts: 3756 Location: Aboard my floating fortress of ineptitude
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I prefer Darth's idea. Auto-abandon kinda defeats the purpose, and the 100% is a tad OP (but not much, I'll admit).
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:40 pm |
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Aiyah
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:02 am Posts: 1048
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I prefer Darth's as well.
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:44 pm |
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Boligon
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 6:47 pm Posts: 240
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Problem I would see with a large bonus (50 or 100%) is that not all legions have equal share distribution. I know some players have made the legion bases such that large contributors get massive shipments.
Not a direct -1 to the whole idea, just something to consider
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:32 am |
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varunjitsingh146
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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Bluecifer wrote: I prefer Darth's idea. Auto-abandon kinda defeats the purpose, and the 100% is a tad OP (but not much, I'll admit). agreed. i get the feeling some would just wait for the auto-abandon to kick in and then time their invasion and there may be less fighting. both ideas have there merits but i'm going to support Darth's version.
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:17 am |
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Tree7304
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:05 am Posts: 2794
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Defending beyond 8 hours is just for pride or maybe you just don't like the legion trying to steal it.
The current ability is useless though. Change it or get rid of it.
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:40 am |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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maybe add a second part to the auto abandon, where in someone from the same legion cant get it in the day after that.
and its meant to be a good reward, its the most contested planet out there, it isnt exactly a cake walk that you get to hold onto it like it was easy. your entire legion will be helping you take it and helping you guard it.
and the % payout is just BS, anyone in a top legion, ISNT getting a percent payout 7 days a week. or do you believe that maybe namalak will take exotica and fend off the entire galaxy alone for a week, with no sleep, and get a few extra arti points???
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:18 am |
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namalak
Joined: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:28 pm Posts: 764
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icarium81 wrote: and the % payout is just BS, anyone in a top legion, ISNT getting a percent payout 7 days a week. or do you believe that maybe namalak will take exotica and fend off the entire galaxy alone for a week, with no sleep, and get a few extra arti points??? Darn right I would! If I didn't work. Curse you, lack of independent wealth!
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:40 pm |
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webguydan
Joined: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:49 pm Posts: 2085
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Due to the updates, it would make more sense to upgrade the bonus to increase on an hourly basis rather than daily, and cap much sooner. We'll work on something.
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:20 pm |
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Fear
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:41 am Posts: 1069
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webguydan wrote: Due to the updates, it would make more sense to upgrade the bonus to increase on an hourly basis rather than daily, and cap much sooner. We'll work on something. With your proposal Dan does that mean anyone who holds on to it at least a hour gets a bonus of some sort? or has to be past the 8 to start? Even though you are changing to hourly which makes sense, please consider increasing it as well. thanks for the consideration
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:38 pm |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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i would suggest an hourly increase of 4 or 500 %, and after 12 hours it auto abandons, with a legion bonus still in the area of 10 to 20% daily. since its only able to be held onto for the entire duration once by each player, its not really over powered. if you think it is, then remove caches as loot droops, because each one is a free 800% boost for each one. although i haven't gained one in my last 20+ DARK kills.
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:06 pm |
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Fear
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:41 am Posts: 1069
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icarium81 wrote: i would suggest an hourly increase of 4 or 500 %, and after 12 hours it auto abandons, with a legion bonus still in the area of 10 to 20% daily. since its only able to be held onto for the entire duration once by each player, its not really over powered. if you think it is, then remove caches as loot droops, because each one is a free 800% boost for each one. although i haven't gained one in my last 20+ DARK kills. Icarium i'm sure you meant that in jest re caches, but please think before you post. Dan does that you'll have to drop the game as the most hated player in it will surely be constantly zeroed for... oh eternity... just the amount of prisoners who wouldnt get to go free and work for my ship cuz they like me, they really really like me, makes me sad and i'm not someone like Mento with a 100k plus aph factor....
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:39 pm |
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varunjitsingh146
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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icarium81 wrote: i would suggest an hourly increase of 4 or 500 %, and after 12 hours it auto abandons, with a legion bonus still in the area of 10 to 20% daily. since its only able to be held onto for the entire duration once by each player, its not really over powered. if you think it is, then remove caches as loot droops, because each one is a free 800% boost for each one. although i haven't gained one in my last 20+ DARK kills. Icarium autoabandon is something i wont support. if a legion like the Dysonians takes Exotica and a player from a weaker legion wants to take it they would wait for the auto abandon to kick in and time their invasion. Exotica is a planet thats supposed to be fought over and personally i dont like the thought of being able to just colonize it. Dan's already commented here so lets just see what he comes up with.
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:47 pm |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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ok, ill amend the auto abandon to only receiving the FULL bonus off the planet for 1 week (where it caps at base production 100%) you get a few days at 100% and then it goes down to 25% for the remainder of the time.. seem a bit better? but even still, that means the dysonians will probably take it and juggle it around and keep the bonus(because they'll have the planet the most I think)
I only threw in the auto abandon so one legion wouldnt just take it and keep it.. because if your getting an extra 100% base output for a long time, that IS op'd for sure.
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:13 pm |
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varunjitsingh146
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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icarium81 wrote: ok, ill amend the auto abandon to only receiving the FULL bonus off the planet for 1 week (where it caps at base production 100%) you get a few days at 100% and then it goes down to 25% for the remainder of the time.. seem a bit better? but even still, that means the dysonians will probably take it and juggle it around and keep the bonus(because they'll have the planet the most I think)
I only threw in the auto abandon so one legion wouldnt just take it and keep it.. because if your getting an extra 100% base output for a long time, that IS op'd for sure. i think even the Dysonians have a tough time holding Exotica. remember its just you and your legion against the entire galaxy and yes the idea does sound a bit better now.
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:17 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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I don't know what the fixation with the auto-abandon idea is. That pretty well defeats the purpose of one point of the last update. You really think that wouldn't be exploited by the less than honest legions?
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:23 pm |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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see the amendment darth... i dont always think of the BEST option the first time around lol. but i think the amendment is a suitable compromise
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:30 pm |
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