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Author:  stuart [ Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:44 am ]
Post subject:  leaders able to verify legion mate's base research levels
When dealing with players not contributing to upgrading your base, it would be nice for the leaders to be able to look up where members of the legion are with regards to base research and not simply take their word for it.

I'm thinking not showing which level of research they have researched but also how far they are along the next level.

when you have a base evenly distributing artifacts to all players it'll give a tool to the leaders to better understand what is going on with certain team members that may need some "encouragement".
Author:  Preliator Xzien [ Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: leaders able to verify legion mate's base research levels
Did we move to North Korea when I wasn't looking? Are you that power hungry where you need to control what legion members do in every way, shape or form?
Author:  Devastation [ Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: leaders able to verify legion mate's base research levels
stuart wrote:
When dealing with players not contributing to upgrading your base, it would be nice for the leaders to be able to look up where members of the legion are with regards to base research and not simply take their word for it.

I'm thinking not showing which level of research they have researched but also how far they are along the next level.

when you have a base evenly distributing artifacts to all players it'll give a tool to the leaders to better understand what is going on with certain team members that may need some "encouragement".

If you do not trust their word, they should not be in your legion.
Author:  varunjitsingh146 [ Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: leaders able to verify legion mate's base research levels
No
Author:  KJReed [ Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: leaders able to verify legion mate's base research levels
XxDarthDexterxX wrote:
stuart wrote:
When dealing with players not contributing to upgrading your base, it would be nice for the leaders to be able to look up where members of the legion are with regards to base research and not simply take their word for it.

I'm thinking not showing which level of research they have researched but also how far they are along the next level.

when you have a base evenly distributing artifacts to all players it'll give a tool to the leaders to better understand what is going on with certain team members that may need some "encouragement".

If you do not trust their word, they should not be in your legion.

Move it to percent for a day or two a week.
Get rid of the ones that are now suddenly able to contribute.
Author:  stuart [ Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: leaders able to verify legion mate's base research levels
Preliator Xzien wrote:
Did we move to North Korea when I wasn't looking? Are you that power hungry where you need to control what legion members do in every way, shape or form?


Detecting an ID 10 T error above in that quote...

Are you that much of a drama queen making that analogy??? aiya.......

just trying to come up with ideas on how to deal with people not contributing to the base without blindly kicking users without being 100% sure what is going on.

if I was that power hungry, they'd have been kicked already....
Author:  KJReed [ Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: leaders able to verify legion mate's base research levels
stuart wrote:

just trying to come up with ideas on how to deal with people not contributing to the base without blindly kicking users without being 100% sure what is going on.


KJReed wrote:
Move it to percent for a day or two a week.
Get rid of the ones that are now suddenly able to contribute.


i was serious.
that should work.
maybe ask whos getting close a week before maybe?
so in case the timing is right accidents dont happen.
Author:  Preliator Xzien [ Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: leaders able to verify legion mate's base research levels
stuart wrote:
Detecting an ID 10 T error above in that quote...

False, it's perfectly valid and has no errors.
stuart wrote:
Are you that much of a drama queen making that analogy??? aiya.......

The analogy was to point out that leaders should not be dictators, which this idea was aimed towards. Spying on your own legionmates? Really?
stuart wrote:
just trying to come up with ideas on how to deal with people not contributing to the base without blindly kicking users without being 100% sure what is going on..

Even if this idea was used, you still do not know the full extent to someone's reasons for not contributing. Upkeep, missions, planets, RL issues, etc. are all deciding factors into someone contributing and not contributing. Research levels only decide whether they can or cannot, not if they are able at that time.
stuart wrote:
if I was that power hungry, they'd have been kicked already....

True, that's what the simpleminded power hungry person would do, but controlling your legion's actions regardless of their situation is what a smart dictator would do.


You want people to contribute? Rewards, competitions, percentage payout (as KJ said before) or even giving people research planets so they can unlock the base research faster will get people to contribute.
Author:  Consigliere [ Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: leaders able to verify legion mate's base research levels
KJReed wrote:
Move it to percent for a day or two a week.
Get rid of the ones that are now suddenly able to contribute.


If you're that worried about it, a couple days of % will get donations rolling in. What you do with people at that point is up to you, but booting them right after they contribute won't really encourage the next guy to donate.
Author:  Darth Flagitious [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: leaders able to verify legion mate's base research levels
Preliator Xzien wrote:
stuart wrote:
just trying to come up with ideas on how to deal with people not contributing to the base without blindly kicking users without being 100% sure what is going on..

Even if this idea was used, you still do not know the full extent to someone's reasons for not contributing. Upkeep, missions, planets, RL issues, etc. are all deciding factors into someone contributing and not contributing. Research levels only decide whether they can or cannot, not if they are able at that time.


Basically the same argument I made against a legion-enforced tax to provide upkeep moneys for the base. No leader can possibly know the financial (and in this case, the scientific) situation of each and every member in their legion. Nor should they. What I spend my research or credits on is MY business only.

Also, keep in mind that adding stuff to level up a base is just one small part of being a good legion member. Leaders had to evaluate members on many other things before bases were even added. There is no reason why those things should just be ignored simply because there's a tally for base contributions.
Author:  icarium81 [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: leaders able to verify legion mate's base research levels
Ive gifted a few members with rank increases for GP purchases, but 95% of the rank increases are due to playstyle, following our minimally short list of rules, and AIDING THEIR LEGION.
that doesnt have to mean upgrading the base (which most simply cant do), it means helping others out when they neex artifact X, or planet X, or ship advice/ what to focus on.
If you build your legion to work WITH you, rather then FOR you, youll have a much happier legion.
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