Increase energy base donation!!!!

Say to 4k or 5k. Or remove the limit it self.

(im sure those that donate energy into base know why)

Yes...bloody annoying, not sure why it's there in the first place.

Auto ranks ranked to 10 before leveling and then donated 5,000+ energy into the base.

Making the next trip 5000+ closer to the next level, they would level up and put another 5,000+ energy.

The limit was brought in to stop this.

Even with the 2,000 limit, it happens.

JF

So what?

Ya if the 2K limit was taken out I would just get to 1XP needed to rank and then put in the rest of my 25K+ energy and get 25K EXP extra on my next rank then go down to 1XP needed again with NPC's and put in the 37K+ energy I have extra to rank up again. And so on. Right now I can only get 1,999 XP lead on the next rank.

i think hes saying dan doesnt care for auto ranking (at least that seems to be a fairly widely accepted assumption)
and not having a limit further facilitates auto ranking.

EDIT: what mojo said.

We try to discourage facilitating auto-ranking, which this certainly does to a great extent. Thanks for pointing it out JF, I'll change to a -1 from myself.

Actually mojo, you are wrong. You can have a 2,782 xp lead if you are the right race + neural + rsl and more if you are donating to a lower level base.

That said, there are a lot of ways to make it work if Dan wanted it too. Here's a short list:

1) Max experience is 2000 even if you don't more.
2) Donation based experience needed to level up. (So if you needed 4k exp to level up, you could donate around 6k at one time).
3) Remove experience completely from base donations.

The problem is he doesn't want to do it. He'd rather keep the frustrating aspects of the game and then keep adding more frustrations with new upgrades (ie, read adding abilities NOT on the ability page or finally adding a way to extract artifact buildings from a planet, then adding a bunch of buildings you can't extract and so on).

Bases are design to a TEAM of players to work together to build a massive income for all of them.

A, if you remove the limit, auto rankers will abuse this loop hole.
B, The limit was in place to stop people going from level 1 base to level 5 base in one day.

If people can get a level 5 base producing 200,000+ AP per day or so, whats the point of having the team spirit.
There will be 10,000+ players in there own legions racking in 200,000 extra AP per day.

Dan doesn't like or want this. Neither do i or alot of people. so once again, the limit is fine how it is.

JF

On the topic of dan,

Dan TRIES hes hardest to PLEASE EVERYONE.
there will be some who dont like it, like you.
Some who will love it.

I accidently used a P flux, contacted him, and he returned it what was nice of him.
If he couldn't be assed to change the limit, then he wouldn't be assed to return my flux.

HE DOESN'T DO IT FOR A REASON!

You must understand this, The less he does, the more the players are happy.
It sounds weird but is true.

~JF~

Another thing:

Why fix something whats not broken?

JF

Cause in my eyes, it is broken. In your eyes it is not. Does that make either of us right, no, doesn't make either of us wrong either.

How is it broken, you can't donate any energy?
If thats the case, you need to contact dan or support over the issue.

The game is supposed to be fun. Donating energy to the base is not fun because of how many times you have to click; hence broken.

A, If your going to quote something, please quote all of it.

B, Are you thankful that you get 20-50k or more AP every day from the base?

That is your trill for putting energy in at 2,000 at a time. that is your reward.

JF

Do you know how minor 200K ap is for the people doing that much donating?
its 5 hours of my production and im not the highest AP/hour.
i couldnt care less about collecting from the base.

I have personally given 14,542,765 energy to our base. I don't know how much you have given but I don't think it is that much. (I may be wrong) I didn't mind one bit giving that much. Its easy to go fast as well. Just highlight the 2000 you give the first time hit Ctrl C to copy it then just keep opening the give energy button and hitting Ctrl V. to paste it back in. You can get going really fast this way. Just suck it up and take the extra time. I can give 40K energy in less then a min.

Scaling the energy donation is a fair compromise.

If you are donating to a level 7 base the 2k xp isn't gonna really make a difference in your ability to autorank.
Level 7 - 3000 energy limit
Level 8 - 4000 energy limit.

The primary concern with high or no limit is its usage in over-leveling.
So here is a compromise alternative: you will be able to donate 2000 OR 50% of exp required to level up, whichever is higher.
So if you are 20k exp away from lvl up, you can donate up to 10k energy. But if you are below 4k exp to lvl up, 2k is the limit.

That's as far as I'm willing to allow for increase in donation limit.
To be honest, I can't really see how bad it can be to donate energy. It's probably easier to donate a full bar than it is to get 2 red badges for a base scan. Even if you cube/tri like mad it shouldn't be that bad.
And frankly, using high donation for over-level is a VERY valid concern, so that must be kept in mind first and foremost.

I'd plus one it to just be as much energy as you want to donate .. max 2k exp donate 1k = 1k exp donate 2k = 2k exp donate 10k = 2k exp... then at least I wouldn't feel lik I was "wasting" energy if I had too much left over..