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Wolfy Minion
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:16 am Posts: 2737
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A reward for killing the cluster should include a second art that removes the effect. That was if you are stuck with it after the NPC dies you can remove it. Or save them for the next time one spawns.
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Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:38 am |
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Fear
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:41 am Posts: 1069
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maybe Dan can give us a cure for spaceherpes on the bt too? Oh wait i fix that myself :p
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Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:49 am |
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Plagueis
Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:37 am Posts: 854
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It'd be simpler if the engulfing swarm just disappeared after the npc was killed. I agree that players shouldn't be stuck with it for one hour after it's killed.
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Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:36 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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Plagueis wrote: It'd be simpler if the engulfing swarm just disappeared after the npc was killed. I agree that players shouldn't be stuck with it for one hour after it's killed. Why not? You still have Sha'din Overshock, Stryll Disruption, Dark Nullify, Inverse Warp Pulse, etc. even after the NPC is dead. You also can have KVT and Bane trap effects after the player that had them set is disabled. The Remote Intrusion base ability can still active after the base is disabled. The Engulfing Swarm is consistent with all other negative effects in that respect. This sounds to me like complaints because you guys aren't doing it smart, you're just mashing the button like angry monkeys.
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Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:50 pm |
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kirkeastment
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:24 pm Posts: 2810 Location: UK
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Darth Flagitious wrote: Plagueis wrote: It'd be simpler if the engulfing swarm just disappeared after the npc was killed. I agree that players shouldn't be stuck with it for one hour after it's killed. Why not? You still have Sha'din Overshock, Stryll Disruption, Dark Nullify, Inverse Warp Pulse, etc. even after the NPC is dead. You also can have KVT and Bane trap effects after the player that had them set is disabled. The Remote Intrusion base ability can still active after the base is disabled. The Engulfing Swarm is consistent with all other negative effects in that respect. This sounds to me like complaints because you guys aren't doing it smart, you're just mashing the button like angry monkeys. Except it can't be caged or nullified at all, all the other examples you gave can be. Plus the only way to nullify the effect, is no longer available once the NPC is killed.
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Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:55 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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Darth Flagitious wrote: This sounds to me like complaints because you guys aren't doing it smart, you're just mashing the button like angry monkeys.
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Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:56 pm |
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kirkeastment
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:24 pm Posts: 2810 Location: UK
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Darth Flagitious wrote: Darth Flagitious wrote: This sounds to me like complaints because you guys aren't doing it smart, you're just mashing the button like angry monkeys. Prey tell the smart way good sir... is it to wait till 1 hit left(as was done)... then use the purge effect button.. because that doesn't work does it, if you're hit by the debuff on the killing blow.
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Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:58 pm |
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Fear
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:41 am Posts: 1069
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kirkeastment wrote: Darth Flagitious wrote: Darth Flagitious wrote: This sounds to me like complaints because you guys aren't doing it smart, you're just mashing the button like angry monkeys. Prey tell the smart way good sir... is it to wait till 1 hit left(as was done)... then use the purge effect button.. because that doesn't work does it, if you're hit by the debuff on the killing blow. simple get the plus 900 guy you don't like in crew to be the last one to hit it in case swarming takes effect 
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Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:07 pm |
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biz387
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:29 am Posts: 312
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Fear wrote: simple get the plus 900 guy you don't like in crew to be the last one to hit it in case swarming takes effect  And you said you wanted me to kill them as a sign of respect!
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Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:13 pm |
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Annabell
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 7:33 pm Posts: 1988 Location: Aboard Blackwood Hall
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biz387 wrote: Fear wrote: simple get the plus 900 guy you don't like in crew to be the last one to hit it in case swarming takes effect  And you said you wanted me to kill them as a sign of respect! Literally laughed out loud. ^_^
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Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:17 pm |
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Wolfy Minion
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:16 am Posts: 2737
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biz387 wrote: Fear wrote: simple get the plus 900 guy you don't like in crew to be the last one to hit it in case swarming takes effect  And you said you wanted me to kill them as a sign of respect! he respects your gullibility Darth Flagitious wrote: Plagueis wrote: It'd be simpler if the engulfing swarm just disappeared after the npc was killed. I agree that players shouldn't be stuck with it for one hour after it's killed. Why not? You still have Sha'din Overshock, Stryll Disruption, Dark Nullify, Inverse Warp Pulse, etc. even after the NPC is dead. You also can have KVT and Bane trap effects after the player that had them set is disabled. The Remote Intrusion base ability can still active after the base is disabled. The Engulfing Swarm is consistent with all other negative effects in that respect. This sounds to me like complaints because you guys aren't doing it smart, you're just mashing the button like angry monkeys. Are you suggesting that there should be absolutely no way to remove it other than wait for it to wear off and the NPC? All debuffs have a way to remove them instantly whenever. My suggestion is a just a back-up for the repeatable one and even if the user gets 1 free pass on the debuff on the next one, the chance of the NPC not debuffing you once is very low.
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Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:32 pm |
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John Falls
Joined: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:50 pm Posts: 1010
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Like darth, yes this is a tactical NPC
But also i think there should be a cure. If its team work how about another player in the same legion as to spend 50 energy + (something else). to remove the effect, Can not be removed if the NPC is active.
Or a new NCP that only respawns when you have a debuff on you, 100% possiblity. It will remove your Debuff in exchange for something else.
Energy, EM, CTP, Artifacts.
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Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:59 pm |
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Plagueis
Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:37 am Posts: 854
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How about it always drops a swarm disbursement capsule for everyone upon being disabled? The artifact would require 250 energy to use, remove the swarm from your ship, and would expire (thus disappear from your cargo) after an hour. That way there's still a way to remove it after it's killed, but you can't stockpile them. It would be nice to have an artifact like this and be able to stockpile it, but it would to some extent undermine the engulfing swarm ability. It's there for a reason (to give us a challenge), but we don't want to be stuck with the debuff for an hour.
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Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:12 pm |
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Wolfy Minion
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:16 am Posts: 2737
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Plagueis wrote: How about it always drops a swarm disbursement capsule for everyone upon being disabled? The artifact would require 250 energy to use, remove the swarm from your ship, and would expire (thus disappear from your cargo) after an hour. That way there's still a way to remove it after it's killed, but you can't stockpile them. It would be nice to have an artifact like this and be able to stockpile it, but it would to some extent undermine the engulfing swarm ability. It's there for a reason (to give us a challenge), but we don't want to be stuck with the debuff for an hour. So my idea with a time limit, works for me. Or even still the bugger can remain on the alerters bt for an hour or until the ability is used once more (much less desired solution)
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Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:37 pm |
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